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03-09-2012, 09:41 PM
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Remember when everyone was saying the past few months, we need to open up the system a little? Now, we are scoring...the team is making more mistakes. We are seeing that Quick is much better behind a tighter defensive system. It's good to see what goalie he projects to be in a more offensive system.
Total BS.

The Kings were terrible in their own zone tonight. The Kings aren't sacrificing defense to score the goals they've been getting. Quick gave up goals because we left players wide open and let them make cross ice passes.

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03-09-2012, 09:47 PM
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Ok, you guys are right! The defense is sucking and Quick isn't looking too sharp.

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03-09-2012, 09:47 PM
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Wasted. Season.
The losing culture just keeps rolling along.

Doughty: useless (has he EVER shut down an opposing player when the game was on the line? Hey Drew! that's what franchise Dmen do - on a regular basis!!)

Richards: useless (no further explanation needed)

Kopitar: useless (3 on 2 with the puck, and you can't make a pass or take a shot - wtf!?)

King: has outscored Richards over the last 30 games, and he hasn't even PLAYED 30 games.

Hey DL, this is sooo 6 years ago...

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03-09-2012, 09:47 PM
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Can't wait to see if Sutter calls out his canadian boys Richards and DD.

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03-09-2012, 09:48 PM
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One step closer to showing Disease Lombardi the door.

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Total BS.

The Kings were terrible in their own zone tonight. The Kings aren't sacrificing defense to score the goals they've been getting. Quick gave up goals because we left players wide open and let them make cross ice passes.
Yup Quick got hung out to dry on all of those Goals. You can make an argument he should have had that fourth one.

But when your D allows wide open cross ice passes, to the open side of the net for easy tap ins.

Well you get what you had tonight 4 goals on 15 shots.

Quick and the D go hand in hand. They both need to be on thier game. Tonight neither was very good.


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03-09-2012, 09:48 PM
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Richards quotes:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/03/09...uotes-march-9/

At least he's taking personal responsibility for his own shortcomings.

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03-09-2012, 09:51 PM
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Lot of Doughty hate going around as well. I wonder if people feel Lombardi traded the wrong defenseman to CLB?
Discarding three seasons of evidence? Yeaaah, no.

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03-09-2012, 09:52 PM
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Kings will be in 10th place soon.

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So, is one of the graphically talented contributors to the forum going to make a meme with "Spends to the cap" on top, and "Still misses the playoffs" on the bottom? It's about time...

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03-09-2012, 09:53 PM
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Richards quotes:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/03/09...uotes-march-9/

At least he's taking personal responsibility for his own shortcomings.
Does that surprise you?

He ****ed up. Of course he's going to man up to it.

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After Detroit's tiebreaking goal:
I felt the same, good one. But to be honest, when Detroit tied, I already knew we were in trouble. I've watched too many of their games. And Kings games.

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03-09-2012, 09:54 PM
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Doughty: useless (has he EVER shut down an opposing player when the game was on the line?
Yes, he has...how many times do the Kings lose a one goal lead? He's usually out there.

Anger about one game is causing people to dismiss entire careers.

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Kings will be in 10th place soon.
If by "soon", you mean "after one more period of the Calgary/Winnipeg game tonight", then yes -- Flames have the ROW tiebreaker on the Kings (28-27, assuming a non SO win tonight), and lead the Jets 4-2 at the 2nd intermission. Once that goes final, then yes, the Kings will be in 10th and sliding.

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03-09-2012, 09:58 PM
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What's the kings record with Sutter now?

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Richards quotes:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/03/09...uotes-march-9/

At least he's taking personal responsibility for his own shortcomings.
He sounds just like Brown and Kopitar. They say the "right things" all the time, but it's just a couple of morons mimicking the same crap everyone says. BORING USELESS WEAK COWARDLY SPINELESS pablum. The guys on this team should just keep their mouths shut and cut their losses. Losers.

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03-09-2012, 09:59 PM
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Is it too early to start a draft thread? Looks like we'll be picking in the top 14. At this point they should keep sucking to get us into the top 10.

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Anger about one game is causing people to dismiss entire careers.
While I agree that there is over-reaction going on tonight, you have to understand that the frustration isn't just about one game. It's the pattern that's been playing out this entire season, whether it be with TM at the helm, with Stevens at the helm, or with DS at the helm -- and no matter what personnel are on the ice.

