HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Chicago Blackhawks
Notices

Rockford Ice Hogs and Other Prospects 2011-2012

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
03-14-2012, 01:23 PM
  #351
leoleo3535
Registered User
 
leoleo3535's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: hockey rinks
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,125
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teemu View Post
Simpson was pretty mediocre all year, except in the last month or so, where he's been the best goalie in the CHL.
What?
While I admit I have only watched a select few Q & O games over the last month I have watched almost every WHL game and have watched every one of Simpson's games.
He is far from the best in the CHL....not even close to that status in the WHL.

leoleo3535 is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 01:25 PM
  #352
Teemu
Moderator
Level 5 laser lotus
 
Teemu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Palatine
Country: United States
Posts: 18,967
vCash: 500
I think you misread. I just said he's been the best in the past month.

__________________
.
Historic buildings in Chicago (and elsewhere). Recent: LaSalle County, IL
Teemu is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 04:07 PM
  #353
leoleo3535
Registered User
 
leoleo3535's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: hockey rinks
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,125
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teemu View Post
I think you misread. I just said he's been the best in the past month.
No I did not misread it.

How many games have you watched him play in the last month?

leoleo3535 is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 04:38 PM
  #354
Crazy_Ike
Cookin' with fire.
 
Crazy_Ike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,814
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by leoleo3535 View Post
No I did not misread it.

How many games have you watched him play in the last month?
Stop trying to disprove everyone by comparing penises. Tell WHY he is or is not whatever.

Note: I don't even disagree with you. I just despise your posts. You never try to explain your reasoning, you just make a claim and then spout off about how much you "amateur scout" if anyone disagrees with you. You are not a god and there's nothing to indicate you actually understand what you are seeing any better than anyone else when you never actually defend your statements.

I know exactly what it takes to be an amateur scout, and believe me, the fact you try to lord this over everyone else doesn't impress me in the least.

Crazy_Ike is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 04:42 PM
  #355
Crazy_Ike
Cookin' with fire.
 
Crazy_Ike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,814
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marotte Marauder View Post
Let me know the stats on how many goals wer/are on first shots. Then give me the total of goals on <10' rebounds.

If your numbers support your positin, I will agree with your assessment that it is more the golatending rather than the D or D scheme.
The truth is, though, every team lets some of those happen. The goalie is still expected to stop their fair share of it. There's no such thing as a goal they had no chance on unless they were physically removed from making the save.

I am not going to argue our defense is particularly good, from a team standpoint. But we're not getting ANYTHING from our goalies for the most part. They are just plain letting in too many goals, at too poor times.

What you say is true, but the opposite is as well - better goaltending would lead to better circumstances outside the crease as well. Our offense would be better, our puck control would be better, we'd be playing from in front more, and all this would make our defense better too.

It just hasn't been good enough.

Crazy_Ike is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 04:51 PM
  #356
leoleo3535
Registered User
 
leoleo3535's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: hockey rinks
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,125
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy_Ike View Post
Stop trying to disprove everyone by comparing penises. Tell WHY he is or is not whatever.

Note: I don't even disagree with you. I just despise your posts. You never try to explain your reasoning, you just make a claim and then spout off about how much you "amateur scout" if anyone disagrees with you. You are not a god and there's nothing to indicate you actually understand what you are seeing any better than anyone else when you never actually defend your statements.

I know exactly what it takes to be an amateur scout, and believe me, the fact you try to lord this over everyone else doesn't impress me in the least.
Kettle/black.

Why he is or isn't etc.? as stated because I have watched him play and I have watched the other dub goalies play.

leoleo3535 is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 05:15 PM
  #357
Crazy_Ike
Cookin' with fire.
 
Crazy_Ike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,814
vCash: 500
I bet you're a highly regarded scout.

"Yeah, Bob's better than everyone else. Why? Do I need a reason? I just say he is!"

Crazy_Ike is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 05:24 PM
  #358
leoleo3535
Registered User
 
leoleo3535's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: hockey rinks
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,125
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy_Ike View Post
I bet you're a highly regarded scout.

"Yeah, Bob's better than everyone else. Why? Do I need a reason? I just say he is!"
If you could read you would see why.
I stated why.

