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View Poll Results: Which do you do armchair GMs?
Draft a franchise center + shift Desharnais to wing 33 17.84%
Draft a franchise winger + keep Desharnais at center 15 8.11%
Doesn't matter - draft BPA 137 74.05%
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03-21-2012, 01:19 PM
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Dumba train all aboard!

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649



If we keep dropping I would love to draft Reinhart also! The recent injuries to Galchenyuk are worrisome.
Anyways, I'll blindly agree with whoever Timmins picks !
That and the Yakupov factor as well.

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03-21-2012, 01:30 PM
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In the minors, we have no center depth, not to mention that the combination of DD, Pleks and Eller aren't championship calibre right now. Our wingers? MaxPac, Cole, Gionta, Gallagher and Kristo. Our center depth is far weaker than our wingers right now.
So much wrong with this...

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03-21-2012, 01:36 PM
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Dumba train all aboard!

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649



If we keep dropping I would love to draft Reinhart also! The recent injuries to Galchenyuk are worrisome.
Anyways, I'll blindly agree with whoever Timmins picks !
Agreed. Timmins is an excellent judge of character and talent and if they let him do his job, he'll pick right.

I also agree that Dumba is an exciting prospect although our needs are more up front, especially at the wing .

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03-21-2012, 01:38 PM
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Dumba train all aboard!

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649



If we keep dropping I would love to draft Reinhart also! The recent injuries to Galchenyuk are worrisome.
Anyways, I'll blindly agree with whoever Timmins picks !

This is Craig button's list. It's not the actual proffesional scout ranking's. It's just some washed up GM trying to stand out from the crowd by altering a few names around, who was only given the segment because the company he works for can't resist the opprtunity to create another idiotic play on words. Craig's list. HAHAhHAHAH

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03-21-2012, 01:53 PM
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In the minors, we have no center depth, not to mention that the combination of DD, Pleks and Eller aren't championship calibre right now. Our wingers? MaxPac, Cole, Gionta, Gallagher and Kristo. Our center depth is far weaker than our wingers right now.
Maybe in terms of prospects, but at the NHL level we are pretty deep at center...

Plekanec has had 2 seasons of 70 points, shown he can put up numbers while still being excellent defensively if given good wingers.

Desharnais has 55 points in 72 NHL games in just his second NHL season, he should finish with 60 or more.

Eller right now is #3 is 22 in his 2nd year, brings size and has put up 14 even strength goals playing on a 3rd line. With 2nd PP time he could be a 50 point guy.

All 3 are under 30, so center depth is not a big issue at the NHL level. In terms of prospects, LeBlanc could be an option though he probably profiles more as a RW, but he does both equally well. we could probably use a high end #1 guy but so could 15 or 16 other teams.

Our 3rd highest scoring winger right now on the roster is Moen with 16 points(Bourque has 23 with both teams). I would say short term wing is a bigger need.

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03-21-2012, 01:58 PM
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I do wonder why Grigorenko is dropping so much in some people's estimation.

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BPA, it might be a while till we get chance to draft so high, so make the best of it IMO.

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I do wonder why Grigorenko is dropping so much in some people's estimation.
Same here and IMHO that's a mistake. He's one of the youngest players in the upcoming draft and this is his 1st season in NA, he'll get much better in the coming years.

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03-21-2012, 02:14 PM
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I'm sure they'll do what they do every year. They'll make a list of all the players from 1-??? That they'd like to draft. As the names of players they want start to get picked, they'll cross out the names on their list. Whomever is the highest ranked player on their list that hasn't been picked is who'll they'll end up taking. It all depends on if Columbus and Edmonton (who've both said they'd be willing to trade their picks) do ahead of them. If we finish 3rd and Yakopov and Grigorenko are gone it may be best to draft Dumba or Murray. Who knows. All I know is we should get a hell of a player this year a long as we keep losing!

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03-21-2012, 02:21 PM
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Here's an issue for you. We have two needs in the top 6 - a big center and a top 6 winger. So here's the question:

Would you prefer to draft a franchise center (Grigorenko / Galchenyuk) and shift Desharnais to wing, or draft a franchise winger (Forsberg) and keep Desharnais at center?

What's our bigger draft need going forward?

Mods, feel free to merge with the draft thread.
I'd take the bpa. I'd hope that it would be a center though. We actually have some center depth but no true number one and we've needed this for years.

