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ATD 2012 - Draft Thread VIII

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ATD 2012 - Draft Thread VII

ATD 2012 !!!

Draft completed

1). The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
  • 12 hour clock for the first two rounds, (sending a shortlist to another GM highly encouraged here)
  • then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
  • then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
  • then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
  • then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25
One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. This is at the discretion of the trade committee.
  • Trading while on the clock is discouraged and will be penalized like a missed deadline, so if you do it, you better be sure that's what you want.
  • There is no limit to the number of trades you can make.
4). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a lowering in the standings because we would also be ranking our own teams in our own divisions (e.g., most teams will rank their own team 1st in their own division; if a team doesn't vote they loose out on a 1st place vote opportunity and hence their team's ranking will be lower than it could have been). All teams make the playoffs. 4th & 5th seeds play a 2-game series to narrow the field to 32.

5). REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFF VOTING TO BE A SET RESPONSIBILITY.

6). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

DRAFT LIST:

Round 1

1. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Bobby Orr, D
2. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Wayne Gretzky, C
3. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Gordie Howe, RW
4. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Mario Lemieux, C
5. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Doug Harvey, D
6. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Jean Beliveau, C
7. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Eddie Shore, D
8. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Raymond Bourque, D
9. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bobby Hull, LW
10. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Denis Potvin, D
11. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Nicklas Lidström, D
12. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Maurice Richard, RW
13. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Stan Mikita, C
14. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Dominik Hasek, G
15. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Bryan Trottier, C
16. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Bobby Clarke, C
17. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Terry Sawchuk, G
18. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Leonard ''Red'' Kelly, D/C
19. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Howie Morenz, C
20. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Guy Lafleur, RW
21. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Patrick Roy, G
22. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jacques Plante, G
23. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Larry Robinson, D
24. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Jaromir Jagr, RW
25. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Slava Fetisov, D
26. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Phil Esposito, C
27. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Mike Bossy, RW
28. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Mark Messier, C/LW
29. Stoneberg & raleh -Halifax Mooseheads - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
30. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Chris Chelios, D
31. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Ted Lindsay, LW
32. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Joe Sakic, C

Round 2

33. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Paul Coffey, D
34. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils -Brad Park, D
35. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Steve Yzerman, C
36. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Pierre Pilote, D
37. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Glenn Hall, G
38. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Newsy Lalonde, C
39. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
40. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Milt Schmidt, C
41. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montreal - Frank Nighbor, C/LW
42. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ken Dryden, G
43. Dwight - West Island Lions - Tim Horton, D
44. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Syl Apps Sr, C
45. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - King Clancy, D
46. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Cook, RW
47. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Sprague Cleghorn, D
48. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Scott Stevens, D
49. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Earl Seibert, D
50. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Chris Pronger, D
51. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Frank Boucher, C
52. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Al MacInnis, D
53. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Dit Clapper, D/RW
54. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Martin Brodeur, G
55. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Charlie Conacher, RW
56. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Max Bentley, C
57. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Frank Mahovlich, LW
58. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Joe Malone, C
59. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Ted Kennedy, C
60. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Bill Gadsby, D
61. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Sergei Makarov, RW
62. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Borje Salming, D
63. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Jari Kurri, RW
64. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Bernie "Boom Boom" Geoffrion, RW

Round 3

65. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Henri Richard, C
66. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Brian Leetch, D
67. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Dickie Moore, LW
68. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Guy Lapointe, D
69. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Clint Benedict, G
70. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Boris Mikhailov, RW
71. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vladislav Tretiak, G
72. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Valeri Vasiliev, D
73. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Turk Broda, G
74. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Andy Bathgate, RW
75. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Peter Forsberg, C
76. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Mark Howe, D
77. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Sergei Fedorov, C
78. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Quackenbush, D
79. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Anatoli Firsov, LW
80. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montreal - Cy Denneny, LW
81. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
82. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Aurel Joliat, LW
83. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Rod Langway, D
84. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Norm Ullman, C
85. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Serge Savard, D
86. Dwight - West Island Lions - Elmer Lach, C
87. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Marcel Dionne, C
88. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Dave Keon, C
89. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Doug Gilmour, C
90. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Zdeno Chara, D
91. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Gilbert Perreault, C
92. tony d - Garnish Cougars - JC Tremblay, D
93. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Doug Bentley, LW/C
94. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Sid Abel, C/LW
95. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Teemu Selanne, RW
96. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Brett Hull, RW

Round 4

97. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Johnny Bucyk, LW
98. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jack Stewart, D
99. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Alexander Ovechkin, LW
100. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Eddie Gerard, D/LW
101. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
102. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Scott Niedermayer, D
103. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Johnny Bower, G
104. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Harvey "Busher" Jackson, LW
105. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Hooley Smith, C/RW
106. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bill Cowley, C (later traded to Kimberley Dynamiters)
107. Dwight - West Island Lions - Toe Blake, LW
108. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Jarome Iginla, RW
109. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Peter Stastny, C
110. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
111. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Frank Brimsek, G
112. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Brendan Shanahan, LW
113. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Bernie Parent, G
114. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Pavel Bure, RW
115. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Sidney Crosby, C
116. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Ron Francis, C
117. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Alexei Kasatonov, D
118. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Nels Stewart, C/LW
119. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Jacques Laperriere, D
120. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Cam Neely, RW
121. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ching Johnson, D
122. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Roy Conacher, LW
123. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Emile ''Butch'' Bouchard, D
124. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Adam Oates, C
125. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Marcel Pronovost, D
126. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Ebbie Goodfellow, C/D
127. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Ernie ''Moose'' Johnson, D
128. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Eric Lindros, C