The whole season can be summed up in one word, which is going to be the reason this team is going to finish on the outside looking in:

Inconsistency.

And that inconsistency is light-years more infuriating than just watching a team who is outclassed in talent on the ice night after night after night -- at least then the losses are expected and the wins have that sweet underdog flavor. But this season, we never know which Kings team is going to show up -- which versions of the players are going to show up, or just not bother to show up night in and night out. That's a toxic environment -- so it's completely understandable that people are reacting... but don't dismiss the reactions as "to just one game". It's much more than that -- it's the "anger" stage of grieving about the chances we thought this team had this year.


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03-09-2012, 10:00 PM
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Does that surprise you?

He ****ed up. Of course he's going to man up to it.
Yeah but I'm so used to the guys saying "we need to do this and we can't allow that" that I'm actually surprised when someone on this team actually points to himself.

Not that it excuses the abominable hockey Richards has shown these past two games.

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03-09-2012, 10:01 PM
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Players don't have faith in the system.

When you don't believe in something, it's hard to get energized to go out and do it.
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I don't either, but after the comments from JJ, I have to believe it's playing a pretty significant role in the troubles of the team.
Well then this team has some serious team issues. It has nothing to do with the system. Clear the ******* puck. That has nothing to do with faith in the system. Don't lose a 1-on-1 battle in front of the net. That has zero to do with the system. I don't give a damn if the players like it. I know they live in a fantasy world where they make millions for playing a game, but that's not how it works. Execute the play. Play with some determination.

If Johnson hated it here so much, then don't sign a long contract extension. If Doughty doesn't like it, then demand a trade instead of holding out. Richards never wanted to come here to begin with, so whatever. If Kopitar can't deal with it, then don't take the money. He could easily get it somewhere else since he's so good.

While the players are trapped here, they might as well do their jobs. Apparently they'd rather not though. They're too good for that. Whatever.

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03-09-2012, 10:04 PM
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What's the kings record with Sutter now?
Under Sutter: 16-11-8 (.571 hockey)
Under TM: 13-12-4 (.517 hockey)
Under Stevens: 2-2 (.500 hockey)

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Better be careful. The first two will kick your ass.
Why do you even pretend to root for the Kings as a second team? You show up to make Lombardi jibes and/or after bad losses. Terrible.

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While I agree that there is over-reaction going on tonight, you have to understand that the frustration isn't just about one game. It's the pattern that's been playing out this entire season, whether it be with TM at the helm, with Stevens at the help, or with DS at the helm -- and no matter what personnel are on the ice.
As a Kings fan, I hear you. I understand frustration.

I get mad at a player for this or that play, but don't think all these players should be scratched. And I also think the Kings need a philosophical overhaul more than they do a new set of players.

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03-09-2012, 10:06 PM
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03-09-2012, 10:09 PM
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I am not saying I was against the Johnson for Carter swap. It needed to be made because of the failures of Dean at the draft table for his entire tenure here. Dean hasn't been able to develop even a single scoring forward. The only things I didn't like about the trade were it sent a terrible message to FA's both external and internal about LA, the tattoo crap from Dumbo, it was all BS just as the "culture" and "right fit" proved to be lame cliches from Dumbo. But despite all the culture crap, Dean's downfall will be the draft table. Particularly in the first round, where most teams elite talent comes from.

Jonathan Bernier - Verdict still out, current backup goaltender
Trevor Lewis - Not a total bust but a massive disappointment. 4th liner
Thomas Hickey - Yet to play an NHL game. Massive disappointment
Drew Doughty - Not a good fit in this system, huge talent will be fine with new regime.
Colten Teubert - One of the worst picks in Kings history. Traded
Brayden Schenn - Traded
Derek Forbort - Jury is still out, not anything close to a dominant NCAA d-man

Now you add in traded first round picks in 2011 and 2013. Boy has Dean mangled the first round.

I almost feel bad for Dumbo, they say US Presidents age poorly while in office, just look how Dean looked at the 2006 draft and how beaten and old he looked after he was interviewed after the Carter trade.

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Just finished the game..WOW! Total f-up in coverage during all 4 goals.That play that richards made giving the puck back to Scuds, instead of going forward just blew. They should have locked this game down when we went up 3-2, hell even at 3-3 they should have gotten a point if the defense didnt have their heads up their *****. Back breaking loss for sure.

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