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03-22-2012, 12:54 PM
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Is he even playing anymore? Haven't noticed him the last month or so.
Don't blame Bozak for your lack of attention.

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03-22-2012, 12:55 PM
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Personally I don't hate him and he played great with both Kessel and Lupul.

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03-22-2012, 12:57 PM
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Personally I don't hate him and he played great with both Kessel and Lupul.

Yeah it was great, they would go out pot 3 goals while they were on and in turn let 3 potted against them every game. Nothing like erasing your own results.

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Yeah it was great, they would go out pot 3 goals while they were on and in turn let 3 potted against them every game. Nothing like erasing your own results.
not their fault their save percentage is less than .900.

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He's a #3 center. I do think he's got some talent and a reasonable contract. No need to lump him in with Connolley, Armstrong, Lombardi and Komeserek

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03-22-2012, 01:06 PM
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not their fault their save percentage is less than .900.
Buddy, Brodeur in his prime would never have achieved what he did had he played under Wilson's system or with lines that had defensive lapses like them.

Fact: When Grabovski is on the ice the play is more often then not in the other teams end. Look at his Corsi rating as well.

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So you hate every centre on the team?
LOL
No but I hate that he's our #1 Center

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03-22-2012, 01:20 PM
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LOL
No but I hate that he's our #1 Center
Bozak as a #1C is like Madonna playing QB for the Patriots.

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Bozak as a #1C is like Madonna playing QB for the Patriots.
lolll I rather have modonna lol jk

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03-22-2012, 02:15 PM
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No but they can hate him for screwing up countless plays and adding to +/- woes of that line. A can of red spray paint ain't making your Cavalier a Ferrari bud.
Only an idiot thinks he's a Ferrari.

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Only an idiot thinks he's a Ferrari.
Exactly lol.

Go get Nash Burke you bafoon!

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I wasn't in favour of singing Connolly, since Bozak has matched his
numbers in the seasons play. Right now he's beating TC.

He's on par, for regular season numbers. What was Connolly supposed to bring, that Bozak did not? Being drafted 5th overall??

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Bozak was rushed into this organization, and it stunted his growth and development.

He is really a tweener.

Might be ok at a 3rd line center who can occasionally score. But not really suited to be a #1 center, or #2 center.

I think the fact he plays center and not wing takes away from his game. Between Kessel and Lupul, he is often the one doing the back-checking since the other two stink defensively and have typically given up odd-man rushes.

I see Bozak as Stajan's replacement. Pretty much the same player even is Stajan is a bit bigger.

Bozak has improved this season statiscally, which good for him, but he will never be a legit top 6 forward.
Does that mean if he goes on to score 80 points next year that he'll not be considered a top 6 forward?

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03-22-2012, 02:27 PM
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I wasn't in favour of singing Connolly, since Bozak has matched his
numbers in the seasons play. Right now he's beating TC.

He's on par, for regular season numbers. What was Connolly supposed to bring, that Bozak did not? Being drafted 5th overall??
Connolly was a pointless signing but the best C available at the time. In theory is size/slill met the criteria for the Wilson system but does not meet Carlyle's at all.

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I like and appreciate Bozaks game. Not his fault that some ppull [whom I call the WBB] needs to bash and hate on others to elevate their own self esteem.

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which has very good chemistry with our top players. Very good stop-gap imo ideal 3rd liner.
I think we should have a tougher guy on the third line. Grabovski is our 2nd line guy. As was mentioned earlier Bozak is not a number 1 guy. So we should move him.

Although I do like him more this season than I did last year.

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03-22-2012, 02:36 PM
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I like and appreciate Bozaks game. Not his fault that some ppull [whom I call the WBB] needs to bash and hate on others to elevate their own self esteem.
Yeah or maybe they are not bashing on him because of self esteem issues at all and are just calling him out for what he is. Put yourself in a GM chair for a second.

The line is pitiful defensively, Bozak touches the puck (2nd assists) and gets gifts or rebounds in front of the net. I think I maybe saw 2 good goals by him all season and I fully gave him credit for them. Is that really what you want to lead your 1st line? Lombardi may actually have as many points as Bozak this year had he been on 1st line and I am not joking.

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Yeah or maybe they are not bashing on him because of self esteem issues at all and are just calling him out for what he is. Put yourself in a GM chair for a second.

The line is pitiful defensively, Bozak touches the puck (2nd assists) and gets gifts or rebounds in front of the net. I think I maybe saw 2 good goals by him all season and I fully gave him credit for them. Is that really what you want to lead your 1st line? Lombardi may actually have as many points as Bozak this year had he been on 1st line and I am not joking.
If your not joking then you obviously dont understand hockey well.

Bozak has 10x the hockey sense that Lombardi has. Lombardi is a one trick pony..... get the puck, skate as fast as you can to the net, and either dump the puck on net, or go behind the net and center it.

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03-22-2012, 03:23 PM
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Bozak is basically Stajan. He's not physical enough to play #3C and not skilled enough to be a top. He can make the odd nice pass or scoring play, and his defense is his best attribute but even there he's not all that great as he isn't overly. He is just kinda meh

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03-22-2012, 03:34 PM
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Yeah people dumping on Bozak makes me shake my head. Like he cost us absoultely nothing to sign, is making 1.5 million, and is good for 15-20 goals a year. The +/- arguments are ******** IMO. It's a team stat - what is so hard to understand about this?

And people constantly rag on his for missing "easy opportunities". Like yeah, maybe he does, but at least he gets himself in position to miss them. Half of hockey is getting yourself in position to score. Play someone like Steckel or Lombo or whoever in his place and they won't even be in those spots to miss these opportunities in the first place.

Yeah, he isn't a #1 centre, but blame Burke for our awful centre depth that forced him to play out of his league, it's so not his fault for that. Ugh.


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Connolly was a pointless signing but the best C available at the time. In theory is size/slill met the criteria for the Wilson system but does not meet Carlyle's at all.
Does Grabo's size/skill meet Carlyle's requirements?

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03-22-2012, 04:05 PM
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Well, i am of the opinion that Bozak is a poor choice at both 1c and 3c.

I am not really a fan of bozak's game at all, I know some people are but I am not. When I watch him play, I see a soft, non-dynamic, maybe adequate sometimes defensively, poor shooter, doesnt like to engage contact, and struggles maintaining possession.

Thats the player I see, and although he has rebounded pretty decently from his last season, I get the feeling we could have thrown a number of people into his position between Lupul and Kessel this year and gotten similar results.

Not a fan. I appreciate what he has done for this team in his time here and that he is generally good with the media, but he is not a favourite of mine. My 2 cents.

That is my exact quote from another thread.

Its not that he is a bad player, I just dont see him playing on this team as we improve.
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