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RW Teemu Pulkkinen (2010, 111th overall, Detroit) II

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03-11-2012, 06:42 AM
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Is it hard to understand that I was speaking about players who are SMALL AND SLOW???? not one or the other but both. You seriously thought I didnt know there was small players in the NHL before? Now list me 5 players in the NHL who were at least relatively good who were both small and slow.
No i didn't know, i thought that you thought all of them are 6'5 250lbs.

MOD I did mention that Pulkkinen added lowerbody muscle, now he just needs world class skating coach to transform all the power from hes core and lower body to hes skating, like he will stay that slow rest of hes life.

Also T. Ennis ain't exceptional skater for a guy hes size( Pulkkinen does weight roughly 50 lbs more than he does ), heck i was better skater than he is when i weighted 150lbs so yeah T. Ennis is kinda small and slow from my point of view.


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03-11-2012, 07:58 AM
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Pulkkinen is weak on his skates and he has trouble keeping up the momentum in traffic. Also, I donít think his stickhandling ability is comparable to some of the star players of his size. His offensive instincts and slap shot are NHL calibre, but itís doubtful whether thatíll be enough or not. Many of the smallish NHL forwards are able to change direction quickly and dangle their way out of trouble. They challenge opponents in one-on-one situations and during board battles with their agility, quickness and ability to handle the puck in close quarters. Pulkkinen is just average in these areas. Plus, I donít think his defensive game has improved that much, heís still not a player you want to see out there when your team is killing a penalty or defending a lead late in the 3rd.

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03-11-2012, 08:14 AM
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Plus, I donít think his defensive game has improved that much, heís still not a player you want to see out there when your team is killing a penalty or defending a lead late in the 3rd.
I think this has a lot to do with his skating, because he can't keep up with opposition. He has started to play a bit more physical and backchecks better than last season, though.

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03-11-2012, 08:45 AM
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Pulkkinen is weak on his skates and he has trouble keeping up the momentum in traffic. Also, I donít think his stickhandling ability is comparable to some of the star players of his size. His offensive instincts and slap shot are NHL calibre, but itís doubtful whether thatíll be enough or not. Many of the smallish NHL forwards are able to change direction quickly and dangle their way out of trouble. They challenge opponents in one-on-one situations and during board battles with their agility, quickness and ability to handle the puck in close quarters. Pulkkinen is just average in these areas. Plus, I donít think his defensive game has improved that much, heís still not a player you want to see out there when your team is killing a penalty or defending a lead late in the 3rd.
I'd be willing to put this as a lack of confidence issue. When he played his first SM-liiga games (when Aravista was head coach), he was dekeing opposing players more eagerly. I thinks there's a clip from a game against HIFK from that time on Youtube where he deked two HIFK players to get in front of the goal but was in a poor angle to score from his backhand. Then he probably succumbed to the "safety first" attitude among the rest of the team. The attitude that still reigns in the team (and coaching) and continues to burden them.

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03-13-2012, 05:44 PM
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i still think that pulkkinen was a steal draft. the kid is on right organization in nhl. red wings will give him time to progress in AHL.

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03-14-2012, 02:55 PM
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Heard that he will start army this summer can anyone confirm this ? I thought he was last year same time as Granlund, Koivu and Vatanen.

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03-14-2012, 03:00 PM
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Heard that he will start army this summer can anyone confirm this ? I thought he was last year same time as Granlund, Koivu and Vatanen.
I Googled "Teemu Pulkkinen asepalvelus" and found nothing.

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Heard that he will start army this summer can anyone confirm this ? I thought he was last year same time as Granlund, Koivu and Vatanen.
I believe this is true, because he wasn't there last year (which was a bit strange imo). I guess this basically means he'll stay with Jokerit for next season.

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I believe this is true, because he wasn't there last year (which was a bit strange imo). I guess this basically means he'll stay with Jokerit for next season.
I thought that was a given that he's going to stay with Jokerit for one more year?

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I thought that was a given that he's going to stay with Jokerit for one more year?
Basically it is but the Wings are going to sign him during the summer so theoretically he could leave.

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03-22-2012, 08:59 AM
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Pulkkinen is a healthy scratch for the Jokerit play-off team. He was sent to the minors.

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Pulkkinen is a healthy scratch for the Jokerit play-off team. He was sent to the minors.
Old news.

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Pulkkinen is now one year away from being FEL'er.

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Pulkkinen is now one year away from being FEL'er.
If I read right, he's just seeing if he could play with his injury? I can't remember. I think I read something like that in the DRW prospect thread.

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If I read right, he's just seeing if he could play with his injury? I can't remember. I think I read something like that in the DRW prospect thread.
Those "in the know" are pretty adamant he's been playing with a leg injury for some time "with the help of a needle", though Pulkkinen himself denies it. it would explain why his skating has looked so difficult since February.

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03-22-2012, 04:09 PM
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It's blatantly obvious that he's not physically 100% - hasn't been in a while. I'm keeping the faith that next year he can rise to Granlund's or Vatanen's level. Healthy summer under Valtonen's surveillance can do wonders. And he doesn't have to play at U20 level anymore, so he can actually have rest during the season.

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Bust as I have always said.
He's not a bust. He still has plenty of time to try to make the NHL. I hate when people call players "busts" 2 years(?) after their draft year. He was taken late as well, so it's not like he was a first rounder.

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03-23-2012, 01:44 AM
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Pulkkinen has always been bit overrated in Finland. He posses unbelievable shot for a u20-player, but lacks both instinct and passion to score. People lamed his injuries for slipping to 4th round and now outside of Jokerit's roster. Same time both Granlund and Vatanen have been hampared by injuries, too. But they are FEL's absolute elite while Pulkkinen is - face the facts - healthy scratch

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03-23-2012, 02:04 AM
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Pulkkinen is - face the facts - his teams second in points, while Vatanen is - face the facts - only third. Granlund leads his team in scoring, but - face the facts - only by three points. Pulkkinen is - face the facts - one of the best finnish prospects.

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03-23-2012, 06:55 AM
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Difference between Pulkkinen and Granlund&Vatanen is that he's not even close as a complete player like the two others. He's still got a long way to go in terms of skating and if he's able to develop that, it will help him round out the other areas of his game. If he want's to ever make the NHL, it will be through lots of hard (and smart) work.

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03-23-2012, 10:21 AM
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So he is bust now? He is only 20 years old, 94 points in 2 seasons is pretty good. He is just having bad season.

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So he is bust now? He is only 20 years old, 94 points in 2 seasons is pretty good. He is just having bad season.
Yes, he's a bust now. Please move to Teršvšinen thread

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So he is bust now? He is only 20 years old, 94 points in 2 seasons is pretty good. He is just having bad season.
It's not about what he is or isn't doing in Finland, it's how he projects to do in the NHL, and that is what has everyone worried

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It's not about what he is or isn't doing in Finland, it's how he projects to do in the NHL, and that is what has everyone worried
as long as he plays well for finland in international tournaments when selected thats good enough for me

playing in the nhl would be a great thing for him

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It's a different league then it was when Brett Hull broke in for sure- but if you're going to have one thing you do better than pretty much anybody else, having a deadly cannon of a shot still might be the best thing to have. Next season will be huge for Pulkkinen no doubt though. Any chance he comes over to play in the AHL?

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