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View Poll Results: Which do you do armchair GMs?
Draft a franchise center + shift Desharnais to wing 33 17.84%
Draft a franchise winger + keep Desharnais at center 15 8.11%
Doesn't matter - draft BPA 137 74.05%
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03-21-2012, 05:42 PM
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Why not try Leblanc as the third line center?

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole

Forsberg-Plekanec-Eller

Moen-Leblanc-Bourque

Geoffrion-Nokelainen-White

Darche/Staubitz/Schultz/Dumont/Engqvist/Palushaj


Markov-Emelin

Gorges-Subban

Stuart (sign from Detroit) - Kaberle/Diaz/physical free agent

Leave Tinordi and Beaulieu in the AHL for two years
Stuart is going back to California.

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03-21-2012, 06:50 PM
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I said it before and I'll say it again. I can easily foresee a situation where Roy comes back as coach and the Habs trade down to ensure getting Grigorenko as they've worked very well together in the past. If they don't bring in Roy ro coach than it's most likely status quo and BPA.

On a personal note, I'd rather get Grigorenko in the draft. He has all the potential to be that number one center we've longed for, for so long. Size, speed, skill and a scoring touch. Hard to find out there and even harder to draft. He'd be the the only bright spot for what's been a dismal year.

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03-21-2012, 06:55 PM
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I said it before and I'll say it again. I can easily foresee a situation where Roy comes back as coach and the Habs trade down to ensure getting Grigorenko as they've worked very well together in the past. If they don't bring in Roy ro coach than it's most likely status quo and BPA.

On a personal note, I'd rather get Grigorenko in the draft. He has all the potential to be that number one center we've longed for, for so long. Size, speed, skill and a scoring touch. Hard to find out there and even harder to draft. He'd be the the only bright spot for what's been a dismal year.
So does Galchenyuk and he actually has the drive to achieve it. Him and Forsberg are above Grigorenko IMO. Pleks would be a fine #1 centre with Forsberg or Yakupov on his wing.

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03-21-2012, 07:04 PM
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If you consider our prospects, a lot better looking than centers. See Gallagher, Kristo and Leblanc namely. Who are these centers you're so all about? There's nobody coming from Hamilton other than Engqvist.
Plekanec, Eller and Desharnais - all already NHLers

Gallaguer - Prospect Grade: 7.5 C - should be an NHLer in two years
Kristo - Prospect Grade: 7.5 C - needs at least one year in Hamilton
Leblanc - Prospect Grade: 7.5 B - probable 3rd liner. Will probably never be an big impact player.

And those are your big prospects?

Leblanc might make the team next year based on our pitance of wingers... that's it!

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03-21-2012, 07:07 PM
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Draft BPA and try to sign needs in the off season

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03-21-2012, 07:09 PM
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So does Galchenyuk and he actually has the drive to achieve it. Him and Forsberg are above Grigorenko IMO. Pleks would be a fine #1 centre with Forsberg or Yakupov on his wing.
I agree with you here. In my limited exposure to both, hearing about one having a much better work ethic is much more appealing to me. I want winners on this team and galchenyuk seems more like one than grigo. Then again, I admit I haven't seen them much.

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03-21-2012, 08:23 PM
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So does Galchenyuk and he actually has the drive to achieve it. Him and Forsberg are above Grigorenko IMO. Pleks would be a fine #1 centre with Forsberg or Yakupov on his wing.
Except Galchenyuk missed a year with an injury. Every year Canadiens fans want a big scoring center and now that the team can get one in Grigorenko, fans are finding excuses not to take him.

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03-21-2012, 08:32 PM
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So does Galchenyuk and he actually has the drive to achieve it. Him and Forsberg are above Grigorenko IMO. Pleks would be a fine #1 centre with Forsberg or Yakupov on his wing.
Well I don't know either one of them personally so I can't comment as to their drive. I'm always weary of people go assess the drive of a 17 year old. Maybe the haven't least good habits yet.

What I do know is the Roy has apparently worked with Grigs to bring out the best in him.

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03-21-2012, 08:46 PM
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You really think Timmins is analysing what to do with Desharnais when drafting?

Desharnais is good, but he's not Sidney Crosby.
fken right , folks lets get our heads out of our ass here on DD

he is Lebeau or Yanic Perreault , not a legit top 2 cneter on a good team

he is having the luxury of playing for a crap team and playing #1 minutes with 2 horses who jam the net

on any good team he is on the farm

you take Grigs if he is there and move the midget if you have too somehere else

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fken right , folks lets get our heads out of our ass here on DD

he is Lebeau or Yanic Perreault , not a legit top 2 cneter on a good team

he is having the luxury of playing for a crap team and playing #1 minutes with 2 horses who jam the net

on any good team he is on the farm

you take Grigs if he is there and move the midget if you have too somehere else
You're a good judge of talent ! NOT !

