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03-15-2012, 10:43 PM
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Im sorry, I dont see your point....
let me explain it.

The panthers and the Southeast Division get absolutely no respect from the majority of the hockey world.


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HF boards expert's opinion of the Florida panthers this season.

september

The panthers are a lotto team. They overpaid for all of their free agents. It won't work. Caps will win the division

december

The panthers will fall apart. They are this years thrashers. Theodore won't continue playing like this. They will end up with a top ten pick caps will win the division

early february

OMG why does the SE leader get a playoff spot. They are in 3rd place but are 9th in points. They live off the loser point This is a disgrace. Caps will win the division WPG will also pass the panthers

today

Look at their negative goal differential. they play in the southLeast. They will be a pushover in the first round. They don't deserve home ice.
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Im sorry, I dont see your point....
Panthers have been proving the "experts" here wrong all year

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03-16-2012, 12:48 AM
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let me explain it.

The panthers and the Southeast Division get absolutely no respect from the majority of the hockey world.
My point is that the Southeast has been weak all year. The panthers, though not a terrible team certainly arent lighting the world on fire. Please, tell me where all this respect should be coming from.

Great year, way better than expected, but come on, it seems a lot of panthers fans are upset that they arent cup favorites right now.


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Panthers have been proving the "experts" here wrong all year

Seeing as the Panthers DO have a terrbile goal differential and the Southeast IS terrbile this year, I fail to see how the 'experts', as you call them, are wrong about their current thoughts.


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let me explain it.

The panthers and the Southeast Division get absolutely no respect from the majority of the hockey world.
With good reason...It's historically been the weakest division in the entire NHL since its inception...


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03-16-2012, 01:17 AM
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This thread title to change: 7th place, the place to be in the East? Boston is falling. Florida is 2 BIG points behind them. Ottawa is 1 point behind Boston. Boston might not even make it with their struggles. Florida is going to be a tough out for any team, and could possibly win a series at this stretch of the season. Don't underestimate the team in Sunrise. They'll come up and shock you leaving you shaking your head that your team is out and they are moving on.

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03-16-2012, 06:19 AM
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HF boards expert's opinion of the Florida panthers this season.

september

The panthers are a lotto team. They overpaid for all of their free agents. It won't work. Caps will win the division

december

The panthers will fall apart. They are this years thrashers. Theodore won't continue playing like this. They will end up with a top ten pick caps will win the division

early february

OMG why does the SE leader get a playoff spot. They are in 3rd place but are 9th in points. They live off the loser point This is a disgrace. Caps will win the division WPG will also pass the panthers

today

Look at their negative goal differential. they play in the southLeast. They will be a pushover in the first round. They don't deserve home ice.
You nailed it

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03-16-2012, 07:28 AM
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let me explain it words you may or may not understand.

The panthers and the Southeast Division get absolutely no respect from the majority of the hockey world.
That is the way it should be, until they, you know, actually do something.

That said, I give them as good of chances as anyone in the East to win a series or two.

You only need to look at the last few years playoff results to understand that.

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03-16-2012, 07:42 AM
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Seeing as the Panthers DO have a terrbile goal differential and the Southeast IS terrbile this year, I fail to see how the 'experts', as you call them, are wrong about their current thoughts.
The SE isn't any worse than the NE. And people here change their arguments against the Panthers all the time. Whatever the Panthers do, the haters always find new terrible opinions on how we aren't good enough. Pathetic..

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That is the way it should be, until they, you know, actually do something.

That said, I give them as good of chances as anyone in the East to win a series or two.

You only need to look at the last few years playoff results to understand that.
You only need to look at the southeast who have won 2 cups over the last 10 years to understand the southeast has done a lot.

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You only need to look at the southeast who have won 2 cups over the last 10 years to understand the southeast has done a lot.
that is what I am implying...

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My point is that the Southeast has been weak all year. The panthers, though not a terrible team certainly arent lighting the world on fire. Please, tell me where all this respect should be coming from.

Great year, way better than expected, but come on, it seems a lot of panthers fans are upset that they arent cup favorites right now.





Seeing as the Panthers DO have a terrbile goal differential and the Southeast IS terrbile this year, I fail to see how the 'experts', as you call them, are wrong about their current thoughts.
Can't wait to see you in the playoffs!!!!

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With good reason...It's historically been the weakest division in the entire NHL since its inception...
The Southeast has produced 2 Stanley Cup winners (2 teams) since its inception, and won the Eastern Conference 3 times (3 teams).

This is compared to 1 Stanely Cup for the NE and 3 Eastern Conference Champions in that same span...(3 teams)

and 3 Stanley Cups for the Atlantic (2 teams), and 6 Eastern Conference Champions (3 teams)

in the West:

The central has produced 3 cup champs (2 teams) and 4 conference champs (2 teams)

The Northwest has produced 1 cup champ and 5 conference champs (4 teams)

The Pacific has produced 2 cup champs (2 teams) and 3 conference champs (2 teams)
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pretty obvious that the Central and Atlantic have been the best, but other than that it's pretty even.


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I wouldn't want to play Florida in the first round.
They feel like giant killers to me right now

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If Boston drops to 3 I really hope the Devils move to 5 i'll take my chances with pitt/philly/nyr

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Hey All... Look at the Standings now... 6th place or 7th place, if there's an Atlantic Division team occupying either of those spots, what's the difference.

