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03-12-2012, 02:53 PM
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Sorry kiddo, this is North American hockey..soft euros do not belong on 4th lines.
I still can't believe that fans of a team with a history of being discriminated and trash talked against for being French would have such a xenophobic, Don Cherry wannabe mindset.

Seriously, have you ever seen Noke play? There's plenty wrong with him but being soft certainly isn't one of them. Two of the three softest players on this team are North Americans.


Staubitz is actually better than I was expecting him to be. He's not a good hockey player by any means, but he's smarter out there than I expected. I thought he was going to be a Shelley type of goon who has no idea how to skate and spends his entire time out there trying to fight skilled players like an idiot. He's no Neil or Prust type but I wouldn't mind seeing him back as a 13th forward.

I agree with Ohashi_Jouzu though that the priority should be filling the defense gaps with toughness so we can focus on skill players for our top 3 lines.

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03-12-2012, 03:46 PM
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I still can't believe that fans of a team with a history of being discriminated and trash talked against for being French would have such a xenophobic, Don Cherry wannabe mindset.

Seriously, have you ever seen Noke play? There's plenty wrong with him but being soft certainly isn't one of them. Two of the three softest players on this team are North Americans.


Staubitz is actually better than I was expecting him to be. He's not a good hockey player by any means, but he's smarter out there than I expected. I thought he was going to be a Shelley type of goon who has no idea how to skate and spends his entire time out there trying to fight skilled players like an idiot. He's no Neil or Prust type but I wouldn't mind seeing him back as a 13th forward.

I agree with Ohashi_Jouzu though that the priority should be filling the defense gaps with toughness so we can focus on skill players for our top 3 lines.

One more gritty big d-man is needed. I think O'Brien is a UFA. I would trade a guy like Weber or Diaz to Edmonton for Peckham or to Wash for Erskine.

I hope the habs will make a big push to get Ryan from Anaheim or Nash from Columbus. I really would not mind then trading the 1st round pick for one of them.

Of course getting rid of Gomez is the 1st step to go.


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Seeing what I'm seeing, I wouldn't be opposed to re-signing Staubitz at the end of the season.

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03-12-2012, 11:03 PM
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I prefer Blunden. Not as much a fighter, but at least he can play hockey.
I knew Gauthier was posting in these boards.

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03-12-2012, 11:11 PM
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I'm gonna eat my words but Stubs might just be a good 12/13th forward for us.

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03-12-2012, 11:26 PM
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agreed, Staubitz > Blunden
Many many Hab fans seem to be VERY happy with Staubitz (same here).

Next year (really hoping for this):
Moen, White, Staubitz, and Schultz gets some games so we can see what he can do...and maybe a few games from Conboy...?


Blunden??? (not sure about him, not against him as a part-time 3rd liner and part-time 4th liner, but...he's really slow and I never saw him defend any teammates (not good) and he's super tall/big (good), but never saw him protect anyone, so...Staubitz for me.

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03-13-2012, 08:12 AM
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One more gritty big d-man is needed. I think O'Brien is a UFA. I would trade a guy like Weber or Diaz to Edmonton for Peckham or to Wash for Erskine.

I hope the habs will make a big push to get Ryan from Anaheim or Nash from Columbus. I really would not mind then trading the 1st round pick for one of them.

Of course getting rid of Gomez is the 1st step to go.
Peckham is brutal as a d-man. No point in getting a guy like that, won't beat anybody up from the press box.

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03-13-2012, 08:15 AM
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Many many Hab fans seem to be VERY happy with Staubitz (same here).

Next year (really hoping for this):
Moen, White, Staubitz, and Schultz gets some games so we can see what he can do...and maybe a few games from Conboy...?


Blunden??? (not sure about him, not against him as a part-time 3rd liner and part-time 4th liner, but...he's really slow and I never saw him defend any teammates (not good) and he's super tall/big (good), but never saw him protect anyone, so...Staubitz for me.
I hope they bring Blunden back for another year. I like the energy he brings and he has some skill. I would have liked to see him fight more but after the NYR thing Martin must have had him on a short leash.