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Except Galchenyuk missed a year with an injury. Every year Canadiens fans want a big scoring center and now that the team can get one in Grigorenko, fans are finding excuses not to take him.
If grigs wasnt on roys team every person on this forum would treat the guy like the plague. The talent difference between grigs and gal is not enough to ignore the question marks of either. No one wants a lazy head case.

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Grigorenko !!!!

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If grigs wasnt on roys team every person on this forum would treat the guy like the plague. The talent difference between grigs and gal is not enough to ignore the question marks of either. No one wants a lazy head case.
the second best player who has injury problems is even less wanted...

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You're a good judge of talent ! NOT !
and this team is good...NOT

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Agreed. Timmins is an excellent judge of character and talent and if they let him do his job, he'll pick right.

I also agree that Dumba is an exciting prospect although our needs are more up front, especially at the wing .




jk, I agree with you. I voted for winger. I'm just praying somehow we stay in the lottery and get lucky, vaulting us in whatever position gets us Yakupov. Very worried about the last 8 games (ours and others'). The Buffalo game gave me hope, but we did have to rely on some sweet shots (well, the third goal) by Hodgson. When Leino missed the wide open net I wondered whether we should ask to borrow him to put him on a line with Bourque.

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fken right , folks lets get our heads out of our ass here on DD

he is Lebeau or Yanic Perreault , not a legit top 2 cneter on a good team

he is having the luxury of playing for a crap team and playing #1 minutes with 2 horses who jam the net

on any good team he is on the farm

you take Grigs if he is there and move the midget if you have too somehere else
Lebeau wasn't a top 6 center on a good team?

Woah 1993 called, they want a word with you about our 2nd line Cup Champion center.

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Plekanec, Eller and Desharnais - all already NHLers

Gallaguer - Prospect Grade: 7.5 C - should be an NHLer in two years
Kristo - Prospect Grade: 7.5 C - needs at least one year in Hamilton
Leblanc - Prospect Grade: 7.5 B - probable 3rd liner. Will probably never be an big impact player.

And those are your big prospects?

Leblanc might make the team next year based on our pitance of wingers... that's it!
LeBlanc plays to the level of a 3rd liner at 20 even though he isn't yet a finished prospect. How does that make hiom a "probable 3rd liner"? If Louis LeBlanc is a 3rd liner at 25 he has either busted or we have a powerhouse team that has a good chance to win a cup.

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Except Galchenyuk missed a year with an injury. Every year Canadiens fans want a big scoring center and now that the team can get one in Grigorenko, fans are finding excuses not to take him.
So we'd be better off with say Viktor Kozlov than say Thomas Plekanec?

Size at center is massively overrated. San Jose had 445lbs of top 2 centers and constantly choked at playoff time. Last year Boston won with guys 185-190lbs while Vancouver had 6'2" 200+lbs guys.

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BPA. The pick is too high to go with a team need. Take the BPA and sort it out later....

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LeBlanc plays to the level of a 3rd liner at 20 even though he isn't yet a finished prospect. How does that make hiom a "probable 3rd liner"? If Louis LeBlanc is a 3rd liner at 25 he has either busted or we have a powerhouse team that has a good chance to win a cup.
It's my opinion that Leblanc would be playing in Hamilton right now notwithstanding trades and significant injuries - not on the 3rd line in Montreal.

It's my opinion that Leblanc is a good prospect and will become a good player but I don't see him becoming an offensive force in the NHL, even at 25. He will be a good honest 2 way player.

Brian Gionta, in his prime, is a typical 2nd liner in the NHL. I don't think Leblanc will become as good as Gionta was in his prime. I hope I'm wrong.

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BPA is way better than Yakupov and Grigorenko
I wonder what positions he play

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draft bpa unless its a goalie, then trade the pick up or down

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But wouldnt it be amazing to have a defense of:

Beaulieu - Subban
Tinordi - Dumba/Murray
Gorges - Emelin


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It's my opinion that Leblanc would be playing in Hamilton right now notwithstanding trades and significant injuries - not on the 3rd line in Montreal.

It's my opinion that Leblanc is a good prospect and will become a good player but I don't see him becoming an offensive force in the NHL, even at 25. He will be a good honest 2 way player.

Brian Gionta, in his prime, is a typical 2nd liner in the NHL. I don't think Leblanc will become as good as Gionta was in his prime. I hope I'm wrong.
Well hopefully you're wrong.

And Gionta at his best had 89 points, those are 1st line numbers.

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Trade the top pick for the rights to sign Radulov and Suter if thats possible.

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