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03-22-2012, 09:45 AM
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All suspensions for your teams are not warranted and the guy who committed the attrocities against your team is a thug who does not warrant the right to continue to live. Let's face it, Doan threw the elbow, hit Jamie in the jaw, but it certainly was not a malicous hit by any means, if Doan wanted to he could have taken Benn's head of there, if Benn does not fall down, nothing happens--maybe a penalty but thats about it. However, let me be clear about one thing as I have watched this kid since he has been in Juniors. Benn does not dive. However, the Stars lately can't buy a call. The went a game and 1/2 without drawing one damn penaltly. Other than Otter (who does not get the calls anyway because everyone hates him--hehe), we don't have one guy on the team who dives. Which in all reality hurts us. My guess is that's why Jamie layed out on the play. It sucks that it caused your guy to get suspended, but if your smart, fighting for a playoff spot, it honestly is probably the right thing to do. I agree that something needs to be done to stop diving. But every team does it, and honestly, at least right now, the best teams/players at doing it are rewarded the most.
Uhmm, Ribiero?

Diving is never "the right thing to do".

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03-22-2012, 09:47 AM
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Stars fan, coming in peace.

Just a couple things. I felt the suspension was just and fair. There wasn't any malicious intent, just a stupid, careless play that went bad.

Also, for those of you saying Benn embellished the hit, it's similar to getting high-sticked in the face. It's a natural instinct, can't really avoid that. He didn't sell it, he simply jerked away and went down, like most people would've done.

Also, he was hit in the nose a bit, which explains the tears on the bench. If you've ever been hit in the nose, you'll know what I'm talking about.


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Uhmm, Ribiero?

Diving is never "the right thing to do".
It's extremely rare for anyone of the Stars' to dive. It's just a mentality of the team. Sure, he dove a lot in Montreal, but that was over 5 years ago. You won't see him dive now.

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Stars fan, coming in peace.

Just a couple things. I felt the suspension was just and fair. There wasn't any malicious intent, just a stupid, careless play that went bad.

Also, for those of you saying Benn embellished the hit, it's similar to getting high-sticked in the face. It's a natural instinct, can't really avoid that. He didn't sell it, he simply jerked away and went down, like most people would've done.

Also, he was hit in the nose a bit, which explains the tears on the bench. If you've ever been hit in the nose, you'll know what I'm talking about.




It's extremely rare for anyone of the Stars' to dive. It's just a mentality of the team. Sure, he dove a lot in Montreal, but that was over 5 years ago. You won't see him dive now.
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03-22-2012, 09:53 AM
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Two to three games was the general consensus from partial and non-partial parties prior to the ruling. This should come to no shock to most people.

I must admit, I've been wondering about Doan a bit though because he has been getting more suspensions and fines than in years past. I know everyone is, but Doan is not a guy I've ever considered to be that type of player despite his physical style. Shane Doan is not a dirty player, he is a physical player, and there is a difference.

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Looks like that main board thread went full retard.

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Stars fan, coming in peace.

Just a couple things. I felt the suspension was just and fair. There wasn't any malicious intent, just a stupid, careless play that went bad.

Also, for those of you saying Benn embellished the hit, it's similar to getting high-sticked in the face. It's a natural instinct, can't really avoid that. He didn't sell it, he simply jerked away and went down, like most people would've done.

Also, he was hit in the nose a bit, which explains the tears on the bench. If you've ever been hit in the nose, you'll know what I'm talking about.

It's extremely rare for anyone of the Stars' to dive. It's just a mentality of the team. Sure, he dove a lot in Montreal, but that was over 5 years ago. You won't see him dive now.
I guess you didn't see O'Reilly get high sticked against the Flames the other night, blood pouring out. He went off the ice, got the nost plugged up, and was back skating on the ice the very next shift. Not just his scheduled shift, but the next shift period that was on the ice after the refs were talking.

Appreciate the drive by though!

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We still havn't talked about the real problem. Jamie Benn needs a hair cut.

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Mod note: don't copy posts from another forum thread over to this thread with the intent of making the quoted poster look bad. That can run afoul of the site trolling rules.

If you want to engage a poster in another thread/forum please do it there.

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We still havn't talked about the real problem. Jamie Benn needs a hair cut.

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if your smart, fighting for a playoff spot, it honestly is probably the right thing to do. I agree that something needs to be done to stop diving. But every team does it, and honestly, at least right now, the best teams/players at doing it are rewarded the most.
Smart? Let's call a lack of integrity out for the very cowardice that it is. Best teams/players?.... rewarded cowards and a damn shame.


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True... some teams better than others

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if your smart, fighting for a playoff spot, it honestly is probably the right thing to do. I agree that something needs to be done to stop diving. But every team does it, and honestly, at least right now, the best teams/players at doing it are rewarded the most.


Hint look at the teams that ride power plays to the playoffs and beyond.

A little hint.
















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Let's not pretend to be aghast at an embellishment by another player, its not like we don't have guys that haven't played it up as well. (Watch Yandle when anything gets close to his head). Its sad but thats the way the younger players in the league are trending. For now at least I'd think both Phoenix and Dallas fans should be happy that both our teams aren't full of players that do it like some other teams are (see TJ's post above).

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It's extremely rare for anyone of the Stars' to dive. It's just a mentality of the team. Sure, he dove a lot in Montreal, but that was over 5 years ago. You won't see him dive now.
But I know I can say for sure Fiddler does cause the man did it all the time when he played for us and was pretty effective at it At the end of the day do agree about Ribero and Dallas in general. Bottom line is PHX/DAL game tend to be pretty chippy so we probably see the worst in some of each others players come out more often than they normally do. But to me that just makes the games againt the Stars all the more fun to watch and why I both love and hate playing them.