I think if we can re-sign Moen he will be on the 3rd line with possibly Eller and Bourque, something like that. I think you''ll see a winger added for skill, somebody like Semin which would help the PP.

White Blunden Staubitz should be in the 4th line mix with Schultz and Conboy plus a center(Engqvist, Nokelainen or UFA).

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03-13-2012, 08:15 AM
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Peckham is brutal as a d-man. No point in getting a guy like that, won't beat anybody up from the press box.
He isn't a bad player but there isn't a player in the league that takes as many stupid penalties as he does. Just for that I wouldn't take him. Emelin is a much better version than Peckham anyways

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I hope they bring Blunden back for another year. I like the energy he brings and he has some skill. I would have liked to see him fight more but after the NYR thing Martin must have had him on a short leash.

I think if we can re-sign Moen he will be on the 3rd line with possibly Eller and Bourque, something like that. I think you''ll see a winger added for skill, somebody like Semin which would help the PP.

White Blunden Staubitz should be in the 4th line mix with Schultz and Conboy plus a center(Engqvist, Nokelainen or UFA).
Disagree. Blunden is not useful to this team. Replace Blunden with Moen and that's a hell of a 4th line

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03-13-2012, 08:24 AM
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If Moen doesn't stick around, I'd want my bottom-5 to look like;

Blunden - White - Staubitz - Darche - Oreskovich (yes, I'd trade for him if possible - maybe Moen's rights if he doesn't want to sign?).

The only problem again will be our lack of a faceoff specialist.

Darche & Blunde could play against the more finesse teams and the teams where they might have a chance of potting a goal here or there. Oreskovich and Staubitz step in when we face a grittier team, where we need some fight/hitting.

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03-13-2012, 08:27 AM
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Disagree. Blunden is not useful to this team. Replace Blunden with Moen and that's a hell of a 4th line

Moen-White-Staubitz
I'd expect that line to struggle to score 5 goals all year, and I'd expect they'd allow a LOT more than that. Moen without Eller and/or A.Kost? LOL. But you missed the real issue, and that's the fact that Blunden can't "replace" Moen, as they play opposite sides. The choice is still between Staubitz and Blunden, therefore in your 4th line scenario it's either:

Moen-White-Staubitz
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Moen-White-Blunden

I like the last one more, and would be willing to give them more ice time than yours. Anyone is free to disagree, obviously. Still think Staubitz is a waste of a roster spot, and it's sad that the team composition (i.e. collective "toughness") of the Habs was left to decay so much over recent years that they seem to actually consider him a valuable addition. It's like being stuck in the desert for a long time and feeling thankful you found a sheep's bladder full of urine. Still rather have legit water, thank you very much, but whatever saves your life in the moment, right?

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03-13-2012, 08:31 AM
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I'd expect that line to struggle to score 5 goals all year, and I'd expect they'd allow a LOT more than that. Moen without Eller and/or A.Kost? LOL. But you missed the real issue, and that's the fact that Blunden can't "replace" Moen, as they play opposite sides. The choice is still between Staubitz and Blunden, therefore in your 4th line scenario it's either:

Moen-White-Staubitz
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Moen-White-Blunden

I like the last one more, and would be willing to give them more ice time than yours. Anyone is free to disagree, obviously. Still think Staubitz is a waste of a roster spot, and it's sad that the team composition (i.e. collective "toughness") of the Habs was left to decay so much over recent years that they seem to actually consider him a valuable addition. It's like being stuck in the desert for a long time and feeling thankful you found a sheep's bladder full of urine. Still rather have legit water, thank you very much, but whatever saves your life in the moment, right?
Staubitz or Blunden are both waste of roster spots, but one of them can fight and protect his teammates. Blunden is useless to this team. And the job of this line is to give the Habs life and energy, not score. Moen and White can also shift with another player and will also kill penalties so there ice time will be more then Staubitz who will be this team's enforcer unlike Blunden who serves as a punching bag for other teams

