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03-14-2012, 01:18 AM
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I also don't think Stoll will leave California in general since his wife is an actress. I'm willing to bet that's the reason he was dealt to LA in the first place.

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I also don't think Stoll will leave California in general since his wife is an actress. I'm willing to bet that's the reason he was dealt to LA in the first place.
Does he have a new wife? I know he was with Rachel Hunter but he called off the wedding.

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I recently looked at the hockey pool magazine I bought before the season started and it had Cormier slotted on our third line THIS year.

I wouldn't want to get rid of any of the GST line. Not just because of what they do on the ice, but what they do for the community. Slater is the best.

If Cormier is ready, have him play on the third line.
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I think Cormier is being groomed to take over #3 C duties once Antropov's contract expires. However, I'm afraid he's going to become a victim of numbers next year, given that Miettinen and Gagnon are signed for next year.

Looking ahead to 2013, this is what I would hope our lines look like:

Ladd-Little-Wheeler
Kane-Burmistrov-______
Klingberg-Cormier-______
______-______-______

Guys like Slater, Glass, Wellwood, Fehr could all be re-signed/qualified, but the above players are the ones I feel will definitely be playing those positions.
The scenario is if Cormier is indeed ready for the NHL but not ready to be counted on to lead a 3rd line next year.

I'm just putting out a scenario where possibly Slater could be the #3C with Antro, and Cormier could slot into the #4C with Glass and Thorburn. It would be a lot easier for Cormier to be the #4C if his main responsibility is to take faceoffs, be physical, and play good defense. If Cormier is put on to the 3rd line, he's going to have to do those things, AND be counted on to chip in offensively.

And don't know how moving Slater to possibly the 3rd line takes him away from the community.

WJG, I also think Cormier is probably thought of as a future #3C. But is he ready for it next year? I also don't put a lot of stock into Gagnon having a 1 way contract. TNSE isn't going to keep him in the NHL over a better player because of 525K.

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Urgh. Stoll really sucks. He wins faceoffs...and that's it. He has a big shot from the point that can't hit the net. He is average AT VERY BEST defensively, has no creativity, has not offensive instincts, does not hit and has lost his seemingly lost his PK and shot blocking ability. Not gritty, doesn't drive the net, doesn't win board battles, is not fast. He really adds nothing anymore. DO NOT WANT. AT ALL. (Just a disclaimer, I am also a Kings fan so I watch him play ALOT).
Stoll has been absolutely useless since leaving Edmonton. I agree. No thanks to him.

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If Chevy doesn't resign Wellwood I'll be made. He's my favourite Jet.

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If Chevy doesn't resign Wellwood I'll be made. He's my favourite Jet.
I'm pretty sure Wellwood will be resigned by the Jets, and my guess is in something like 2.5 M for 2 years. He has spent his career bouncing around with never really establishing any stability. The Jets have provided this and I think you will see some loyalty comming back.

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Ladd-Little-Wheeler
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That line would be pretty dirty.

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I'd like to see Michael Ryder in a jets uniform...but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

It's too bad, because he'd really round out the second line and add more depth on the wing.

I think he's a RW, but don't quote me on that.

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03-16-2012, 08:33 AM
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There is a thread on the trade boards about Patric Hornqvist.

It's a hypothetical situation where Radulov comes back and the Preds need to make room and shed salary. I think Hornqvist would be a great fit as our #2RW with Kane and Burmistrov. He is like a Holmstrom in that his bread and butter is going into the dirty areas and causing havoc in front of the net.

I don't know what it would take to get him, but in a situation where he was available, and for the right price I would certainly be interested.

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There is a thread on the trade boards about Patric Hornqvist.

It's a hypothetical situation where Radulov comes back and the Preds need to make room and shed salary. I think Hornqvist would be a great fit as our #2RW with Kane and Burmistrov. He is like a Holmstrom in that his bread and butter is going into the dirty areas and causing havoc in front of the net.

I don't know what it would take to get him, but in a situation where he was available, and for the right price I would certainly be interested.
I'd be a fan of that.

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There is a thread on the trade boards about Patric Hornqvist.

It's a hypothetical situation where Radulov comes back and the Preds need to make room and shed salary. I think Hornqvist would be a great fit as our #2RW with Kane and Burmistrov. He is like a Holmstrom in that his bread and butter is going into the dirty areas and causing havoc in front of the net.

I don't know what it would take to get him, but in a situation where he was available, and for the right price I would certainly be interested.
yes yes and more yes!