Round 5

129. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Rob Blake, D
130. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Georges ''Buck'' Boucher, D
131. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Lionel Conacher, D (later traded to Winnipeg)
132. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Michel Goulet, LW
133. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Mickey Mackay, C
134. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bill Durnan, G
135. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Bill Barber, LW (later traded to Kenora)
136. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Igor Larionov, C (later traded to Vancouver Millionaires)
137. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Carl Brewer, D
138. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Jean Ratelle, C
139. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Larry Murphy, D
140. Stoneberg & raleh - Babe Siebert, D/LW
141. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Syd Howe, LW/C
142. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Jan Suchy, D
143. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Punch Broadbent, RW
144. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Dale Hawerchuk, C
145. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Pavel Datsyuk, C
146. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Ed Belfour, G
147. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Sylvio Mantha, D
148. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Chuck Gardiner, G
149. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Bryan Hextall Sr, RW
150. Dwight - West Island Lions - Doug Wilson, D
151. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Bert Olmstead, LW
152. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Alexander Ragulin, D
153. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vladimir Petrov, C
154. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Tommy Phillips, LW
155. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Bob Gainey, LW
156. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Reg Noble, C/LW/D
157. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Denis Savard, C
158. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Clark Gillies, LW
159. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Hod Stuart, D
160. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Marty Barry, C

Round 6

161. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Art Coulter, D
162. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Lanny McDonald, RW
163. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Fern Flaman, D
164. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Ken Reardon, D
165. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Rick Middleton, RW
166. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Harry Cameron, D
167. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Harvey Pulford, D
168. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Harry Howell, D
169. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Bill White, D
170. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Joe Primeau, C
171. Dwight - West Island Lions - Vaclav Nedomansky, RW
172. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Hap Day, D
173. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Lester Patrick, D
174. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Woody Dumart, LW
175. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires Tom Johnson, D
176. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Luc Robitaille, LW
177. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Frantisek Pospisil, D
178. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Sergei Zubov, D
179. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Didier Pitre, RW
180. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Mike Modano, C
181. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Sweeney Schriner, LW
182. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Glenn Anderson, RW
183. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Martin St. Louis, RW
184. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Darryl Sittler, C
185. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Allan Stanley, D
186. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Red Horner, D
187. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Paul Kariya, LW
188. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Jacques Lemaire, C
189. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Joe Thornton, C
190. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Babe Dye, RW
191. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Frank Foyston, F (later traded to Rogle BK for pick 203)
192. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - John Leclair, LW

Round 7

193. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Billy Smith, G
194. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Pat Lafontaine, C
195. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Jiri Holecek, G
196. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Pat Stapleton, D
197. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Vladimir Martinec, RW
198. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Rod Gilbert, RW
199. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Ace Bailey, RW
200. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Jimmy Thomson, D
201. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scotty Bowman, coach
202. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Steve Shutt, LW
203. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Tiny Thompson, G
204. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
205. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Herb Gardiner, D
206. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Elmer Vasko, D
207. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Evgeni Malkin, C
208. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Mark Recchi, RW
209. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Brad McCrimmon, D
210. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Eric Desjardins, D
211. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Art Ross, D
212. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW
213. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Claude Provost, RW
214. Dwight - West Island Lions - Brian Propp, LW
215. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Frank Fredrickson, C
216. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Lionel Hitchman, D
217. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Cy Wentworth, D
218. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Bob Baun, D

219. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Tony Esposito, G
220. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Mats Sundin, C
221. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Bun Cook, LW
222. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Gary Suter, D
223. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Georges Vezina, G
224. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Si Griffis, D

Round 8

225. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Grant Fuhr, G
226. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Russell Bowie, C
227. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Tim Kerr, RW
228. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Vladimir Krutov, LW
229. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Sergei Gonchar, D
230. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
231. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Toe Blake, coach
232. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Gordie Drillon, RW
233. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Gus Mortson, D
234. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Markus Naslund, LW
235. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jean-Guy Talbot, D
236. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Bernie Morris, C/RW
237. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Alex Yakushev, LW
238. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C/LW (later traded to Vancouver Millionaires)
239. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Rick Martin, LW
240. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
241. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Marian Hossa, RW
242. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Esa Tikkanen, LW
243. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Paul Thompson, LW
244. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Duke Keats, C
245. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Patrick Elias, LW
246. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Wayne Cashman, LW
247. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Doug Mohns, D/LW
248. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Nikolai Sologubov, D
249. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Guy Carbonneau, C
250. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Frank McGee, C
251. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Mike Grant, D
252. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Derian Hatcher, D
253. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Kevin Stevens, LW
254. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - John Tonelli, LW
255. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Baldy Northcott, LW
256. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Babe Pratt, D

Round 9

257. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Gary Roberts, LW
258. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Rod Brind'Amour, C/LW
259. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Craig Ramsay, LW
260. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Roy Worters, G
261. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Cecil Dillon, RW
262. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Theoren Fleury, RW
263. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Steve Larmer, RW
264. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Ott Heller, D
265. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Doug Jarvis, C
266. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - George Armstrong, RW
267. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Alf Smith, LW
268. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Hugh Lehman, G
269. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Dean Prentice, LW
270. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Gump Worsley, G
271. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Flash Hollett, D
272. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - James Neilson, D
273. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Sid Smith, LW
274. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Ilya Kovalchuk, LW
275. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Jack Walker, LW
276. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Bernie Federko, C
277. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans -Tommy Dunderdale, C
278. Dwight - West Island Lions - Phil Watson, C/RW
279. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
280. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Joe Hall, D
281. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Adam Foote, D
282. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Mike Ramsey, D
283. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Dick Duff, LW
284. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Phil Housley, D
285. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Kevin Lowe, D
286. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Henrik Sedin, C
287. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Rick MacLeish, C
288. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Bill Mosienko, RW

Round 10

289. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Jere Lehtinen, LW/RW
290. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jack Crawford, D
291. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Daniel Sedin, LW
292. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Ken Hodge, RW
293. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bob Goldham, D
294. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Mike Gartner, RW
295. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Walt Tkaczuk, C
296. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bobby Bauer, RW (later traded to Kimberley Dynamiters)
297. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Ralph Backstrom, C
298. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ted Green, D
299. Dwight - West Island Lions - Ed Westfall, RW
300. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Bert Corbeau, D (later traded to Hartford Whalers)
301. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Jim Schoenfeld, D
302. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Rick Tocchet, RW
303. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Leo Boivin, D
304. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Pit Lepine, C
305. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - "Bullet" Joe Simpson, D
306. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Vitaly Davydov, D
307. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Frank Patrick, D
308. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Bob Pulford, C/LW
309. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Marty Pavelich, LW
310. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Jimmy Watson, D
311. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Herbie Lewis, LW
312. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Tod Sloan, C/RW
313. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Danny Gare, RW
314. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Peter Bondra, RW
315. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dino Ciccarelli, RW
316. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Keith Tkachuk, LW
317. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Joe Mullen, RW
318. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Helmut Balderis, RW
319. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Alexander Mogilny, RW
320. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Larry Aurie, RW