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Let's not pretend to be aghast at an embellishment by another player, its not like we don't have guys that haven't played it up as well. (Watch Yandle when anything gets close to his head). Its sad but thats the way the younger players in the league are trending. For now at least I'd think both Phoenix and Dallas fans should be happy that both our teams aren't full of players that do it like some other teams are (see TJ's post above).



But I know I can say for sure Fiddler does cause the man did it all the time when he played for us and was pretty effective at it At the end of the day do agree about Ribero and Dallas in general. Bottom line is PHX/DAL game tend to be pretty chippy so we probably see the worst in some of each others players come out more often than they normally do. But to me that just makes the games againt the Stars all the more fun to watch and why I both love and hate playing them.
Hey now, like the person said, they do NOT do stuff line that. They probably made fids stop that business that the coyotes taught him. Lol

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TJinAZ wins this thread.

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TJinAZ wins this thread.
Nobody wins.

However there are losers....any Coyote fan who can't accept that it was an illegal hit and/or a justified suspension, WITHOUT spinning it against Benn or any other player.

Man up people.

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Nobody wins.

However there are losers....any Coyote fan who can't accept that it was an illegal hit and/or a justified suspension, WITHOUT spinning it against Benn or any other player.

Man up people.
I haven't seen much in the way of support for Doan's actions. That Benn took the dive of the year is a separate, but relevant issue.

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that seems to be the lesson here

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I haven't seen much in the way of support for Doan's actions. That Benn took the dive of the year is a separate, but relevant issue.
I don't think any Coyote fan condone's Doan's actions. He was going for the hit Benn moved and Doan extended. Bad decision. Now we all can agree that players on both team will "embellish" when hit near the head. Whether it is a natural or trained reaction is irrelevant. It happens.

Doan is a veteran and he let his emotions get the best of him. There were some questionable hits on both sides but hey... everyone is playing hard to get to the playoffs. Us fans are in the same boat. We tend to see things with "our" team in mind. Dallas only sees the extended elbow and the Coyotes fans see the late head snap. They are not mutually exclusive.

Reminds me of the whole Hatcher/Roenick incident but this time we are the bad buy and no one got hurt. I don't hate Dallas and think they have some fine players that play hard nosed hockey. That they stole Fiddy from us aside. I think both teams fans can be proud that we don't have divers. Although I will say I find it a bit Hypocritical when Ribero speaks of sportsmanship.

And one more dig on the Nucks. Is it just me or does Salo's melon look like the model for megamind?


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I don't think any Coyote fan condone's Doan's actions. He was going for the hit Benn moved and Doan extended. Bad decision. Now we all can agree that players on both team will "embellish" when hit near the head. Whether it is a natural or trained reaction is irrelevant. It happens.

Doan is a veteran and he let his emotions get the best of him. There were some questionable hits on both sides but hey... everyone is playing hard to get to the playoffs. Us fans are in the same boat. We tend to see things with "our" team in mind. Dallas only sees the extended elbow and the Coyotes fans see the late head snap. They are not mutually exclusive.

Reminds me of the whole Hatcher/Roenick incident but this time we are the bad buy and no one got hurt. I don't hate Dallas and think they have some fine players that play hard nosed hockey. That they stole Fiddy from us aside. I think both teams fans can be proud that we don't have divers. Although I will say I find it a bit Hypocritical when Ribero speaks of sportsmanship.

And one more dig on the Nucks.

Except Benn's ego, he'll see the video of him crying for the rest of his life

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That is going to haunt him.

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Except Benn's ego, he'll see the video of him crying for the rest of his life
That was unfortunate. I think Benn has been pure class through this whole incident. He accepted the NHL's ruling and Doan's apology and hasn't whined or griped at all.

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Nobody wins.

However there are losers....any Coyote fan who can't accept that it was an illegal hit and/or a justified suspension, WITHOUT spinning it against Benn or any other player.

Man up people.
2 seperate issues.


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Nobody wins.

However there are losers....any Coyote fan who can't accept that it was an illegal hit and/or a justified suspension, WITHOUT spinning it against Benn or any other player.

Man up people.

Men have disagreed with the establishment since the dawn man. To imply that "walking the line" is to "man up" is nothing short of idiotic.

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I don't think any Coyote fan condone's Doan's actions. He was going for the hit Benn moved and Doan extended. Bad decision. Now we all can agree that players on both team will "embellish" when hit near the head. Whether it is a natural or trained reaction is irrelevant. It happens.
Correct, it would seem all agree to the initial elbowing penalty as called on the ice.... bad decision.

Personally I can also agree that many players (regrettably most anymore) will embellish on many hits. I don't think it's irrelevant however, as it's increased frequency speaks of the game, it's players and what they are becoming.

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I think it's pretty much ******** that Keith only got 2 more games that Doan. Not only was his elbow much worse, it was %100 intentional, it was premeditated and Sedin is likely done for the season and could even miss playoff games! ****ing retarded!

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I think it's pretty much ******** that Keith only got 2 more games that Doan. Not only was his elbow much worse, it was %100 intentional, it was premeditated and Sedin is likely done for the season and could even miss playoff games! ****ing retarded!
Doan likely would have gotten 2 games had he not been a repeat defender so Keith technically got more than double what Doan did plus he loses $350 K in salary.

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Doan likely would have gotten 2 games had he not been a repeat defender so Keith technically got more than double what Doan did plus he loses $350 K in salary.
I.e. he got off pretty clean.

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