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03-19-2012, 09:21 PM
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probably should have been 5-year..another Tambo ****up.

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Best goalie in the WHL!

With Roy playing very well this year and Bunz being dominating in spite of his WJHC snub and DUI incident, it lookis like things are looking up for goaltending prospects.
Yeah, but unfortunately they take so damn long to develop.

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I reckon next year Roy will be the backup in OKC and Bunz will be the starter in the ECHL. Khabibulin will be traded for a pick next year at the trade deadline.

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probably should have been 5-year..another Tambo ****up.
I am not sure if you are serious....ELC can't be longer then 3 years

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This is fantastic news. I'm really excited about this kid's progress.

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03-20-2012, 12:42 AM
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It's annoying to watch those, but he stops a lot he shouldn't be able to. It all evens out. His numbers aren't bad
His numbers are bad though. 34th in GAA and 29th in sv%. Part of it is obviously defense giving up too many quality chances, but the fact of the matter is Dubnyk's numbers are simply not good enough to indicate he's going he's capable of being a #1.

I don't know if we know what a good goalie is anymore. This team hasn't had a goalie in the top 15 in GAA and sv% since 1999-2000 with Tommy Salo. The next closest thing was Dwayne Roloson in 05-06 but he spent 3/4 of the season playing for the Wild.

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Who is the Oilers goalie coach ?

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03-20-2012, 01:11 AM
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Who is the Oilers goalie coach ?
Freddy Chabot.

http://eliteprospects.com/staff.php?staff=1151

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03-20-2012, 04:01 AM
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I like this signing a lot. He's a confident kid, who keeps improving. Best young, goaltending prospect in the system currently.

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03-20-2012, 10:39 AM
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Dubnyk has a .912, which is considered average around the league.
Perhaps this is one of those instances where the numbers don't tell the story.

For example, let's say for discussion purposes that the mendoza line of save percentage for goaltenders is 0.900 (historically this has been accepted).

Anyways, If we were to take a look at a couple other goaltenders that are in the area of where Dubnyk ranks in save % and compare them to Dubnyk I think you would get the gist of why many people don't think Dubnyk is consistent enough to be considered a starter for a team that needs reliable, decent goaltending.

For the 3 goalies I took a look at;

They had save percentages of;

.913%, .912% and .906%

Games played;

56, 39 and 52

Games they finished with save % at 0.900 or better;

35, 14 and 30

for percentage of games above mendoza line of;

67%, 35% and 57%

Probably also bares pointing out that the other 2 guys have their teams securely in a playoff spot as well.

At any rate, what this shows me is that Dubnyk is capable of playing a high end game but is no where near consistent enough to be given the reigns as a starter. He is just good enough to help his stats. Similar to how his Jr career went as well.

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03-20-2012, 10:53 AM
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Perhaps this is one of those instances where the numbers don't tell the story.

For example, let's say for discussion purposes that the mendoza line of save percentage for goaltenders is 0.900 (historically this has been accepted).

Anyways, If we were to take a look at a couple other goaltenders that are in the area of where Dubnyk ranks in save % and compare them to Dubnyk I think you would get the gist of why many people don't think Dubnyk is consistent enough to be considered a starter for a team that needs reliable, decent goaltending.

For the 3 goalies I took a look at;

They had save percentages of;

.913%, .912% and .906%

Games played;

56, 39 and 52

Games they finished with save % at 0.900 or better;

35, 14 and 30

for percentage of games above mendoza line of;

67%, 35% and 57%

Probably also bares pointing out that the other 2 guys have their teams securely in a playoff spot as well.

At any rate, what this shows me is that Dubnyk is capable of playing a high end game but is no where near consistent enough to be given the reigns as a starter. He is just good enough to help his stats. Similar to how his Jr career went as well.
so 65% of dubnyks games he had a svp of less then .900? How well did he do in the 35% to bring the mean to a place above the .900 mark?

Consistency speaks to his full season stats, and they stand well above the .900 mark.

Also id like to point that no other goaltender in the league faces the quality of chances dubnyk does so often.

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03-20-2012, 11:28 AM
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so 65% of dubnyks games he had a svp of less then .900? How well did he do in the 35% to bring the mean to a place above the .900 mark?

Consistency speaks to his full season stats, and they stand well above the .900 mark.

Also id like to point that no other goaltender in the league faces the quality of chances dubnyk does so often.
You don't get it, YES for 35% of his starts the Oilers will get very good goaltending.

But they can expect well below average goaltending for 2 out of every 3 starts.

Is a team more likely to have success with consistent average goaltending or very good goaltending 1 out of every 3 games?

I think the numbers I posted suggest what the answer is considering Dubnyk kicks the hell out of the save percentage of the 3rd goalie I listed and yet the Oilers are the 2nd worse team in the league where as the other guys team is preparing for the playofs.

And arguing quality of chances is a fools quest if your trying to compare players from different teams. Any stat that rely's on different people giving their interpretations is garbage.

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03-20-2012, 11:28 AM
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Re-opened.

This thread is about Tyler Bunz and, to a lesser extent, our goaltending situation. Keep it on topic.


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03-20-2012, 11:40 AM
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I like Bunz as a long-term project, so I'm happy they got him locked into an ELC. I liked what I saw in the pre-season this year from him.

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