Round 11

321. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Nick Metz, LW
322. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Tony Leswick, LW/RW
323. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Leo Reise, Jr, D
324. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Pat Egan, D (later traded to Seattle Metropolitans)
325. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Jeremy Roenick, C
326. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Ed Litzenberger, C/RW
327. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Terry Harper, D
328. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Red Dutton, D
329. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brian Rafalski, D
330. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Randy Carlyle, D
331. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Mike Peca, C
332. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Al Arbour, Coach
333. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - George Hainsworth, G
334. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Odie Cleghorn, RW
335. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Butch Goring, C
336. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Joe Klukay, W
337. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Lennart Svedberg, D
338. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Dan Boyle, D
339. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - George Hay, LW
340. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Johnny Gottselig, LW
341. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Frank Finnigan, RW
342. Dwight - West Island Lions - Dave Taylor, RW
343. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vladimir Shadrin, C
344. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Dany Heatley, LW/RW
345. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vsevolod Bobrov, LW
346. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Zigmund Palffy, RW
347. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Marty Walsh, C
348. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Vincent Damphousse, C/LW
349. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads, Don McKenney, C/LW
350. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Claude Lemieux, RW
351. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Lester Patrick, coach
352. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Brad Richards, C

Round 12

353. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Jack Adams, C/LW
354. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Pierre Turgeon, C
355. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Ulf Samuelsson, D
356. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Don Marshall, LW
357. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Don Luce, C
358. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Neil Colville, C/D
359. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Gord Roberts, LW
360. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bobby Rousseau, RW
361. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Pete Mahovlich, C/LW
362. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Craig Hartsburg, D
363. Dwight - West Island Lions - Dave Burrows, D
364. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Brian Sutter, LW
365. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Jean Pronovost, RW
366. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Harry Watson, LW
367. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Dave Poulin, C
368. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Eddie Oatman, RW
369. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Fred Shero, Coach
370. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Bob Johnson, Coach
371. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Milan Novy, C
372. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Art Duncan, D
373. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Phil Goyette, C
374. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ken Mosdell, C
375. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Derek Sanderson, C
376. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brent Sutter, C
377. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Victor Stasiuk, W
378. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Cooney Weiland, C
379. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Kirk Muller, LW/C
380. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Fleming Mackell, C/LW
381. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ted Harris, D
382. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Reed Larson, D
383. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Tommy Ivan, Coach
384. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Hap Day, Coach

Round 13

385. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Blair Russell, C/RW
386. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Teppo Numminen, D
387. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Harry Hyland, RW
388. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Wally Stanowski, D
389. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Glen Harmon, D
390. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Fred Stanfield, C/LW
391. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Vic Hadfield, LW
392. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Dick Irvin, Sr., coach
393. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wendel Clark, LW
394. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Reggie Leach, RW
395. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Owen Nolan, RW
396. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Bill Guerin, RW
397. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Don Marcotte, F
398. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Bob Nevin, RW
399. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Alec Connell, G
400. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Dave Balon, LW
401. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Dirk Graham, RW
402. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Barry Beck, D
403. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Ron Ellis, RW
404. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Joel Otto, C
405. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Rob Ramage, D
406. Dwight - West Island Lions - Bob Bourne, C/W
407. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Eduard Ivanov, D
408. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Edgar Laprade, C
409. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Paul Reinhart, D
410. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Dave Andreychuk, LW
411. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Jack Darragh, RW
412. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Rusty Crawford, LW/C
413. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Anatoli Tarasov, Coach
414. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Ivan Hlinka, C
415. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Harry Westwick, W
416. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Bill Hajt, D

Round 14

417. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - John Madden, C/LW
418. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Shea Weber, D
419. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Jiri Holik, LW
420. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Barclay Plager, D
421. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Smokey Harris, LW
422. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Jack Marshall, F/D
423. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Eric Nesterenko, RW
424. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Rene Robert, RW
425. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bruce Stuart, F
426. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vladimir Vikulov, RW
427. Dwight - West Island Lions - JP Parise, LW
428. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Charlie Simmer, LW
429. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Mike Babcock, Coach
430. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Pat Burns, Coach
431. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Camille Henry, C/LW
432. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Steve Smith, D
433. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Eric Staal, C
434. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Lloyd Cook, D
435. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Jacques Lemaire, Coach
436. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Carol Vadnais, D
437. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Trevor Linden, C/RW
438. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Viktor Kuzkin, D
439. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Ken Morrow, D
440. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Charlie Huddy, D
441. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Reijo Ruotsalainen, D
442. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Graham Drinkwater, D
443. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bob Nystrom, RW
444. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Ed Van Impe, D
445. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Doug Risebrough, C
446. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Craig Ludwig, D
447. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Hec Kilrea, LW
448. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Gilles Tremblay, LW

Round 15

449. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Jim Pappin, RW
450. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Glen Sather, Coach
451. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Doug Weight, C
452. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Terry O'Reilly, RW
453. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Gary Bergman, D
454. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Hap Holmes, G
455. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Dale Hunter, C
456. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Jack Adams, Coach
457. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Stefan Persson, D
458. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Bobby Holik, C/LW
459. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Johnny Peirson, RW
460. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Bengt-Åke Gustafsson, RW
461. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Jerry Toppazzini, RW
462. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Floyd Curry, RW
463. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Cecil Hart, Coach
464. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Jack Laviolette, D/W
465. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Keith Magnuson, D
466. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Adam Graves, LW
467. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Tommy Smith, LW/C
468. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Sandis Ozolinsh, D
469. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Percy Galbraith, LW
470. Dwight - West Island Lions - Duncan Keith, D
471. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Venjamin Alexandrov, LW
472. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Punch Imlach, Coach
473. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Gerry Cheevers, G
474. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Mats Naslund, LW
475. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Hamby Shore, D
476. tony d - Garnish Cougars - George McNamara, D
477. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Ed Giacomin, G
478. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Lars-Erik Sjoberg, D
479. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Rick Nash, LW
480. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Gennady Tsygankov, D