I am discussing hockey and players......not running around insulting people.

I notice you often state your expert opinion....with zero backup.
I guess that you just operate under different rules than you want to impose on others.
example- here is a gem : #29 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1134729&page=2

leoleo3535 is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 06:04 PM
  #359
Crazy_Ike
Cookin' with fire.
 
Crazy_Ike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,814
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by leoleo3535 View Post
If you could read you would see why.
I stated why.
"I've seen him more than you" is not a reason why.

Quote:
I am discussing hockey and players......not running around insulting people.
Actually, all you do is declare things and then demand a comparison of who has seen a player more if anyone disagrees. I rarely see any actual discussion.

Quote:
I notice you often state your expert opinion....with zero backup.
I guess that you just operate under different rules than you want to impose on others.
example- here is a gem : #29 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1134729&page=2
Here's the difference between you and me. If someone asks my reasoning behind making a statement, I give it. You? "I've seen the player more than you, so I am automatically right!"

Crazy_Ike is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 06:32 PM
  #360
BobbyJet
Registered User
 
BobbyJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dundas, Ontario. Can
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,697
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Psycho T View Post
Your right the goalies aren't to blame at all for any goal they give up ever!

The fact that they are 35th and 41st in SV% is totally the fault of everyone else on the ice but them.

Yes the Hawks D has been bad, but to blame the goaltending being historically bad soley on the D is asinine. Emery and Crawford have more then a fair share in their numbers being where they are, whether it's being out of position, letting in soft goals or just playing badly.
On the other hand, blaming the goalie is a cop out we see all too often. Last night was a perfect example. Q pulled Emery to wake up the team, more than anything else. And it worked, CC had little to do for the rest of the game. Problem being the Hawks need to play solid defensively for an entire game, not 20 or 40 minutes.

No, we don't have a shutdown goalie anywhere in our system and they won't steal too many games. We didn't when we won the SC either, but whose fault is that?

BobbyJet is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 06:56 PM
  #361
WasTeD
ODB
 
WasTeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: in your head
Country: Equatorial Guinea
Posts: 12,179
vCash: 1050
Send a message via Skype™ to WasTeD
Not sure where to put this...

Klinkhammer is playing his 5th game with the Sens tonight which means you guys get a 7th in 2013. Thanks for Klink btw! He's been skating with Alfie and Turris and looking great.

WasTeD is online now  
Old
03-14-2012, 08:51 PM
  #362
nds90
Registered User
 
nds90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 2,680
vCash: 500
brandon saad the next jordan staal?

nds90 is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 08:58 PM
  #363
leoleo3535
Registered User
 
leoleo3535's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: hockey rinks
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,125
vCash: 500
On the subject of Simpson he is battling for his playoff life vs Kelowna tonight.
Puck drop at 7 pm west coast time....ie now.

Fow a few $ you can watch here-
http://whl.neulion.com/whl/

Carruth is also playing....available at the same link.

leoleo3535 is offline  
Old
03-14-2012, 09:35 PM
  #364
massivegoonery
Registered User
 
massivegoonery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 10,747
vCash: 500
Meh, I'm not paying to watch if you say he sucks so bad.

massivegoonery is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 01:30 AM
  #365
DontToewzMeBro
Registered User
 
DontToewzMeBro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,935
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy_Ike View Post
I bet you're a highly regarded scout.

"Yeah, Bob's better than everyone else. Why? Do I need a reason? I just say he is!"
This coming from a guy who was wrong about Stalberg in every way shape or form.

DontToewzMeBro is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 01:44 AM
  #366
Bubba88
Toews = Savior
 
Bubba88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bavaria
Country: Germany
Posts: 20,188
vCash: 900
Quote:
Originally Posted by DontToewzMeBro View Post
This coming from a guy who was wrong about Stalberg in every way shape or form.
he wasn't that wrong about Stalberg...

and I don't think Simpson is as worse as his stats are

Bubba88 is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 03:26 AM
  #367
Sarava
Moderator
 
Sarava's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Naperville, IL
Country: United States
Posts: 6,579
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DontToewzMeBro View Post
This coming from a guy who was wrong about Stalberg in every way shape or form.
Stalberg has been worthless for the last...what 25 games now?