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Staubitz or Blunden are both waste of roster spots, but one of them can fight and protect his teammates. Blunden is useless to this team. And the job of this line is to give the Habs life and energy, not score. Moen and White can also shift with another player and will also kill penalties so there ice time will be more then Staubitz who will be this team's enforcer unlike Blunden who serves as a punching bag for other teams
I don't want this all to sound like I'm lobbying specifically for Blunden here, as he's only one example of a dozen (dozens?) players that I'd play before someone like Staubitz. But, to continue...

I guess I'm left wondering, why don't you think Moen and White have enough "toughness" and energy between them to anchor a 4th line with a 6'4" RWer with some skills and a nose for the blue paint? If you're simply of the opinion that the Habs HAVE TO have an enforcer in the lineup, that's one thing, but it just brings you back to my point about the decay of the team's collective toughness leaving them thirsty for that bladder of sheep urine. If Staubitz could contribute anything except for the occasional swinging of fists, it'd be a different story. But he can't, and won't even be on the ice at the same time with the guys you might think need protection (what, is Staubitz out there to "protect" Moen and White in your scenario? lol), so he's more useless than just about anyone currently on the payroll (imo, of course).

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03-13-2012, 11:43 AM
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Disagree. Blunden is not useful to this team. Replace Blunden with Moen and that's a hell of a 4th line

Moen-White-Staubitz
For what Moen will cost he should be on the 3rd line with Eller.

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03-13-2012, 12:25 PM
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I wouldn't mind Peckham as a reclamation project while his value was low. He was beyond awful against us but he plays f the 7th D r a brutal team, hard to learn in that environment. But I wouldn't give up more than another project for him (Weber?) and the priority is someone like Jackman who plays physical and is also decent.

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For what Moen will cost he should be on the 3rd line with Eller.
Geoffrion-Eller-Bourque and also Darche is not being talked about but I wonder if the Habs will bring him back

Moen should be on the 4th line IMO, not 3rd. Be the guy to rotate will top players when they are out of the lineup and also will see PK time. He will be alright

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03-13-2012, 12:47 PM
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How do people complain that Theo Peckham sucks, all the while we have Weber and Kaberle on this team?

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How do people complain that Theo Peckham sucks, all the while we have Weber and Kaberle on this team?
Peckham isn't very good, he takes a lot of dumb penalties in his limited ice time. Believe it or not but I prefer the guys we have.

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Not sure why we can't keep both Staubitz and Blunden. Who else are we going to have ? Darche ?

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How do people complain that Theo Peckham sucks, all the while we have Weber and Kaberle on this team?
They at least bring offense, he sucks with and without the puck.

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peckham sucks ****. go ask the oils board if you don't believe me.

on topic, stow-blitz has impressed me. decent skater, not retarded without the puck, not slow, good pickup imo

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good grinders knows their limits and don't try to be datsyuks and make grounded descisions based on their skillset. not that you shouldn't strive to improve, but work on those things in practice and not in game! staubitz plays this role well. it's always nice when a guy off waivers just seems to work well on your team. the org has earned some freebies through our many trials and tribulations!

there was someone else, i can't remember, in recent years that we also got off waivers and had some success as a team guy/fan favorite. who was it? my firsth thought was tom kosto but i'm not sure.

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I want Staubitz, Blunden and White in the lineup next year. Unless somebody better proves themselves, of course. But other than that, would love to see them all in the bottom 6. Truly, these are the types of guys teams win with.

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I want Staubitz, Blunden and White in the lineup next year. Unless somebody better proves themselves, of course. But other than that, would love to see them all in the bottom 6. Truly, these are the types of guys teams win with.
AHL Teams?

Give me an example of what you consider to be a Blunden-type player on a winning nhl team, who are we comparing him to?

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