Round 16

481. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Pat Quinn, Coach
482. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Roger Neilson, Assistant Coach
483. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Ken Daneyko, D
484. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Pete Green, Coach
485. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Stan Smyl, RW
486. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Dion Phaneuf, D
487. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Tom Barrasso, G
488. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ian Turnbull, D
489. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Harry Lumley, G
490. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Yuri Liapkin, D
491. Dwight - West Island Lions - Glen Skov, C/LW
492. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Craig MacTavish, C
493. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Andy "Spuds" Hebenton, C
494. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Mike Foligno, RW
495. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - František Tikal, D
496. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Wilf Paiement, RW
497. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Steve Kasper, C
498. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Pat Verbeek, RW
499. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Ken Linseman, C
500. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Mario Tremblay, RW
501. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Bobby Smith, C
502. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Paul Ronty, C
503. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Harry Mummery, D
504. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bill Barilko, D
505. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Keith Primeau, C
506. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Bucko MacDonald, D
507. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dennis Hull, LW
508. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Shane Doan, RW
509. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Brenden Morrow, LW
510. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - John MacLean, RW
511. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Bernie Nicholls, C/RW
512. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Jerry Korab, D

Round 17

513. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Clarence "Taffy" Abel, D
514. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Rogie Vachon, G
515. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers Dallas Smith, D
516. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Dain Bain, C
517. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Tony Amonte, RW
518. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Kris Draper, C
519. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Tommy Gorman, Coach
520. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Troy Murray, C
521. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Tomas Holmstrom, RW
522. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Yvon Lambert, LW
523. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Kevin Hatcher, D
524. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Ken Hitchcock, Coach
525. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Rick Vaive, RW
526. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Jiri Bubla, D
527. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Red Berenson, C
528. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Todd Bertuzzi, W
529. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Thomas Steen, C
530. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Rod Seiling, D
531. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Sergei Kapustin, LW
532. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Zinetula Bilyaletdinov, D
533. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers Murray Oliver, C
534. Dwight - West Island Lions - Bobby Schmautz, RW
535. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Ivan Tregubov, D
536. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Orland Kurtenbach, C
537. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Simon Gagne, LW
538. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - John "Pie" McKenzie, RW
539. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Dollard St. Laurent, D
540. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Barry Trotz, Coach
541. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Arkady Chernyshev, Coach
542. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Boris Mayorov, W
543. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Brian Rolston, F
544. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Mel Bridgman, C/LW

Round 18

545. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Marian Gaborik, RW
546. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Billy Burch, C
547. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Curtis Joseph, G
548. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - James Patrick, D
549. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Oldrich Machac, D
550. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Art Ross, coach
551. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Johnny Wilson, LW
552. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ryan Kesler, C/RW
553. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Vincent Lecavalier, C
554. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Viktor Tikhonov, coach
555. Dwight - West Island Lions - Phil Russell, D
556. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Jacques Demers, coach
557. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Kelly Miller, LW
558. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Jamie Macoun, D
559. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Ron Stackhouse, D
560. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Robert Svehla, D
561. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Don Awrey, D
562. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Adam Deadmarsh, RW
563. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Gaye Stewart, LW
564. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Ron Greschner, D
565. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Louis Berlinquette, LW
566. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Ross Lonsberry, LW
567. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Albert ''Battleship'' Leduc, D
568. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ray Whitney, LW
569. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Rejean Houle, RW
570. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Billy Boucher, RW
571. papershoes - Kenora Thistles- Jonathan Toews, C
572. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Lynn Patrick, LW
573. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ryan Smyth, LW
574. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Ken Wharram, RW
575. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Larry Robinson, assistant coach
576. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Dave Trottier, LW

Round 19

577. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Anders Hedberg, RW
578. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Jack Portland, D
579. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Reg Fleming, LW/D
580. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Kevin Dineen, RW
581. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Dick Irvin Sr., C
582. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Herb Brooks, coach
583. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Al Secord, LW
584. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - George Owen, D
585. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Paul Henderson, RW
586. Nayld Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Tim Thomas, G
587. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Kimmo Timonen, D
588. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Dennis Hextall, LW
589. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Art Chapman, C
590. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Chuck Rayner, G
591. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Lorne Chabot, G
592. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Tommy Anderson, LW/D
593. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Rudy Pilous, Coach
594. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Patrick Marleau, C/LW
595. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks Bruce Macgregor, F
596. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Alexei Kovalev, RW
597. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Jaroslav Pitner, Coach
598. Dwight - West Island Lions - Steven Stamkos, C
599. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Boris Alexandrov, LW
600. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Mike Keane, RW
601. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Mike Keenan, Coach
602. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Brian Engblom, D
603. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Ernie Russell, RW/C
604. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Mike McPhee, LW
605. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Pit Martin, C
606. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Milan Hejduk, RW
607. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vasili Pervukhin, D
608. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - John Muckler, coach

Round 20

609. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Hobey Baker, D
610. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bob Armstrong, D
611. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Mattias Ohlund, D
612. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - John Vanbiesbrouck, G
613. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Pud Glass, RW
614. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Cully Wilson, RW
615. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Calle Johansson, D
616. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - John Tortorella, coach
617. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Jan Erixon, LW
618. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Jaroslav Holík, C
619. Dwight - West Island Lions - Ab McDonald, C/LW
620. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Dickie Boon, D
621. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Bill "Red" Hay, C
622. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Roberto Luongo, G
623. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Tomas Sandstrom, RW
624. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Patrick Sharp, F
625. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Ryan Getzlaf, C
626. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Eddie "The Entertainer" Shack, LW
627. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Ray Getliffe, C/LW
628. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Mike Vernon, G
629. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Alf Skinner, RW
630. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Red Sullivan, C
631. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Leo Labine, RW
632. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ray Ferraro, C
633. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Al Rollins, G
634. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Ron Hextall, G
635. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Saku Koivu, C
636. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Corey Perry, RW
637. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Mike Richter, G
638. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Lindy Ruff, Coach
639. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Murray Murdoch, LW/C
640. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Dave Langevin, D