And if you look in the West, the situation is pretty much the same regarding the whichever team finishes in the 6th spot.

This thread has become mute, or should become mute.

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Hey All... Look at the Standings now... 6th place or 7th place, if there's an Atlantic Division team occupying either of those spots, what's the difference.

And if you look in the West, the situation is pretty much the same regarding the whichever team finishes in the 6th spot.

This thread has become mute, or should become mute.
We agree.

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So has every other team it happens players get injured. What makes you sure that since your team has been injured all year that when Flo starts playing in the playoffs your team will some how be healthy?
That's the whole point. Florida's made it this far without icing a healthy team at all this year. Not an injury here or there; at. all.

Whether we get healthy or not for playoffs is yet to be seen. We've managed to come this far limping along. *shrug*

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NJ beats Florida 5-2 its florida breaking down, NJ blowing a 3-0 lead from the 2nd period on is being outplayed. NJ Out shot Florida in the 3-1(1 of goals was a empty net) loss but Florida outplayed them.

your doing exactly what your accusing everyone else of doing.
did you even watch that 4-3 game? Panthers were dominating the Devils and all of a sudden the devils scored 3 quick goals, then it went straight back to the panthers dominating play.

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did you even watch that 4-3 game? Panthers were dominating the Devils and all of a sudden the devils scored 3 quick goals, then it went straight back to the panthers dominating play.
first period was pretty equal the 2nd period and 3rd was all florida but im saying when NJ won 5-2 or 5-1 wtv it was, the other guy said Florida broke down, but when NJ plays bad he says its because Florida outplayed them.
I watch pretty much all of NJ games and there are nights where you wonder If the team forgot that theres a game that night, its maybe like that for all teams. But to say florida dominated everygame accept the one they lost 5-2 because the team didnt show up, when really every game has been close games, hell NJ outshot florida for most of the games some people will say NJ outplayed Florida just could not score.

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Your arguing subjectivity. Which is terrible.

Praying for the devs in the first round....it would be awesome.
Inside so our the Devils, because come playoffs its a new game meaning stats or records mean nothing, you need a deep roster to win rounds. Trust me ive seen 1st in the division Nj teams go into the playoffs and lose first round because we didnt have the depth.
Florida could be a playoff team but they do not have Forward depth, defence is young and dont really have the goalies to steal them a round or 2.
Im not saying this to knock on the Panthers they have a bright future but not this year.
You can say there have been upsets, MTL 2 years ago, EDM going to the finals etc but Florida does not have a Pronger or a Halak.


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first period was pretty equal the 2nd period and 3rd was all florida but im saying when NJ won 5-2 or 5-1 wtv it was, the other guy said Florida broke down, but when NJ plays bad he says its because Florida outplayed them.
I watch pretty much all of NJ games and there are nights where you wonder If the team forgot that theres a game that night, its maybe like that for all teams. But to say florida dominated everygame accept the one they lost 5-2 because the team didnt show up, when really every game has been close games, hell NJ outshot florida for most of the games some people will say NJ outplayed Florida just could not score.
We won the series 2-1-1 the only incontrovertible statement in that regard.

And what will it mean in playoffs? Squat.

I think it'll make a great 7 game series, for many reasons. Personally 2...
I love brodeur and want to see him in the playoffs live.
I hate The bore he made me miserable for 3 years.

It's a great matchup.

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Inside so our the Devils, because come playoffs its a new game meaning stats or records mean nothing, you need a deep roster to win rounds. Trust me ive seen 1st in the division Nj teams go into the playoffs and lose first round because we didnt have the depth.
Florida could be a playoff team but they do not have Forward depth, defence is young and dont really have the goalies to steal them a round or 2.
Im not saying this to knock on the Panthers they have a bright future but not this year.
You can say there have been upsets, MTL 2 years ago, EDM going to the finals etc but Florida does not have a Pronger or a Halak.
And I've seen Matteau score in OT ...so I've seen a lot my friend.

I'm not saying this to knock the devils but we have more forward line depth, better d, and 10x a better coach.


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We won the series 2-1-1 the only incontrovertible statement in that regard.

And what will it mean in playoffs? Squat.

I think it'll make a great 7 game series, for many reasons. Personally 2...
I love brodeur and want to see him in the playoffs live.
I hate The bore he made me miserable for 3 years.

It's a great matchup.



And I've seen Matteau score in OT ...so I've seen a lot my friend.

I'm not saying this to knock the devils but we have more forward line depth, better d, and 10x a better coach.
Im going to stop right there because NJ has 1 of the better forward depth in the league and if you think Flo has better Forwards theres no point to go on and i wont even get into coaching

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I'm not saying this to knock the devils but we have more forward line depth, better d, and 10x a better coach.
Better forward depth, better defense and a 10 times better coach yet NJ has more points in a tougher division with average goaltending. Hell, Zajac will probably start the series in a 4th line role. How Florida has better offensive depth is puzzling to me.

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Better forward depth, better defense and a 10 times better coach yet NJ has more points in a tougher division with average goaltending.
Agreed with all but I would never call Marty average, it's as much blasphemy as calling Mariano mediocre.

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Agreed with all but I would never call Marty average, it's as much blasphemy as calling Mariano mediocre.
.908 sv% is below average....enough said.

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The coaching can't really be argued IMO, due to the fact that DeBoer wasn't exactly amazingly successful in Florida. It's just a matter of where it fits.

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