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Better Offensively: Dubinsky vs. Hagelin

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Brandon Dubinsky 13 17.33%
Carl Hagelin 62 82.67%
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03-16-2012, 12:58 PM
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I'd take Hagelin any day. His speed will make him useful even if he hits slumps and he has as much work ethics as anyone. He brings it every shift. Dubinsky on the other hand, has been very streaky his entire career, where he can turn invisible for months in a row. This hasn't changed much at all.
It changed this year, he hasn't been streaky this year, he's been consistently bad.

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03-16-2012, 02:24 PM
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Hagelin only played about half this season, if. But He has what Dubinsky lacks: Speed and tremendous ethic.

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Hagelin only played about half this season, if. But He has what Dubinsky lacks: Speed and tremendous ethic.
Hockey IQ is what he has that Dubinsky lacks. Hagelin knows exactly where to be, what to do and who he is as a hockey player.

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i think ppl who question Dubis work ethic are clueless imho. Dubi always seems to give his max effort. he just doesnt always play smart. There's a big difference. Dubis biggest problem is between his ears, not in his chest. kid is a warrior. i like dubi a lot. i just dont think hes played smart this season. dumb play=demotion. demotion=crappier linemates. crappier linemates=lower production.

Dubis numbers, in the past, were more about what his linemates did than him. he WAS an excellent filler player. you could put him next to an elite player, and he wouldnt hurt that play, that player would elevate his game.

like if you put Hagelin with Gabby and Richards, they are elevating his play. However if you put Hagelin with Rupp and Boyle, he's going to be a 4th liner incapable of raising their play.

Dubi used to be the same way...except now, you cant even do that because of how dumb hes played.

i wonder how much his contract is weighing on him. he makes a ton of money, and isnt producing...every game, i bet, wears on him more. he loves being a Ranger...he puts a lot of pressure on himself. the more he tries, the worse he plays because he tries to become what hes not. as skill player. he needs to be the supplemental player who does the dirty work FOR the skilled players.

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03-16-2012, 02:44 PM
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Hagelin has the ability to always be in the right spot. That, together with his speed and passing, makes him a very complete player, despite his young age. Dubinsky has a lot of talent, but for some reason he doesn't show it.

At this stage, I would pick Hagelin. I think in a year or 2 he will surpass Dubi permanently

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I didn't vote. There is no comparison between Corvette and Mack truck. it depends what you need. Hags is a speedy sniper, while Dubi is a Power Forward. Hagelin is St.Louis of the Rangers. Dubi was supposed to be LeCavalier for Torts although he doesn't size up to Vinny (Nash should have been). Richards - is Richards. Lundqvist -Boolin. That is how the good team is constructed. You need both types for offense, production numbers guessing is a waste of time, they do not matter as much. Sure, if you play Fantasy it does, but I would just ban it.

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03-16-2012, 02:56 PM
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I think Hagelin is better based purely on the fact that he's much more creative with the puck than Dubi. His ability to read the play along the boards and make plays is very, very good. Dubinsky has a bigger frame and can grind it out a bit better (creating some chances for himself and linemates), but overall, I think he's limited as to how much creativity he has with the puck.

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03-16-2012, 03:33 PM
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When Kreider joins the team they need to sit him down and show him tapes of Hagelin's play without the puck.

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