Round 21

641. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Dave Kerr, G
642. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Bill Ezinicki, RW
643. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Henrik Lundqvist G
644. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Peter Laviolette, Coach
645. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Corb Denneny, F
646. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - John Bouse Hutton, G
647. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Goldie Prodger, D/LW
648. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Marcel Bonin, W
649. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Mike Liut, G
650. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Percy LeSueur, G
651. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Bill Goldsworthy, RW
652. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Yevgeni Babich, RW
653. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Red Hamill, LW
654. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Ron Stewart, RW
655. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Dunc Munro, D
656. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Vladimir Dzurilla, G
657. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Miikka Kiprusoff, G
658. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Evgeni Nabokov, G
659. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Petr Svoboda, D

660. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Glenn "Chico" Resch, G
661. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Normie Smith, G
662. Dwight - West Island Lions - Joel Quenneville, Coach
663. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Alexander Almetov, C
664. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Mark Tinordi, D
665. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Kirk Maltby, LW
666. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan- Bob Davidson, LW
667. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Harry Sinden, Assistant Coach
668. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Pekka Lindmark, G
669. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Al Arbour, D
670. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Jiri Kralik, G
671. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Herbert "Buddy" O'Connor, C
672. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Chris Osgood, G

Round 22

673. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Gould, RW
674. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - John Ross Roach, G
675. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Ludek Bukac, coach
676. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Cal Gardner, C/LW
677. tony d - Garnish Cougars - John Ogrodnick, LW
678. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Riley Hern, G
679. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Marc Andre Fleury, G
680. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jamie Langenbrunner, RW
681. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Andre "Moose" Dupont, D
682. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Konstantin Loktev, RW
683. Dwight - West Island Lions - Andrei Markov, D
684. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Duane Sutter, RW
685. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Jacques Laperriere, coach
686. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scott Hartnell, LW
687. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Andy Moog, G
688. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Steve Chiasson, D
689. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Jay Pandolfo, LW
690. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Dmitri Yushkevish, D
691. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Mattias Norstrom, D
692. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Clint Smith, C/LW
693. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Glen Wesley, D
694. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Roger Crozier, G
695. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Pierre Mondou, C/LW
696. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Al Iafrate, D
697. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Bobby Rowe, D/RW
698. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Jimmy Peters, RW
699. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Doug Bodger, D
700. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Charlie Hodge, G
701. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Kent Nilsson, C/RW
702. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Neal Broten, C
703. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Pavol Demitra, C
704. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Billy Reay, coach

Round 23

705. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Ken Randall, D/RW
706. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Robyn Regehr, D
707. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Doug Barkley, D
708. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ryan Walter, C/LW
709. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Jack "Tex" Evans, D
710. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Rick Ley, D
711. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Steve Duchesne, D
712. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Chris Drury, C/LW
713. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Dan Bylsma, Coach
714. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Paul MacLean, RW
715. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Wade Redden, D
716. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Barry Ashbee, D
717. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Ed Jovanovski, D
718. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Jaroslav Jirik, W
719. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Darius Kasparaitis, D
720. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Jason Allison, C
721. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Kjell Samuelsson, D
722. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Craig Conroy, C
723. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Metro Prystai, C
724. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Dick Redmond, D
725. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Harry Trihey, C
726. Dwight - West Island Lions - Mickey Redmond, RW
727. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Boris Kulagin, coach
728. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Peter McNab, F
729. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Lorne Carr, RW
730. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Barney Stanley, RW/D
731. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Harry Smith, C/LW
732. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Dave Babych, D
733. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Lubomir Visnovsky, D
734. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Stanislav Nevesely, coach
735. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Al MacAdam, RW/LW
736. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Adrian Aucoin, D

Round 24

737. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Bob Probert, W
738. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Clem Loughlin, D
739. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Ladislav Trojak, F
740. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Jack Marks, F/D
741. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Yuri Lebedev, RW
742. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Clarence McKerrow, C
743. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Tom Lysiak, C
744. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jyrke Lumme, D
745. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Joe Primeau, coach
746. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Victor Konovalenko, G
747. Dwight - West Island Lions - Olaf Kolzig, G
748. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Patrick Kane, RW
749. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Ron Sutter, C
750. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Mathieu Schneider, D
751. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Curt Fraser, LW
752. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Gregg Sheppard, C/LW
753. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Rick Meagher, C
754. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Alex Shibicky, LW
755. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Harry Oliver, C/RW
756. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Joe Lamb, C/RW
757. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Art Gagne, RW
758. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Garry Unger, C
759. Nayld Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Jason Arnott
760. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Kelly Hrudey, G
761. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Stephane Richer, W
762. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Alexander Gusev, D
763. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Mike Rogers, C
764. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Eddie Gerard, coach
765. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ryan Suter, D
766. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Bill Thoms, C
767. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Mike Richards, C
768. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Allan Cameron, D

Round 25

769. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Dennis Maruk, C
770. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Pavel Kubina, D
771. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Victor Shalimov, RW
772. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Dave Tippett, coach
773. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Fred Lake, W/D
774. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Father David Bauer, coach
775. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Charley "Rabbit" McVeigh, C/LW
776. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Gerard Gallant, LW
777. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Joe Watson, D
778. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Normand Rochefort, D
779. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Andre Boudrais, C/LW
780. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - John Ferguson, W
781. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Tomas Jonsson, D
782. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Behn Wilson, D
783. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Sami Pahlsson, C
784. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Gilles Marotte, D
785. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Marc Tardiff, LW
786. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Jason Spezza, C
787. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Warren Strelow, Goaltending coach
788. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Marc Savard, C
789. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Jack Campbell, D
790. Dwight - West Island Lions - Roman Hamrlik, D
791. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Alexei Gusarov, D
792. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Red Kelly, coach
793. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Milan Lucic, LW
794. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Alexei Zhitnik, D
795. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Chris Phillips, D
796. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Randy Gregg, D
797. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Fred Whitcroft, F/D
798. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Martin Straka, C
799. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Mush March, RW
800. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Michal Handzus, C

Add/Drops:

1893 Montreal AAA
Drops: Red Kelly, coach
Adds: Georges Mantha, LW

Vancouver Millionaires
Drops: Milan Lucic, LW
Adds: Alexei Yashin, C

Cincinnati Fireworks
Drops: Ron Greschner, D
Adds: Hakan Loob, RW

L'équipe Nationale de France
Drops: John Ferguson, W
Adds: Frank Patrick, coach

Trades:

To Cincinatti: All of New Jersey's picks, starting at 13
To Ak Bars Kazan All of Cincinatti's, picks starting at 26
To New Jersey: All Ak Bars Kazan's, picks starting at 31

To Hamilton Mustangs: All of Kimberley's picks, starting at 8 (later traded to Toronto St. Pats)
To Kimberley Dynamiters: All of Hamilton's picks, starting at 13.