I"m a huge Hornqvist fan. He doesn't have amazing finish but he's pretty smart on the ice and as stated, a good o-zone work horse. I think he'd be the perfect compliment to the burmi kane duo.


and he was the last pick in his draft! everyone loves a dark horse!

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There is a thread on the trade boards about Patric Hornqvist.

It's a hypothetical situation where Radulov comes back and the Preds need to make room and shed salary. I think Hornqvist would be a great fit as our #2RW with Kane and Burmistrov. He is like a Holmstrom in that his bread and butter is going into the dirty areas and causing havoc in front of the net.

I don't know what it would take to get him, but in a situation where he was available, and for the right price I would certainly be interested.
I was going to post something about this. I doubt we could match or beat or other teams offers. Most of them were offering a 1st + prospect, which I don't see the Jets doing. If we could do something like Klingberg/Cormier + 2013 2nd + another mid rounder in 2012/2013?

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I'm pretty sure Wellwood will be resigned by the Jets, and my guess is in something like 2.5 M for 2 years. He has spent his career bouncing around with never really establishing any stability. The Jets have provided this and I think you will see some loyalty comming back.
I don't disagree, but the fact that he's finally broken out offensively means that he'll be an attractive commodity on the free agent market and Wellwood probably knows it.

Players with similar numbers (~20 goals, ~50 points) have been signed/re-signed to some crazy deals over the last year. As a free agent, there's a chance Wellwood could get 4+ million/year if a team is desperate enough.

I hope he re-signs though.

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I'm pretty sure Wellwood will be resigned by the Jets, and my guess is in something like 2.5 M for 2 years. He has spent his career bouncing around with never really establishing any stability. The Jets have provided this and I think you will see some loyalty comming back.
I agree that he'll be looking for a longer term on a contract but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be from the Jets. If the Jets offer him 2 years and another team offers him 4, there's no reason for him not to move one more time and get an extra 2 years on the deal. I doubt he has put down serious roots in Winnipeg since he was only on a one year deal anyways.

However I hope he stays. 2.5M a year for 2 years sounds like a decent deal.

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I heard Welly mention in an interview recently that this has been his favorite year of professional hockey. I hope we can land him but would not want to go past 2 years on an offer. I assume as UFA this summer he is going to get an offer that will have all of us shaking our heads. I hope it happens and we get him back but its business so if he gets an insane offer we can't match then I will be happy for Kyle...... let’s see how the chips fall.

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I heard Welly mention in an interview recently that this has been his favorite year of professional hockey. I hope we can land him but would not want to go past 2 years on an offer. I assume as UFA this summer he is going to get an offer that will have all of us shaking our heads. I hope it happens and we get him back but its business so if he gets an insane offer we can't match then I will be happy for Kyle...... let’s see how the chips fall.
Yep, I agree. You really can't blame guys for taking the best offer out there. It's admirable to accept a lower offer due to loyalty, hometown discount, or loving the org. but bottom line is most NHL'ers only have a few years to maximize their earning potential.

I sure hope Kyle stays here but there will be interest in him this summer for sure.

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I was going to post something about this. I doubt we could match or beat or other teams offers. Most of them were offering a 1st + prospect, which I don't see the Jets doing. If we could do something like Klingberg/Cormier + 2013 2nd + another mid rounder in 2012/2013?
Nashville's best play would be to wait out the July 1st bonanza and then try and move him to a team that missed out on the elite FA wingers/Nash. I could see the Jets making a play for him if they can shore up other areas via UFA market. Mathematically speaking a pick in the 15-30 range has a 1/3 chance of working out while a picks 30-60 are 1/5 and picks 60-90 are around 1/7 with the Jets 3 2nds and 2 3rds. If Chevy feels that acquiring Hornqvist will put the Jets into the top 14 in the league then moving their 2013 1st isn't really a big deal. NSH would be more inclined to move him to a eastern team and the Jets would have an attractive pick based on this years performance so I think they could field a competitive offer.

Kane/Little/Wheeler
Ladd/Burmi/Hornqvist
???/???/Antro
G/S/T

Is a solid lineup depending on Burmi's progression and who fills in those question marks. If the cost is a 1st and a prospect in the #6-#10 range on the depth chart I would do it. Especially if that 3rd line is already filled out.

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Yep, I agree. You really can't blame guys for taking the best offer out there. It's admirable to accept a lower offer due to loyalty, hometown discount, or loving the org. but bottom line is most NHL'ers only have a few years to maximize their earning potential.

