Value of: Roberto Luongo

[sayheykid]

Originally Posted by Campoli2Burrows

Could a deal be worked out with Tampa sending Luongo for their 1st?

I would imagine not.

[NYVanfan]

Originally Posted by FLAMESFAN

Why are Canuck fans defending the contract as it is RIGHT NOW? That is not the issue. 6.7 mil/year is decent for him this year (He's about to turn 33), and maybe for another 2. I really don't see him being in the top half after he turns 35.

This is where the issue lies.

From 14-15, 15-16, 16-17 & 17-18 (he'll be 36-39 years old) he is still getting paid 6.7 million a year with a 5.3 million cap hit. That is a brutal stretch and I'd love to see someone defend that.

first there are out-clauses in that contract, one for the team and one for him, so it's not a locked NTC all the way..
second, found this on CBS:

"he's only 32 and already has over 300 wins, 55 shutouts, career GAA 2.5, career sv% .920, and he played half his career with the Panthers. If he continues at his current pace, and plays til he's 37 or so, he'll finish with similar (or better) numbers than Patrick Roy, Ed Belfour, dominik hasek, and grant fuhr, ALL of who are or will be in the HHOF. If he had played his whole career in a trap system, his numbers would be comparable, if not better than brodeur."

Those who are Alta fans, or Hawks, Bruins, etc will naturally have a bias, but if you play fantasy hockey (which is where I got this from), you'll have a pretty objective sense of his value. He is top 5-7 in the league, easily, if not 3-5. It is not a stretch to assume that he will still be playing at a high level at that stage in his career, a la Thomas or Brodeur. Gillis will not give him away.

What we really need is a premiere RHS Dman, but Malone, Connoly, 1st would get it done, maybe with Raymond coming the other way

[y2kcanucks]

Originally Posted by NYVanfan

first there are out-clauses in that contract, one for the team and one for him, so it's not a locked NTC all the way..
second, found this on CBS:

"he's only 32 and already has over 300 wins, 55 shutouts, career GAA 2.5, career sv% .920, and he played half his career with the Panthers. If he continues at his current pace, and plays til he's 37 or so, he'll finish with similar (or better) numbers than Patrick Roy, Ed Belfour, dominik hasek, and grant fuhr, ALL of who are or will be in the HHOF. If he had played his whole career in a trap system, his numbers would be comparable, if not better than brodeur."

Those who are Alta fans, or Hawks, Bruins, etc will naturally have a bias, but if you play fantasy hockey (which is where I got this from), you'll have a pretty objective sense of his value. He is top 5-7 in the league, easily, if not 3-5. It is not a stretch to assume that he will still be playing at a high level at that stage in his career, a la Thomas or Brodeur. Gillis will not give him away.

What we really need is a premiere RHS Dman, but Malone, Connoly, 1st would get it done, maybe with Raymond coming the other way

As much as I don't want to move Luongo, I would certainly accept that package for him (or Schneider). That 1 is going to bring back a good prospect, and Connolly is a great prospect already. Malone would be useful on our 3rd line.

[jester00]

Originally Posted by y2kcanucks

As much as I don't want to move Luongo, I would certainly accept that package for him (or Schneider). That 1 is going to bring back a good prospect, and Connolly is a great prospect already. Malone would be useful on our 3rd line.

Wow. So you'd accept Malone, Connolly, and a 1st for Luongo now? When I proposed Purcell, Connolly, and Det's 1st in the Canucks forum you ***** yourself saying the package is garbarge.

Unless your assuming that the 1st is TB's, in which case it would never happen. Not for Schneider or Luongo for that matter. Not if Connolly is in the package anyways.

[y2kcanucks]

Originally Posted by jester00

Wow. So you'd accept Malone, Connolly, and a 1st for Luongo now? When I proposed Purcell, Connolly, and Det's 1st in the Canucks forum you ***** yourself saying the package is garbarge.

Unless your assuming that the 1st is TB's, in which case it would never happen. Not for Schneider or Luongo for that matter. Not if Connolly is in the package anyways.

Yes I'm assuming it's TB's first.

Also I like Malone better than Purcell for this team. The Canucks already have a bunch of soft players in the top 9. Adding Purcell won't help.

[jester00]

Originally Posted by y2kcanucks

Yes I'm assuming it's TB's first.

Also I like Malone better than Purcell for this team. The Canucks already have a bunch of soft players in the top 9. Adding Purcell won't help.

Fair enough then. But I still can't see TB giving up Connolly and their 1st (currently 7th overall) for either of our goalies. I wish, but highly unlikely.