To Hamilton Mustangs - All of picks Toronto's picks starting at 5
To Toronto St. Pats- All of Hamilton's picks starting at 8

To Ak Bars Kazan: 24 and 41
To 1893 Montreal AAA: 26 and 39

To Kenora: 23 and 170
To Kimberley: 59 and 70. 59 was later traded to Winnipeg

To Vancouver Millionaires- #42, #106
To Kimberley Dynamiters- #25, #153

To 1893 Montreal AAA - 36, 93, and 157
To Halifax - 39, 88, 152

To Montreal Canadiens: 41, 154, 218
To Ak Bars Kazan: 47, 146, 210

To Winnipeg Saints - #59, #151
To Kimberley Dynamiters - #71, #122

To Toronto St. Pats - #51, #78
To L'équipe Nationale de France - #57 #72

To Hamilton Mustangs: 76th and 140th
To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 60th and 188th

To Cincinatti Fireworks:74,119,183
To Australia Mighty Roos: 77,116,180

To Hamilton: 88, 100, 152, 228
To Halifax: 76, 133, 140, 261

To Toronto St. Pats: #83, #110
To Chicago Shamrocks: #78, #121

To Lada Togliatti: #82, #111
To Les Canadiens de Montréal: #80, #113

To Vancouver Millionaires: #83 and #185
To Toronto St. Pats: #89 and #168

To Kimberley: #110, #136, #200, #249
To Toronto St. Pats: #87, #153, #215, #279

To Hamilton Mustangs: 89, 215, 264, 392, #441
To Toronto St. Pats: 124, 152, 252, 380, #453

To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 109th overall and 212th overall
To Atlanta Thrashers: 117th overal and 181st overall

To Les Canadiens de Montréal: 138, 180
To Australia Mighty Roos: 113, 218

To Pittsburgh Keystones gets 216, 233, and 297
To 1893 Montreal AAA gets 193, 256, and 320

To Toronto St. Pats get #122, #200
To Kimberley Dynamiters get #152, #153

To Les Canadiens de Montréal get #124, #200 , #279
To Toronto St. Pats get #138, #200, #274

To Toronto St. Pats get 146 , 167 , 359
To AK Bars Kazan gets 138 , 180 , 377

To Kenora Thistles: 131 , 254 , 446
To Philadelphia Flyers: 170 , 187 , 390

To Chicago Shamrocks: 156 + 165 + 293
To Garnish Cougars: 147 + 174 + 302

To Kenora: Bill Barber, 250, 442
To Winnipeg Saints: Lionel Conacher, 262, 454

To Seattle Metropolitans: 154 - 200
To Les Canadiens de Montreal: 149 - 213

To Cincinnati 162 287 415
To New Jersey 183 244 397

To Hamilton Mustang 165 , 275
To Chicago Shamrocks 197 , 215

To Toronto St Pats 175 , 239
To Les Canadiens de Montreal 168 , 252

To Toronto St Pats 182 , 246
To Rogle BK 167 , 274

To Toronto St Pats 185 , 217
To Vancouver Millionnaires 175 , 239

To Kimberley Dynamiters: 204, 309 & 652
To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 234, 249 & 618

To Rögle BK - Foyston (191), 322, 386, 450, 575, 578
To Inglewood Jacks: 203, 310, 374, 438, 566, 587

To Kimberley Dynamiters: 238 + 531
To Chicago Shamrocks: 298 + 309

To Les Canadiens de Montréal: 245, 373, 437 & 501
To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 252, 367, 431 & 495

To Les Canadiens de Montreal: 259, 318, 510, 451
To Philadelphia Flyers: 279, 303, 437, 466

To Garnish Dragons: 263 and 327
To Winnipeg Saints: 284 and 302

To Pittsburgh Keystones: 270, 398, 499
To L'équipe Nationale de France: 297, 321, 513

To Vancouver Millionares: Igor Larionov (136), Vyacheslav Starshinov (238), #362
To Kimberly Dynamiters: Bill Cowley(106), Bobby Bauer (296), #345

To New Jersey Swamp Devils: 361, 408, 425
To 1893 Montreal AAA: 354, 418, 479

To Inglewood Jacks: 374 and 383
To Chicago Shamrocks: 366 and 403

To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 372, 415
To Cincinnati Fireworks: 367, 431

To Seattle Metropolitans - Pat Egan (324), 388, 516
To Hartford Whalers - Bert Corbeau (300), 405, 533

To Cincinnati Fireworks: 420, 484
To Halifax Mooseheads: 431, 461

To Rogle BK : Picks 421 and 540
To Garnish Cougars: Picks 450 and 502

to chicago shamrocks: 451 and 501
To Les canadiens de montréal: 430 and 558

To Dawson City Nuggets: 438 and 447
To Inglewood Jacks: 434 and 463

to 1893 Montreal AAA: 510-530-658
to Les Canadiens de montréal: 489-553-681

To Ak Bars Kazan (nik jr): #494 + #501 + #622 + #659
To Chicago Shamrocks(Hawkey Town 18): #487 + #538 + #602 + #679

To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 503, 586 & 759
To Australia Mighty Roos: 524, 565 & 693

To Eaglebelfour: 546 - 671
To TheDevilMadeMe: 563 - 627

To L'équipe Nationale de France: 629 - 780
To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 654 - 691

To Toronto Maple Leafs: #679 + #686
To Chicago Shamrocks#649 + #777


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This thread is now dedicated to discussing Steven Stamkos' sick flow.

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This thread is now dedicated to discussing Steven Stamkos' sick flow.
Erik Karlsson's is better!