I sure hope Kyle stays here but there will be interest in him this summer for sure.
I think any offers Wellwood gets will all be around the same price range. IMO he may give the Jets a bit of a loyalty discount. For a guy like Wellwood, who has bounced around as much as he has and never really had a chance to lay down roots, the Jets have given him this. You never know what the situation is with another team. Maybe the fit isn't good and you are back bouncing around. He might not want to risk this at this point in his career.

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I think any offers Wellwood gets will all be around the same price range. IMO he may give the Jets a bit of a loyalty discount. For a guy like Wellwood, who has bounced around as much as he has and never really had a chance to lay down roots, the Jets have given him this. You never know what the situation is with another team. Maybe the fit isn't good and you are back bouncing around. He might not want to risk this at this point in his career.
The market could inflate for him with a team overpaying big time but I can't see teams giving him a ton of years if the Jets are willing to go to 3 years I can see that being very enticing to him at this point in his career. 6.75/3 might not be the best yearly average he gets offered but it defiantly could be the most overall dollars a team is willing to commit. Wellwood/Cormier/Antropov would be a decent 3rd line once Anto moves on you can replace him with a solid defensive winger at around 2 mil and have a very cost effective 3rd line.

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I think the Jets would want to re-sign Chris Mason for next season, and possibly beyond. However, does he necessarily want to re-sign with the Jets? Could he be a bit ticked off that he didn't play in the most recent back-to-back games (Vancouver, Calgary)? Might he be looking somewhere else this summer for more opportunity to play (Columbus, Toronto come to mind)? I'm curious to see if he gets a start this weekend, in either Washington or Nashville.

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I think the Jets would want to re-sign Chris Mason for next season, and possibly beyond. However, does he necessarily want to re-sign with the Jets? Could he be a bit ticked off that he didn't play in the most recent back-to-back games (Vancouver, Calgary)? Might he be looking somewhere else this summer for more opportunity to play (Columbus, Toronto come to mind)? I'm curious to see if he gets a start this weekend, in either Washington or Nashville.
Defiantly think he wants to return, was very excited about the move and getting those pads says a lot. At his age I have to think years and stability are the priority 2.5/2 is what I would offer if he wants to go elsewhere that's to bad but he is entirely replaceable

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I think the Jets would want to re-sign Chris Mason for next season, and possibly beyond. However, does he necessarily want to re-sign with the Jets? Could he be a bit ticked off that he didn't play in the most recent back-to-back games (Vancouver, Calgary)? Might he be looking somewhere else this summer for more opportunity to play (Columbus, Toronto come to mind)? I'm curious to see if he gets a start this weekend, in either Washington or Nashville.
I think we'll see Mason re-signed, and I think he'll want to stay here.

At this stage in his career, he's not likely to get a reliable starter job, and there are quite a few serviceable UFA back-up goalies on the market this year (http://www.capgeek.com/free_agents.p...G&fa_type_id=2) so he doesn't have a ton of leverage there.

He's repeatedly made it clear how much he loves playing in a Canadian city, how that was always his dream and how much he likes being a Jet. I know Chris is a real competitor and craves ice-time, but he's also a mature guy who's been around the NHL block and seems rock-solid in the back-up role he has here. He gets it, right?

I guess that if the Jets offer him, he stays, and I hope they do -- no need to rush our keeper prospects, and since Pavs is still so young it's really valuable having such a big personality and experienced pro like Mase to help bring him up.

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From what I hear Mase has a great work ethic so he is a great guy to have around Pavs .....if his price is decent sign him ASAP!

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I sure hope Kyle stays here but there will be interest in him this summer for sure.
i agree....im nervous that he is going to get a ridiculous columbus blue jackets offer....i really like him and he would be a big hole to fill.

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About Tanner Glass wishing about the Jets fans not being mean, I think hes probably going to leave, I think we could move Ladd to that line L-S-T line, not bad, he needs to be on the third line, but I mean if we sign Parise, we could have our problems solved, that or we trade Kane and get alot back, Draft Collberg or Scheifele makes and draft a guy we can wait patiently for.

Parise-Little/Scheifele-Wheeler
Kane-Burmi-Collberg/Little/Klingberg
Ladd-Slater-Thorburn
Cormier-Klingberg/Fehr-Machecek

Enstrom-Byfuglien
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I was thinking if we traded Kane to Toronto and get Kadri, Schenn, Lupul and 1st 2012 (Dreaming)

Kadri-Little-Wheeler
Kane-Burmi-Lupul
Ladd-Slater-Thorburn
Cormier-Machecek-Klingberg

Enstrom-Byfuglien
Clitsome-Bogosian
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