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02-09-2006, 08:04 AM
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High School Teams say "No" to Murray...

This certainly has the potential to be an upcoming article in THE ONION...

...and when the dust settles, and Andy Murray is back out on the job market, let us hope that he and his band of merry men are escorted right out of the hallowed halls of some of our less prestigious educational facilities for the pubescent.

We don't need children on either side of the North American border to learn how to not adapt to the New NHL.

Yes, the Kings started strong, but other coaches decided it was time to be pro-active and adapt a style of play that would be effective in this new setup, while AM rested on his sterling laurels and decided that if it didn't work in the previous five seasons he coached the team, it would certainly work now!

Ya think he could have figured this out before the team just pulled its own plug?

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Where's your Manchester report, Tubbs???

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nothing to report.

saw a 6-1 win against a horrible San Antonio team. It was almost as boring as the flight that preceded it.

looking forward to tomorrow night's game against Houston because I get to see top AHL rookie Patrick O'Sullivan, who I totally believed would be a fine Kings draft choice, but because of some off-ice controversy that surrounded him prior to the draft, he slid down to Minnesota, and I think that's gonna bite them (and many other NHL teams) in the butt in the not-so-distance future.

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nothing to report.

saw a 6-1 win against a horrible San Antonio team. It was almost as boring as the flight that preceded it.

looking forward to tomorrow night's game against Houston because I get to see top AHL rookie Patrick O'Sullivan, who I totally believed would be a fine Kings draft choice, but because of some off-ice controversy that surrounded him prior to the draft, he slid down to Minnesota, and I think that's gonna bite them (and many other NHL teams) in the butt in the not-so-distance future.
Well, instead of him, they picked Pushkarev. I think the jury to decide which one of them was a better pick hasn't even been summoned yet (although you're lucky enough to see them both in action tomorrow).

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Well, instead of him, they picked Pushkarev. I think the jury to decide which one of them was a better pick hasn't even been summoned yet (although you're lucky enough to see them both in action tomorrow).
The Jury is out on Push vs. O'Sullivan? Are you kidding me.

O'Sullivan is an absolute stud.

It sucks to look at us taking Pushkarev over players like Bergeron, O'Sullivan, Carle, Fritsche and O'Sullivan, who were all taken in the next 20 picks.

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Personally, I think I would have chosen O'Sullivan before Boyle and/or Tambellini... but that's just me... High risk? Perhaps, but he has never shown he can't be a top offensive weapon.

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The Jury is out on Push vs. O'Sullivan? Are you kidding me.

O'Sullivan is an absolute stud.

It sucks to look at us taking Pushkarev over players like Bergeron, O'Sullivan, Carle, Fritsche and O'Sullivan, who were all taken in the next 20 picks.
Bergeron wasn't on anyones radar except the Bruins.

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Can we please get to see both of them play a couple of seasons in the NHL before we declare one's superiority over the other?

EDIT: And for the record, I too, as Tubby, was hoping that the Kings would pick O'Sully as one of those late first round picks.

Funny, in 03 Minnesota picked Burns in the first round (who was projected as a 2d or 3d rounder), but then compensated by grabbing O'Sully when he slipped to them in the 2d round.

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Can we please get to see both of them play a couple of seasons in the NHL before we declare one's superiority over the other?
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That doesn't really make much sense. O'Sullivan has clearly proven to be the better player by a large margin.

This is like saying Malkin isn't any better then Ned Lukacevic, because neither has played in the NHL yet.

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They are 20 years old, for goodness sake! Allright, I'll give you that O'Sullivan is better now, as a 20 year old, and it's not surprising, given that he was, talent-wise, a top-20 pick in the deepest draft in ages, while Pushky was and remains a project.

Let's revisit this discussion in 4-5 years.

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The Jury is out on Push vs. O'Sullivan? Are you kidding me.

O'Sullivan is an absolute stud.

It sucks to look at us taking Pushkarev over players like Bergeron, O'Sullivan, Carle, Fritsche and O'Sullivan, who were all taken in the next 20 picks.
Yes, it is still out. O'sullivan might seem to be the better pick right now sure...but time will ultimately decide which one was better nhler.

drafting is an inexact science. i think taylor and his scouts has done a tremendous job recently drafting players for the most part (yes, the jury is still out on them but players like frolov and cammy aren't that bad, eh?). and i would still not give up on pushkarev being a regular nhler.

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That doesn't really make much sense. O'Sullivan has clearly proven to be the better player by a large margin.

This is like saying Malkin isn't any better then Ned Lukacevic, because neither has played in the NHL yet.
o'sullivan is not a malkin ...

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Teams passed on O'sullivan because of his off ice problems (don't remember the details). Skill wise the kid was a top 15 pick. I doubt his progress has caught anyone by surprise but the jury is still out on him.

As for Pushkarev...the kid has all the tools. He just needs to put them together.

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And I agree with you. The Kings have drafted really well the last few years.

But I still think O'Sullivan would have been a really nice way to cap off the 03 draft. I think the Kings are going to regret bigtime passing this guy up a whopping 4 times.

If any team had a chance to take a gamble on him it was the Kings.

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