That's just outrageous, Kris Letang even said Karlsson has nice flow

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Both of his goals were assisted by Brian Lee. HE'S A PRODUCT OF BRIAN LEE BEING SO AWESOME!!!!

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Both of his goals were assisted by Brian Lee. HE'S A PRODUCT OF BRIAN LEE BEING SO AWESOME!!!!
We won't know for sure until we check the hockey summary project.

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He's got pyroclastic flow.

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I agree with you that their point production wouldn't disappear. I guess saying they'd be SOL was the wrong way of putting it.



So if that chemistry exists, and 70 points is very high end production (and it is).. why does an improvement need to occur at all, especially since it isn't a guaranteed thing, which is what they have now?



Gee.. I find that really hard to swallow, dude. Bozak was playing between two guys who have been top-10 in scoring for almost the entire season, and he hasn't even cracked 40 points yet. Moulson and Parenteau have been playing with a guy who isn't very far ahead of either of them offensively. If you think Tavares, primarily a goal scorer, has artificially increased the point totals of Moulson and Parenteau to levels they would never be able to achieve on their own, then why hasn't the same thing occurred with Bozak playing between two guys who have been better than Tavares offensively this year?

I think you might need to admit that you're wrong on this one, and accept that Moulson and Parenteau are late bloomers who have bucked the so-called trend.
Maybe they will buck the trend. I bet they won't. We'll all still be here in a few years.

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aside: I wonder if there is something in the idea that puckmoving defensemen are more important or somehow "get better" in the postseason. We see this effect a lot. Paul Reinhart and Bryan Leetch are two more examples of puckmovers who were particularly good playoff performers.
this has been the case for my whole life. I knew from very early on, it was always a good idea to have a couple big offensive defensemen in a playoff draft. I remember reading that it had something to do with the tighter checking making PPs more important.

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I believe that Markov was legitimately a top-5ish defenseman in the league at his peak, and if he can get back to that level and perform for another 4-5 seasons like that...yeah, he could be a hall of famer. It's unlikely, but stranger things have happened.
A modern HHOF defenseman who was never a postseason all-star? Wouldn't this be unprecedented?

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I believe that Markov was legitimately a top-5ish defenseman in the league at his peak, and if he can get back to that level and perform for another 4-5 seasons like that...yeah, he could be a hall of famer. It's unlikely, but stranger things have happened.
Stranger things have happened, but it's far too unlikely to call it. Markov is coming back from two years on knee injuries. The best we can hope for is that he will be as good as he was before the injuries, but at already 34 years of age, it's almost wishful thinking. You can see after two games that he's just as cerebral as he use to be, but I wonder about his mobility, which made him a fantastic defensive defenceman.

About the Lidstrom-lite comparison: obviously their style are very similar, but I was also complimenting Markov. I believe he was that good. And it's not because I'm a habs fan.

For the AS record, I also believe that his record is underwhelming compare to the performances he's shown on the ice. Perhaps he should of ranked higher in 2008 and 2009, perhaps he should of received a SAST in one of those year (especially 2008), but I cannot say he was stolen of an All-Star spot or anything. Nitpicking if he should of finished 4th or 7th is not worth it. What I was very surprise to see is that Markov received absolutely no AS consideration in 2006 and 2007. Looking at the names on those lists, it's clear that he was underrated in the AS voting during those two seasons.


For the discussion about the book Ultimate Hockey as a reliable sources, I also believe that some of their writing are sketchy to say the least. My overall feeling about the book is that the biographies about the players are almost always reliable, but their retro-awards and the little 'tidbits' at the start of each decade shouldn't be counted as a reliable source. Especially the retro-awards pre-consolidation (1927): it feels like they had that great idea in giving retro-award for each seasons since organize hockey is played, and as they found out that they didn't had enough information to make a clear decision, they just plugged names around to finish the list. Retro-Selke in 1892? Give me a break!

If you guys don't wanna spend hundreds of dollars into buying The Trail of the Stanley Cup Trilogy (I bought all three of them for 340$, and with patience they will show up around those prices, right now you can't find them on amazon under 1000$), who I believe is the best and most reliable source for anything hockey related, you can buy Kings of the Ice at a very sensible price, 30$-40$ with shipping, and the information is great. It's also the book to get if you're into non-NHL players.

Who's Who in Hockey is probably very cheap and give you decent information on players. A nice supplement when making a biography. The Top-100 books of the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Maple Leafs and the New York Rangers are loaded with information. Total Hockey is extremely cheap, and they have little biography on a lot of players from around the world. Not very informative in term of playing style though. Stan Fischler's book are a bit too bias for my liking.

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Imo stamkos would got 50 ten games ago if he played with stlouis more

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A modern HHOF defenseman who was never a postseason all-star? Wouldn't this be unprecedented?
I tend to believe that voting results in any given season are only loosely reflective of value. Over time, they tell a valuable story, but in any given season, they can be misleading. I think if Markov returned to his previous level of play, he's be about twice a 2nd team AST in 4-5 seasons. That level of play...hmmm...yeah, but the HHOF is cruel to modern offensive defensemen. Clark Gillies was a hall of famer for how many years before Mark Howe was inducted? J.C. Tremblay will not see the HHOF in his own lifetime, which I consider an obvious misjudgment and/or prejudice based on WHA association.

On the other hand, Larry Murphy is in the Hall with three 2nd ASTs, four Cups and a ton of career value to his credit, so there is probably your lower boundary for modern offensive defensemen. A tough standard.

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Is it time to get an experience poster to pick a few players for Papershoes?

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1x Stanley Cup Champion
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1x Olympic Gold Medalist
3x Top 18 Selke Voting (7, 13, 18)
7th in All Star Voting
8th in Hart Voting
5x Top 17 Assists (5, 13, 13, 15, 17)
3x Top 25 Points (5, 14, 25)
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For the next five years Neal's star would shine. He was runner up to rookie of the year, Dale Hawerchuk, in 1981-82. He scored 405 points in his first five seasons and led his team in scoring in three of those years. The entire line of Broten-MacArthy-Ciccerelli was invited to play at the 1983 All-Star game. In 1985-86 he scored a career high 105 points which marked the first time that a U.S. born player has ever reached the 100 point mark.

