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03-15-2012, 08:43 AM
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I am back to "I'll believe it when I see it" status....
I never left it.

That said, between this and the Manning/Titans drama, I'm going to be wearing out twitter today.

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If Radulov will come to NA and become RFA in the summer, will he sign with Nashville?
Haven't gotten that far ahead yet.

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03-15-2012, 08:50 AM
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Got It!!!

First and most important: player can't terminate contract on his own from the moment PO in KHL starts till April 30.

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So now we're waiting on Ufa to agree to terminate?

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03-15-2012, 08:57 AM
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Now to 2/3 thing.

The player that didn't reach 29 years old will have to pay his club 2/3 of the money he was set to make on his contract from the date he terminates it till the end of the contract.
Example: player is set to make 3 mil in his last year, he decide to terminate the contract. Now he has to pay his club 2 mil.

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03-15-2012, 08:59 AM
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Got It!!!

First and most important: player can't terminate contract on his own from the moment PO in KHL starts till April 30.
How very Russian of them to hold this out until April 30 if that's indeed what they do...

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03-15-2012, 09:01 AM
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Got It!!!

First and most important: player can't terminate contract on his own from the moment PO in KHL starts till April 30.
didn't the KHL give him clearance already?

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If Radulov wanted to leave and had any intention of coming back to Russia when his NHL days were over, they need to let him do what he wants here. I would assume he would see it as the KHL delaying a payday for him and the insult of not being coddled could haunt them

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Frustrating that the club is holding him up over this. They had to have known for weeks this was his possible intention. Why wait until the last day to either say, "You can go" or "We're not letting you walk without penalty?"

I guess the fortunate thing is that if Radulov had no idea they were going to do this, it may just be an attempt to save money - that is, they save 2/3 of his salary if they force his hand into leaving on his own. For sure that will make Rads very angry and leave no chance of him staying.

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03-15-2012, 09:08 AM
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Frustrating that the club is holding him up over this. They had to have known for weeks this was his possible intention. Why wait until the last day to either say, "You can go" or "We're not letting you walk without penalty?"
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03-15-2012, 09:16 AM
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I thought his contract was up on April 30. "2/3 of the money he was set to make on his contract from the date he terminates it till the end of the contract"---wouldn't that be 2/3 of the amount from now til April 30?

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I think he's still got a year left on his KHL contract.

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03-15-2012, 09:20 AM
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I would imagine that this clause has to be one of the first things they figured out before getting this far. I hope

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Ouch ... It's looking like the fall if at all

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Now surfacing that the team wants to retain his rights, which they can't do unless he leaves in the fall...so Ufa is, as of now, refusing to let him go. Rads' mind is made up, but it might not matter.

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Now to 2/3 thing.

The player that didn't reach 29 years old will have to pay his club 2/3 of the money he was set to make on his contract from the date he terminates it till the end of the contract.
Example: player is set to make 3 mil in his last year, he decide to terminate the contract. Now he has to pay his club 2 mil.
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Now surfacing that the team wants to retain his rights, which they can't do unless he leaves in the fall...so Ufa is, as of now, refusing to let him go. Rads' mind is made up, but it might not matter.
this is what really chaps my ass... he had no problem saying **** you to us and ******** all over his NHL contract but he's letting himself be bound by the KHL contract rules???

Im thinking the whole thing will come down to whether we want to pay Ufa to release him.... I have thought all along it would come down to that.... and Im surprised it hasnt been brought up sooner...

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Now surfacing that the team wants to retain his rights, which they can't do unless he leaves in the fall...so Ufa is, as of now, refusing to let him go. Rads' mind is made up, but it might not matter.
Great. Well a silver lining may be that this severs any good feelings Rads had for the KHL and we have no problem keeping him here in the future.

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03-15-2012, 09:33 AM
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Now surfacing that the team wants to retain his rights, which they can't do unless he leaves in the fall...so Ufa is, as of now, refusing to let him go. Rads' mind is made up, but it might not matter.
Not seeing how him leaving now or in the fall allows Ufa to retain his rights since his contract expires after next year anyway. Are they saying in the case of if he comes back, plays in the playoffs for us, then goes back to Ufa for next year? I would think technically, that's no different than what he did with us. They can just "suspend" him and let him go while technically keeping his rights.

But it's Russia. Can't say I'm surprised. This whole thing seemed to be going wwaaaaayyyy too easily up to this point.

Looking more and more like we may get a full year of discounted Rads after all, maybe, perhaps.

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03-15-2012, 09:36 AM
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Player will have to pay that money in two month.
Club will still hold the right for that player till the time contract was set to expire. Player becomes RFA at the time his terminated contract expires.
Club can trade his right to other clubs and make a new offer to that player.

If player does not fulfill his financial responsibilities with the club, he becomes suspended player and that club holds right for that player for unlimited period of time.

If player decide to come back to the KHL he must notify KHL and Club in writing and he must fulfill his contract with that club, meaning play it out.

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this is what really chaps my ass... he had no problem saying **** you to us and ******** all over his NHL contract but he's letting himself be bound by the KHL contract rules???

Im thinking the whole thing will come down to whether we want to pay Ufa to release him.... I have thought all along it would come down to that.... and Im surprised it hasnt been brought up sooner...
I think he difference is there was no agreement between the NHL and the KHL at the time Radulov bolted. There is now. So, unfortunately, the NHL are legally obligated to honor the Ufa contract if they refuse to release him despite the approval from the KHL itself. Even if he left Russia and showed up at the doorstep of Bridgestone to play the NHL couldn't let him do it.

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I think he difference is there was no agreement between the NHL and the KHL at the time Radulov bolted. There is now. So, unfortunately, the NHL are legally obligated to honor the Ufa contract if they refuse to release him despite the approval from the KHL itself. Even if he left Russia and showed up at the doorstep of Bridgestone to play the NHL couldn't let him do it.
But I thought the NHL and the Preds never viewed Rads contract with Ufa as a valid contract in the first place...

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03-15-2012, 09:45 AM
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Radulov had a physical in Moscow that showed his knee is fine and he can play (via @plysenkov)

It's all on Ufa

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Player will have to pay that money in two month.
Club will still hold the right for that player till the time contract was set to expire. Player becomes RFA at the time his terminated contract expires.
Club can trade his right to other clubs and make a new offer to that player.

If player does not fulfill his financial responsibilities with the club, he becomes suspended player and that club holds right for that player for unlimited period of time.

If player decide to come back to the KHL he must notify KHL and Club in writing and he must fulfill his contract with that club, meaning play it out.
So he can pay, and everything is "legal."
or
He can skip town and Ufa goes into the mode we are in now.
but
as dubgeek pointed out, the leagues now have an agreement, so the 2nd option really isn't an option.

whatever ... I have a brief to write...

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But I thought the NHL and the Preds never viewed Rads contract with Ufa as a valid contract in the first place...
Very good point. In fact, IIRC when the transfer agreement was agreed to, the NHL tried to have it apply to Rads at the time and the KHL said "Oh no, we meant going forward"...so if it didn't apply to Rads then, I don't see why it would apply now.

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But I thought the NHL and the Preds never viewed Rads contract with Ufa as a valid contract in the first place...
Argh. I wasn't thinking of that.



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