Sarava is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 03:55 AM
  #368
Sir Psycho T
Expert Possum Traper
 
Sir Psycho T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 3,118
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyJet View Post
On the other hand, blaming the goalie is a cop out we see all too often. Last night was a perfect example. Q pulled Emery to wake up the team, more than anything else. And it worked, CC had little to do for the rest of the game. Problem being the Hawks need to play solid defensively for an entire game, not 20 or 40 minutes.

No, we don't have a shutdown goalie anywhere in our system and they won't steal too many games. We didn't when we won the SC either, but whose fault is that?
I didn't completely blame the goalie. Goals are almost always a result of a failure by more then one person, however the goalie is most often one of those people. I know some of the goals given up are not the goalies fault just as I know some of them are. I am baffled though by soo many people just giving our goalies a complete and total pass, as though none of it is their fault at all, which isn't true.

No CC didn't have much to do, neither did Emery, 6 shots. Yes some of them where good shots but you can't let in 3 on six shots unless those shots where clear cut breakaways.

It's not that our goalies aren't shutdown they aren't good, they are terrible. I am not saying the Hawks need Lundqvist to win, but they do need a goalie who can steal a game from time to time and post a SV% better then .900.


I don't think a good goalie guarantees anything however I do find it funny that if I look up goalies stats, compared to standings the top goalies are usually playing on the top teams in the standings, seems to be a correlation.

Sir Psycho T is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 06:24 AM
  #369
Bubba88
Toews = Savior
 
Bubba88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bavaria
Country: Germany
Posts: 20,188
vCash: 900
can we keep this thread for prospects and Rockford?

Bubba88 is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 09:00 AM
  #370
coldsteelonice84
Registered User
 
coldsteelonice84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 18,096
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyJet View Post
And it worked, CC had little to do for the rest of the game. Problem being the Hawks need to play solid defensively for an entire game, not 20 or 40 minutes.
Still, he could have blown it if he had even let in 1 goal at any point but he didn't.

coldsteelonice84 is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 09:59 AM
  #371
Crazy_Ike
Cookin' with fire.
 
Crazy_Ike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,814
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DontToewzMeBro View Post
This coming from a guy who was wrong about Stalberg in every way shape or form.
You misspelled "right and backed up statistically every time". No biggy, it happens, don't worry about it.

Crazy_Ike is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 10:07 AM
  #372
coldsteelonice84
Registered User
 
coldsteelonice84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 18,096
vCash: 50
Nobody was right or wrong about Stalberg except those who evaluated him as is at all times. There have been a lot of peaks and valleys in his play. He's still a work in progress.

coldsteelonice84 is offline  
Old
03-15-2012, 10:24 PM
  #373
BBSeabs27
Registered User
 
BBSeabs27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 2,303
vCash: 500
Adam Clendening named to All Star Hockey East Team, youngest player named to team.

BBSeabs27 is offline  
Old
03-16-2012, 03:57 PM
  #374
Sevanston
Moderator
 
Sevanston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,405
vCash: 500
Justin Holl of U. Minnesota face off against Nick Mattson and Joe Gleason of UND tonight for the WCHA Semifinals at 7pm.

Huge rivalry between those teams. It should be a pretty good game.

Sevanston is online now  
Old
03-16-2012, 04:54 PM
  #375
LandofLincoln
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,962
vCash: 500
I dug this up... It may have already been posted, but looks like Beach will hit the ice towards the end of March.
–Speaking of the injured Kyle Beach, his return to the line up is now targeted for either March 20th at home versus Hamilton or the weekend immediately following when the Houston Aeros are in Rockford for a pair Friday-Saturday, March 23-24.

The current estimate is keeping with the internal timeline targeted for Beach since mid-January. However, at that time the feeling was they were “hopeful” Beach would make it back by the end of March so he could at least play in a handful of games before the regular season ends for the IceHogs on April 14th. Should Beach return the week of March 20-25, a stretch of four games in six days beginning Tuesday the 20th, he’ll be available to play in the IceHogs final 10-12 regular season contests. Considering at one point it was feared Beach’s season was over, this is great news all around.

http://thethirdmanin.com/2012/03/05/...ore/#more-2084

LandofLincoln is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:43 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.