After the injury, Broten's game eventually evolved into a more defensive style. His scoring was down, but he became one the NHL's premiere penalty killers and he was often seen playing the point on the powerplay. In 1989, he was paired with Mike Gartner and Brian Bellows and for the first half of the season, they were one of the hottest trio's in the league.
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The state of Minnesota has yet to produce a hockey player as revered and accomplished as Neil Broten. After a successful high school career with the Roseau Rams, he went to play for the University of Minnesota's Gophers under the direction of Herb Brooks.

All told, Broten remained with the Stars' organization for 15 of his 17 big-league seasons. He is the franchise's all-time leader in scoring, assists, games played, seasons, shorthanded goals, playoff games and playoff assists. His number 7 was retired by the Dallas Stars in 1998. As well, he was inducted into the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame in the year 2000.
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But few would argue that Neal was not the best. In fact, in a state that has produced more hockey superstars than virtually every other state in the country, most consider Neal to be the best player the state has ever produced.

He knew that his incredible skill package was undeniably impressive. He called Broten the greatest athlete he ever coached at the University.

Broten would enjoy 11 more productive seasons in Minnesota, including a career high 76 assists and 105 points in 1985-86. By scoring 100 points, he became the first American born player to score 100 points in National Hockey League history. But never managed to take his game to the next level of superstar point scorer like the Gretzkys, Lemieuxs, Hawerchucks and Yzermans of his day. Other than that unexpected run to the Stanley Cup finals in 1981, the North Stars never really accomplished much during Broten's long tenure either. As such the understated Broten was forever in the shadows of other stars, except in Minny where the whole state revered him.

By this time Broten was no longer the steady point producer that he was best known for. He was a wily veteran who became more a defensive forward/penalty killer. He spent a season and a half in Dallas before being traded to New Jersey for Corey Millen. He spent a little over a season and a half in Jersey, and picked up a Stanley Cup ring in 1995, allowing him to join Ken Morrow as the only 1980 Olympians to win the Stanley Cup. Broten would briefly join the Los Angeles Kings, but 19 games later he was traded back to the Dallas Stars where he finished his career in 1997.

Broten, a super skater and playmaker, played just one game shy of 1100 in the NHL. He scored 289 times while setting up 634 others for a career total of 923 points. He added another 35 goals and 98 points in 135 playoff games. He retired as the franchise's all time record holder (since broken) for career games, points, goals, assists and playoff games. His jersey #7 retired in 1998 by the Stars. Two years later he was inducted into the United States Hockey Hall of Fame.
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"He's a winner," Smith said. "Everyone knows what a good athlete Neal Broten is. It's great to see him get a chance to strut his stuff in the playoffs."

"He's been one of our leading players through the playoffs," Coach Bob Gainey said. "The goals don't measure what he's done for our team. Down through the end of the season he was a key player for us and he wasn't scoring many goals."
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Neal Broten makes the people around him better," Lamoriello said. "He can create offense for other people."

Broten, a 5-9, 175-pounder who is still a very effective penalty killer
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He's been underrated for awhile but a lot of people are starting to realize what vast skills he has. He had an off year last year, but other than that he's been playing superb. Right now, he's playing as fine a brand of hockey as he can and he's capable of it (reaching over 100) over and over again."
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No. We're just taking spares anyway, so it's not a big deal.

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I think someone should probably step in to at least take a 6th defenseman for him. That way at least his starting lineup is filled out.

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I know which professional hockey defenseman I would give him to complete his third pairing. Link mother****ing Gaetz.


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Paper does this every draft. Has anyone PMed him? At this point he could probably get a #6 just as good as guys drafted several rounds ago if he drafted shrewdly m, so I don't see the big deal.

He should definitely be PMed and told he has 3 makeup picks tho

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Another epic head on that Gaetz kid.

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Is he a defenceman, or Conan the barbarian on skates?

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Well allright. I'm sorry I misunderstood your point. You have a way sometimes of making it seem like you think many modern players are really terrible, but maybe I just read too much into your statements.

My point was not that Markov is as good as Boyle from a career perspective. He clearly is not, but I think that is simply because he hasn't had as long of a peak. Both players at their best were about equal, and are good enough to be hall of famers with sufficient length of peak. In all likelihood, neither one will get there. Boyle got too late a start on his NHL career, and Markov will have to come all the way back from a bad injury, which is no sure thing.
I don't really think modern players are terrible, it's just that players like Markov, with no personal or team success and short body of work (yeah I know it's bad luck with the injuries, but still) seem to get too much of a free pass at times. Markov's peak is rather similar to Boyle's, but much shorter. And even Boyle would IMO need a few more excellent years to warrant HoF consideration, so Markov's pretty much out. BTW the player that reminds me most of Boyle is Rafalski, and I don't see many making HoF case for him.

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I don't really think modern players are terrible, it's just that players like Markov, with no personal or team success and short body of work (yeah I know it's bad luck with the injuries, but still) seem to get too much of a free pass at times. Markov's peak is rather similar to Boyle's, but much shorter. And even Boyle would IMO need a few more excellent years to warrant HoF consideration, so Markov's pretty much out. BTW the player that reminds me most of Boyle is Rafalski, and I don't see many making HoF case for him.

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Boyle, unlike Rafalski is a capable #1.

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Boyle, unlike Rafalski is a capable #1.
IIRC, Rafalski was the #1 in his two post-lockout NJ years, and he and the team did very well.

Though Boyle obviously has much longer record as #1.

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With pick 703 Inglewood selects a high quality offensive forward whose elite versatility makes him an excellent "just in case" spare for a scoring role. Points finishes: 6, 7, 10, 14. Without looking, he's probably one of the few modern players to receive notable allstar votes at all 3 forward positions in his career, peaking as high as 3rd at LW, 4th at RW, and 6th at C. He also had a quality Selke finish in 2000, where 8 writers had him in the top-3 (2-2-4-1-0). Solid playoff performer, and a fantastic international player as well.

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I was seriously considering Demitra. In fact, he's a better spare than Nilsson, IMO, but I would've just felt wrong or disrespectful picking him. I don't know why, I should probably rather look at it as honoring him. Guess I'm just weird like that, and having intense flight phobia doesn't help.

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