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May 8: Meszaros (back surgery) expected to play in Game 5 vs. NJD (updates in post 1)

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03-12-2012, 06:38 AM
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Good for Timonen to rest some games. He won't be so exhausted in playoffs.

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03-12-2012, 09:55 AM
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any new reports on Mesz or Timonen?

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any new reports on Mesz or Timonen?
No practice today.

Chris Therien hinted that of the current injured players a "defenseman or two" could be back for tomorrow (Tuesday).

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03-12-2012, 10:36 AM
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Given what he is paid, he had better be better. He should be twice as good as anyone else.
Advanced Statistics. corsi, rel corsi, sv%, fenwick, etc etc. I dont think its good for the team if our 36 yr old who is about to retire is twice as good as the 2nd or 3rd best defender. Means that guys like Carle/Coburn/Meszaros arent even CLOSE to being #1 defenders.

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03-12-2012, 11:22 AM
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Advanced Statistics. corsi, rel corsi, sv%, fenwick, etc etc. I dont think its good for the team if our 36 yr old who is about to retire is twice as good as the 2nd or 3rd best defender. Means that guys like Carle/Coburn/Meszaros arent even CLOSE to being #1 defenders.
I didn't say it was good, I am just saying that a guy with his cap hit ought to excel game in and game out, that's all.

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No practice today.

Chris Therien hinted that of the current injured players a "defenseman or two" could be back for tomorrow (Tuesday).
No Voracek?
The two d-men are probably Kubina and Mez, correct? Doubtful that Timonen is ready to go.

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03-12-2012, 03:10 PM
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No Voracek?
At this point, I think it's safe to assume he is concussed.

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They said Kimmo was sitting as long as the team was winning so maybe he'll be back since they lost.

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No Voracek?
The two d-men are probably Kubina and Mez, correct? Doubtful that Timonen is ready to go.
Voracek skating hard today.

Among the three defensemen, Kubina appears closest to returning but may still need a few more days.

According Timmy P., Mesz has been seen limping at the training facility, did not skate with the others: http://t.co/bdZgqQcH

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No need to rush any of the walking wounded back until they are 100% we need them come playoff time can do without them now unless their ready to go........

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No Voracek?
The two d-men are probably Kubina and Mez, correct? Doubtful that Timonen is ready to go.
Therien's remark was in reply to Saunders saying a forward could return Tuesday. The forward is likely Voracek but a name wasn't specified.

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INJURY UPDATE: #Flyers GM Paul Holmgren announced that defenseman Kimmo Timonen's status is now day-to-day with a lower-body injury

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03-12-2012, 06:25 PM
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03-12-2012, 06:31 PM
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So we may get Kubina, Timonen and Voracek back?

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Therien's remark was in reply to Saunders saying a forward could return Tuesday. The forward is likely Voracek but a name wasn't specified.
Thank you Sir.

I guess we can assume that it's Voracek though, since JVR and Sestitio are still weeks away...

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So we may get Kubina, Timonen and Voracek back?
That's what it looks like... I hope at least one of them comes back tomorrow night. Preferably a d-man. Don't like the Lilja-Manning pairing one bit.

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So, if Timonen or Kubina come back, who's out? I guess it would be the odd Manning out.

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So, if Timonen or Kubina come back, who's out? I guess it would be the odd Manning out.
Yeah, but I must say, I think I'll like Manning's game about as much as I like MAB's and probably more than I like Gustaffson's. Nice to be able to let a bunch of guys compete for a 6th defenseman spot next season.

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Yea, I really like that we have young guys already stepping up in our D. Gives me alot of hope for the future. MAB and Manning will be really good in a few years. Especially Manning, for the most part he looked comfortable out there.

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I would say play Manning over Lilja and Gus. He has more speed than Lilja and more toughness than Gus. It's not going to kill us to play him 15 minutes or so as the number 6 D-Man. I just think he is more well rounded overall than the other two.

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I would say play Manning over Lilja and Gus. He has more speed than Lilja and more toughness than Gus. It's not going to kill us to play him 15 minutes or so as the number 6 D-Man. I just think he is more well rounded overall than the other two.
Lavi seems to trust Gus at this point: last two games 22min TOI, almost 19min EV in the last game - more than any other defenseman.

They won't play Manning over him this season, but if he can keep it up he may have a shot next year.

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Timonen likely will play tonight, probably replacing Manning.

Meszaros is still out.

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03-13-2012, 11:02 AM
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Lavi seems to trust Gus at this point: last two games 22min TOI, almost 19min EV in the last game - more than any other defenseman.

They won't play Manning over him this season, but if he can keep it up he may have a shot next year.
Yep, and Gus has been pretty good the past few games. He didnt look too good when he was playing with Meszaros when MAB was up also, but since his third stint, he has looked pretty good. His relative corsi is 5th best on the team, better than MAB and Meszaros. His regular corsi and sv% are right around there also.


Manning has looked alright, but its next season where Gus, MAB, and Manning will fight for the one spot this team might have on defense.

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Yep, and Gus has been pretty good the past few games. He didnt look too good when he was playing with Meszaros when MAB was up also, but since his third stint, he has looked pretty good. His relative corsi is 5th best on the team, better than MAB and Meszaros. His regular corsi and sv% are right around there also.


Manning has looked alright, but its next season where Gus, MAB, and Manning will fight for the one spot this team might have on defense.
I could see Gus being the Carle replacement.

Manning is too young and not ready yet. He's going to be good though. He's definitely my favorite of the group because he's the kind of guy who can help you in all situations should he develop correctly.

Bourdon is going to battle vets. I don't think he's just going to be gifted a spot. I could almost see him as having to beat out Gustafsson to make the team, something I don't see happening.

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Any news on Kubina? Was he skating today?

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