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03-15-2012, 03:25 PM
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Decent return for two stupid ass players. Can't really complain about any aspect of the deal, aside from Blatche still being around.
Guess they needed at least one of them to help with the tanking


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Like the trade. As mentioned, getting two of the bigger knuckleheads out of the room and bringing in a respected veteran. Pleased.

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Sure we couldn't have gotten a sandwich for Grunfelds expiring contract?

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03-15-2012, 04:14 PM
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I'm actually somewhat optimistic about next season now, assuming they get a real coach and a better GM.

They'll get a stud in the draft, and need to address the 2 and 3 either with the pick or in free agency, but I like the Wall-Booker-Nene combo.

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They are lined up for the 2nd pick now...lets say they stay there...Andre Drummond? A front court of Drummond, Nene, and Booker sounds good to me.

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Does March Madness every year solidify anyone else's belief that Basketball is the really boring?

Basketball would be so much more interesting if there was such a thing as power forwards in the hockey sense.

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Does March Madness every year solidify anyone else's belief that Basketball is the really boring?

Basketball would be so much more interesting if there was such a thing as power forwards in the hockey sense.
Um, no. March Madness is anything but boring.

Is there any other sport that you'd watch a game involving a team with the profile of Murray State?

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Um, no. March Madness is anything but boring.

Is there any other sport that you'd watch a game involving a team with the profile of Murray State?
It wasn't exciting watching two players collide going for a ball and the guy who flails the most getting the shot.

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They are lined up for the 2nd pick now...lets say they stay there...Andre Drummond? A front court of Drummond, Nene, and Booker sounds good to me.
I wouldn't touch Drummond with a top-5 pick. He's got tools, but no fire or heart. His no-show against Louisville was probably the most pathetic performance by a supposed top prospect in any sport that I've ever seen.

Assuming Davis goes #1, I bet it's between Thomas Robinson, MKG, and Harrison Barnes. I'm a bigger believer in Barnes, but I kinda doubt Ted lets the GM pass on a DC native.

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I wouldn't touch Drummond with a top-5 pick. He's got tools, but no fire or heart. His no-show against Louisville was probably the most pathetic performance by a supposed top prospect in any sport that I've ever seen.

Assuming Davis goes #1, I bet it's between Thomas Robinson, MKG, and Harrison Barnes. I'm a bigger believer in Barnes, but I kinda doubt Ted lets the GM pass on a DC native.
Ah, didnt know that about Drummond. Didn't watch the Big East tourney this year.

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03-15-2012, 04:49 PM
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Barnes would fit a need for sure even if Wall isn't a fan of him, heh. Just don't think he'll be a star. Drummund seems like another project. If the Bullets somehow get the #1 taking Davis is a no brainer. Love Kidd-Gilchrist though he doesn't have a great outside shot and their are some rumblings he might stay in Kentucky.

Guess I would go in descending order who I'd like the see them land at the draft.

Davis
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03-15-2012, 05:09 PM
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Ah, didnt know that about Drummond. Didn't watch the Big East tourney this year.
Yeah, Drummond's energy level makes Andray Blatche look spry. Do not want.

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Barnes would fit a need for sure even if Wall isn't a fan of him, heh. Just don't think he'll be a star. Drummund seems like another project. If the Bullets somehow get the #1 taking Davis is a no brainer. Love Kidd-Gilchrist though he doesn't have a great outside shot and their are some rumblings he might stay in Kentucky.

Guess I would go in descending order who I'd like the see them land at the draft.

Davis
Kidd-Gilchrist
Robinson
Barnes
Beal
I could see Barnes being an alpha scorer in the Reggie Miller mold--does most of his damage from the outside and from pull-ups, rather than from attacking the rim. Though his development of a post game this year is really intriguing. That could really add another dimension to his game. Both Barnes and MKG have limitations that keep them from being a 2 at the next level. Barnes lacks the handle and passing ability, while MKG lacks the shot and passing ability. I just think Barnes is a much fit than MKG with Wall. I wouldn't want 2/3 of the starting perimeter players to be terrible outside shooters.

My list would be similar to yours:

Davis
Barnes
MKG
Beal
Robinson/Sullinger

I don't know what to think about Robinson, honestly. Watching him play, I'm not sure he offers any more than Booker. Booker might have even been a better player in college, when you consider their supporting casts and level of competition.

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03-15-2012, 05:21 PM
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Ernie Grunfeld needs to get fired. Don't get me wrong I like the idea of getting rid of two idiots, but bringing in a 29 year old, injury-prone player who just signed a 5 year $67mil contract doesn't make sense for the direction of this team.

Draft-wise:
-Sullinger/Robinson
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-Beal
-Barnes

Realistic options. Sullinger has impressed me of late, Robinson trending downward. None of the listed have character concerns, especially not Robinson and MKG.

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03-15-2012, 05:25 PM
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There are plenty of things to criticize Grunfeld about. This trade isn't one of them.

I'm not sure how getting better doesn't make sense for the direction of the team. Nene won't hurt the tank efforts this season, and will help more than McGee in the competitive efforts next year.

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Sure he's a better competitor than McGee, but he's not a great rebounder or a good shot blocker. He's 29 and will be 30 by the start of next year and we'll have him until he's 35. He should mesh well in the locker room though, which probably ended up being the key reason for the trade.

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Say "no" to Sullinger. He has bust written all over him.

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Say "no" to Sullinger. He has bust written all over him.
He has a consistent mid-range jumpshot and rebounds very well, not to mention advanced post moves. Wasn't sold on him earlier in the year, but he's impressed.

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03-15-2012, 06:42 PM
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Young and McGee gone? Fabulous. Just need Baltch to get the amnesty this off season and all will be well.

I would add new GM to that, but Grunfeld is going nowhere.

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03-15-2012, 07:35 PM
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Sure he's a better competitor than McGee, but he's not a great rebounder or a good shot blocker. He's 29 and will be 30 by the start of next year and we'll have him until he's 35. He should mesh well in the locker room though, which probably ended up being the key reason for the trade.
He's a much more intelligent and efficient player than McGee. And for all of McGee's big shotblocking numbers, he's a bad defensive player. His on/off rebounding and fg percentage numbers are telling.

Again, the team is better with Nene than with McGee.

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He's a much more intelligent and efficient player than McGee. And for all of McGee's big shotblocking numbers, he's a bad defensive player. His on/off rebounding and fg percentage numbers are telling.

Again, the team is better with Nene than with McGee.
Addition by subtraction.

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Exhibit B as to why the Wizards need to avoid Drummond like the plague.

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Exhibit B as to why the Wizards need to avoid Drummond like the plague.
Yeah, I watched the majority of that game. F that dude.

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They just showed a Wizards bench shot ... I'd completely forgotten that Lewis was still on this team.

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One lesson already learned: When the 10-year veteran has the ball in his hands, keep your head up. Nene’s ability to distribute is proving rather surprising to his new teammates. Oh, not because he can pass; that was a given. Rather that he does, willingly. The center position is no longer a spot where ball movement goes to die.

“He hit a couple of people in the head making the baseline cut,” John Wall said. “They’re not used to getting the pass back.”
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Love getting Nene...hope this continues with the draft (basically drafting a HQ minded prospect) as well as free agency. Amnesty Blache seems assured.

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