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03-19-2012, 09:48 PM
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Miikka Kiprusoff

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I just wanted to ask question about Miikka. I was just looking at contract situation(http://nhlnumbers.com/teams/CGY?year=2012) for Calgary Flames and I noticed Miikka's contract is going to end after 2013-2014 season, BUT his salary seems to take a huge dive after 2012-2013 season, so to my question, do you think he's going to retire after 2012-2013 season or do you think he's going to play for 1,5 million for one more year?

I'm mostly hoping for him to make comeback to TPS ASAP (his home team in Finland), because our team currently sucks so bad.. (Miikka is part owner of this team)

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I think he sticks around for as long as his play is NHL caliber, which I see being at least a few more years. Irving is going to start taking starts from him though.

Fun fact. Miikka is 22nd all time in NHL goalie wins despite playing far less games than most guys on the list. Assuming he leaves even after his contract is done, he'll probably get another 30ish wins, which would leave him 18th all time. I hope he sticks around for longer and moves even higher though.

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it should also be noted his NMC expires on July 1st.

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As long as he is an nhl calibre goalie and wants to be here then I want him to stay. But if he should ever want a chance at a cup I would not hold it against him and would be fine with him leaving. I don't think he will play in the nhl after his contract is over.

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I think he sticks around for as long as his play is NHL caliber, which I see being at least a few more years. Irving is going to start taking starts from him though.
Yeh, he's playing great again this year, at least stat-wise, haven't been able to watch many Calgary or any NHL games this year.

I'm sure he's good for couple more years in NHL, so no worries in that sense, but was just hoping for him to come home. (Actually I think Miikka is kind of guy who might do that IMO) He's great person, good values.

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it should also be noted his NMC expires on July 1st.
Would you trade him?

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03-19-2012, 10:00 PM
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I'm sure he's good for couple more years in NHL, so no worries in that sense, but was just hoping for him to come home. (Actually I think Miikka is kind of guy who might do that IMO) He's great person, good values.
I think you might get your wish and he will return home after next season. He's only owed $1 million with a $5.7 million cap hit, so it is very likely he will forgo that million bucks to stay home and finish his career in his native land, and give the Flames, or whoever, cap relief.

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03-19-2012, 10:25 PM
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I think you might get your wish and he will return home after next season. He's only owed $1 million with a $5.7 million cap hit, so it is very likely he will forgo that million bucks to stay home and finish his career in his native land, and give the Flames, or whoever, cap relief.
Aah great point. That's probably why I asked about this, but forgot.. lol

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Would you trade him?
Yes I would. I want to trade him July 1st. I think he will net a good return plus I think that Irving is ready to start at the NHL level and a Biron-type 1b goalie to platoon with would give us a good chance to win every night.

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Yes I would. I want to trade him July 1st. I think he will net a good return plus I think that Irving is ready to start at the NHL level and a Biron-type 1b goalie to platoon with would give us a good chance to win every night.
Agreed 110%. An Irving/Ramo tandem might work out good, could create some good competition for each other.

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Yes I would. I want to trade him July 1st. I think he will net a good return plus I think that Irving is ready to start at the NHL level and a Biron-type 1b goalie to platoon with would give us a good chance to win every night.
irving has really done nothing to show he's nhl ready. 7 starts this season with 3 wins and a gaa of 3.20 isn't exactly what i call ready to start in the nhl.

i think ramo is head and shoulders above irving at this point and we'd be better off rolling with him and irving as the back up if kiprusoff does get traded.

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Um, what? Leland Irving has a bad game in Boston (which is really not even his fault) which inflates his numbers. Here are the numbers for his other starts this season...

Florida: 2 Goals against, .951 SV%
Vancouver: 1 Goal against, .967 SV%
Ottawa: 4 Goals against, .918 SV%
Phoenix: 2 Goals against, .943 SV%
Anaheim: 3 goals against, .921 SV%
Edmonton: 3 Goals against, .880 SV%

I italicized the games against the Oilers and Sens as the only two games where his save percentage is below .920 ... Against Edmonton, he didn't have much support and against Ottawa he faced 49 shots.

The W-L-OTL record doesn't reflect his skill and that he is in fact NHL ready. I'd rather see him backing up Kipper next season than Karlsson. It would be better than constantly calling him up the day or two days before he plays a game in relief.

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Um, what? Leland Irving has a bad game in Boston (which is really not even his fault) which inflates his numbers. Here are the numbers for his other starts this season...

Florida: 2 Goals against, .951 SV%
Vancouver: 1 Goal against, .967 SV%
Ottawa: 4 Goals against, .918 SV%
Phoenix: 2 Goals against, .943 SV%
Anaheim: 3 goals against, .921 SV%
Edmonton: 3 Goals against, .880 SV%

I italicized the games against the Oilers and Sens as the only two games where his save percentage is below .920 ... Against Edmonton, he didn't have much support and against Ottawa he faced 49 shots.

The W-L-OTL record doesn't reflect his skill and that he is in fact NHL ready. I'd rather see him backing up Kipper next season than Karlsson. It would be better than constantly calling him up the day or two days before he plays a game in relief.
Irving is no longer waiver exempt next season, he will be in the NHL one way or another.

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irving has really done nothing to show he's nhl ready. 7 starts this season with 3 wins and a gaa of 3.20 isn't exactly what i call ready to start in the nhl.

i think ramo is head and shoulders above irving at this point and we'd be better off rolling with him and irving as the back up if kiprusoff does get traded.
Did u actually watch his games or merely looking at stats?

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I think he sticks around for as long as his play is NHL caliber, which I see being at least a few more years. Irving is going to start taking starts from him though.

Fun fact. Miikka is 22nd all time in NHL goalie wins despite playing far less games than most guys on the list. Assuming he leaves even after his contract is done, he'll probably get another 30ish wins, which would leave him 18th all time. I hope he sticks around for longer and moves even higher though
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Mostly has had a post lockout NHL career. His win totals are inflated. He'll be passed by many goaltenders over the years with the current so/ot system in place.

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