As for DD, let him sit between Cole and Max. The new kid probably shouldn't even join us next year anyway.

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Reality is, likely not many players with a sure fire franchise player tag at this point. So it's an odd question because of that. If it were a different draft and say a #1 center is available or say a ray bourque or lidstrom over a #1C, I choose the franchise D. I mean, it's all relative to how you far into the franchise player tag said player is. If we're talking about a generational talent, I say goodbye to the #1C option. obviously, that isn't likely the case here so yah, I guess if we're in a spot and a #1C is available...take him, unless yakupov is available.

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03-21-2012, 02:23 PM
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DD should not be a factor in who we draft. Fer the love of Pete.

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Maybe in terms of prospects, but at the NHL level we are pretty deep at center...
Plekanec has had 2 seasons of 70 points, shown he can put up numbers while still being excellent defensively if given good wingers.

Desharnais has 55 points in 72 NHL games in just his second NHL season, he should finish with 60 or more.

Eller right now is #3 is 22 in his 2nd year, brings size and has put up 14 even strength goals playing on a 3rd line. With 2nd PP time he could be a 50 point guy.

All 3 are under 30, so center depth is not a big issue at the NHL level. In terms of prospects, LeBlanc could be an option though he probably profiles more as a RW, but he does both equally well. we could probably use a high end #1 guy but so could 15 or 16 other teams.

Our 3rd highest scoring winger right now on the roster is Moen with 16 points(Bourque has 23 with both teams). I would say short term wing is a bigger need.
Worst in the NHL

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Im not gonna vote because I wouldnt have a problem with a franchise centerman or winger. But im also not sold on taking a dman so we will have to see. I really like Forsbergs game but I also like Yakupov obviously and I am getting more into Grigorenko by the day. If we end up with one of Forsberg, Yak, Grigs or Gal I will be happy. (Assuming Gal is healthy)

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So much wrong with this...
Organizationally? No way.

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Out of our top 5 forwards in points, 3 of them are centres.

Pick a winger>centre!!!!!!!!!

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Worst in the NHL
Is that a joke? Not a chance we're the worst at centre depth.

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A lot of signs are pointing to Forsberg.

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Reguardless of who we pick move Eller onto Plekanecs wing. The time has come. That solves one problem and whoever we pick after can learn on the 3rd line with no pressure.

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Organizationally? No way.
Ok, count 'em down. Let's see who these great wingers are that we have so much of.

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Ok, count 'em down. Let's see who these great wingers are that we have so much of.
If you consider our prospects, a lot better looking than centers. See Gallagher, Kristo and Leblanc namely. Who are these centers you're so all about? There's nobody coming from Hamilton other than Engqvist.

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Reguardless of who we pick move Eller onto Plekanecs wing. The time has come. That solves one problem and whoever we pick after can learn on the 3rd line with no pressure.
Why not try Leblanc as the third line center?

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole

Forsberg-Plekanec-Eller

Moen-Leblanc-Bourque

Geoffrion-Nokelainen-White

Darche/Staubitz/Schultz/Dumont/Engqvist/Palushaj


Markov-Emelin

Gorges-Subban

Stuart (sign from Detroit) - Kaberle/Diaz/physical free agent

Leave Tinordi and Beaulieu in the AHL for two years

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Why not try Leblanc as the third line center?

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole

Forsberg-Plekanec-Eller

Moen-Leblanc-Bourque

Geoffrion-Nokelainen-White

Darche/Staubitz/Schultz/Dumont/Engqvist/Palushaj


Markov-Emelin

Gorges-Subban

Stuart (sign from Detroit) - Kaberle/Diaz/physical free agent

Leave Tinordi and Beaulieu in the AHL for two years
You forgot Gionta. He will be on Pleks wing and Eller will be perfect with those two.

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You forgot Gionta. He will be on Pleks wing and Eller will be perfect with those two.
Haha oh yeah, wow, he has been out too long.

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Why not try Leblanc as the third line center?

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole

Forsberg-Plekanec-Eller

Moen-Leblanc-Bourque

Geoffrion-Nokelainen-White

Darche/Staubitz/Schultz/Dumont/Engqvist/Palushaj


Markov-Emelin

Gorges-Subban

Stuart (sign from Detroit) - Kaberle/Diaz/physical free agent

Leave Tinordi and Beaulieu in the AHL for two years
We could try Price at defense too

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