On more than one occasion, though, he surprised some of the more rugged types in the league when they tried to slap him around. He was also the top face-off man of his era.
He was eventually made team captain
Ian Fyffe's Hockey Historysis
Like his brother Harry, Tommy Smith was a hockey mercenary. He had played exactly one season of high-level senior hockey in his hometown of Ottawa before going to Pittsburgh to play for pay. He played for seven different clubs in the next seven seasons, before finally settling down (mostly) in Quebec for a few years, where he had his greatest success in terms of the Stanley Cup.
Although Joe Malone is today the best-known player on the great Bulldog teams of the 1910s, there seems little doubt to me that Smith was actually their best player. As it happens, Malone was four years' Smith's junior, and as such was able to hang around long enough to produce in the NHL, rather than the NHA, and as such is known to even some less-than-hardcore fans as the man who scored 2.2 goals per game in the current league's inaugural season. No disrespect intended to Malone, of course, who was a great player in his own right. But Smith doesn't get the respect today that he deserves.
Tommy Smith scored buckets of goals, wherever he went. have a look at his Point Allocation results. He scored in Ottawa, he scored in Pittsburgh, he scored in Brantford, he scored in Galt, he scored in Moncton, he scored in Toronto, and he especially scored in Quebec. He led three separate leagues in goals (the Federal Amateur Hockey League, the Ontario Professional Hockey League, and the National Hockey Association twice), missed leading the Maritime Professional Hockey Association by one goal in 1911/12, and would surely have also led the Western Pennsylvania league in 1908/09 had the team he was playing for not folded halfway through the schedule (his goals-per-game was over twice that of the man who actually led the league, and only his brother Harry was close on a per-game basis).
Smith was quite a durable player - he never missed a significant number of games due to injury; it took typhoid fever to knock him out for most of the 1909/10 season. He was also apparently excellent at taking faceoffs, something not often noted at the time, despite playing wing when he was teamed with Malone.
Contradictory quotes about his defensive play also from Hockey Historysis... Quebec Chronicle - Jan. 2, 1913
Tommy Smith was good both on attack and defence and is one of the best all around players on the team.
Quebec Chronicle - Jan. 20, 1913
[Tommy] Smith, unlike his brother Harry, is a speed merchant and is always in the thick of the fray.
Toronto Star - Feb. 9, 1914
[Tommy] Smith, while he loafs almost all the time, never fails to be on the job for a pass, and his shooting is a feature of the forward line.
Toronto Star - Feb. 12, 1914
Tommy [Smith] was always ready to join in any Quebec rush if some one else would carry the puck three-quarters of the way up the rink to where he was usually loafing.
Hockey Historysis' Interpretation...
To a certain degree we can attribute the Quebec opinion to homerism; however, in the same respect we can attribute the Toronto opinion to anti-homerism, if you will, or beating up on opposing players while dressing up your own. So the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
My interpretation is that Smith had some defensive skill, but did not use it all the time, as a tactical decision. He was most valuable on offence, so did not spend too much energy on defence. However, both when in Quebec and Moncton, at least, he was noted for always being in the thick of it. I interpret that to mean that while he did not necessarily backcheck, he was an aggressive forechecker.
Awards and Achievements
2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1906, 1913)
5 x Stanley Cup Finalist (1906, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1917)
2 x Retro Art Ross Trophy (1914, 1915)
2 x Retro Rocket Richard Trophy (1914, 1915)
Retro Hart Trophy (1915)
Career Scoring Records
Points – 1st(1906)
Goals – 1st(1906)
All Star voting results:
2nd team all-star, 1941.
Overall: 4, 5, 6, 6, 11, 11, 11, plus token consideration two more years
Originally Posted by Joe Pelletier
Though the red-haired Heller was said to be a very personable character off the ice, on the ice he was a quiet, steady defenseman who excelled at keeping opposition forwards outside of the slot and towards the perimeter. He was said to have incredible upper body strength, allowing him to quickly pin his opponent and by doing so avoiding many penalties. He was tough too, often training with local boxers at a local gym.
Heller was a great skater, and not afraid to join or even lead the rush from time to time. His most famous goal came in a playoff game against Montreal very early in his career. He dashed from one end of the rink to the other to score the game's only goal.
Heller, who captained the Rangers in his final three seasons, played in 646 career games, once a team record. He scored 55 goals and 231 points in an era when defensemen really were there for defense only. He added 6 goals and 14 points in 61 Stanley Cup playoff games.
"Ott was a hockey player, simple as that," recalled Emile Francis, in the book 100 Rangers Greats. "He was as tough as nails, and not an ounce of fat on him. What an athlete. It seemed like the guy played forever, and at such a high level. He was amazing."
The New York Rangers: Broadway’s Longest Running Hit by Kreiser and Friedman:
Ehrardt Henry (Ott) Heller lasted 15 years with the Rangers, a number surpassed only by Rod Gilbert (18 years) and Harry Howell (17)…
When he first arrived, he was paired with Ching Johnson, allowing the veteran Johnson to rush the puck a little more, then teamed with Babe Pratt to form an almost impregnable duo during the 1939-40 championship season.
New York Times, March 27, 1935:
Outstanding on defense for the Blueshirts was Ott Heller, who roamed all over the ice in front of his team’s cage picking off enemy rushes.
As can be seen by his SEVEN top five finishes in assists among defensemen in his career, he was a very adept passer and puck rusher. He was never really a factor as far as scoring goals outside of 1944, which was a war year and an outlier for him.
*A strong, fast skater with a bias towards playmaking, but who also has a great shot. Plays a good two-way game, but not a shutdown type player. Can be temperamental...needs the right coach to perform his best.
PCHA 1st Team All Star: 1921*, 1922, 1923, 1924
*Rookie Season as a Professional
WCHL/WHL All-Star Team: 1926
Frank Frederickson was born in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1895.
Upon return to Canada [after WWI], Frederickson looked to resume playing hockey, though mostly for the love of the game. He rejoined the Winnipeg Falcons, and shocked many by claiming the Allan Cup for the senior championship of Canada, defeating the famed University of Toronto.
Moreover, the Allan Cup championship winners would represent Canada at the 1920 Olympics - the first year hockey would be a medal sport.
Frederickson captained the Falcons, who also boasted North American speed skating champion Mike Goodman and giant Slim Halter, long time Falcons like goalie Wally Byron, defensemen Bobby Benson and Connie Johannesson, forward Chris Fridfinnson and rover Huck Woodman. The team easily won the gold medal, outscoring the opposition 29-1 in three games. Frederickson led the way with 12 tallies.
I received a letter from Lester Patrick, the Old Sliver Fox of hockey, who was in Victoria, British Columbia, where he had a team in the old Pacific Coast League. It was top notch hockey and Lester offered me what was a substantial contract in those days - $2500 for 24 games. I call it substantial because the rest of the boys were playing for $800 and $900. I couldn't resist the offer and so found myself right back in the middle of hockey again."
Frank spent the next 6 years in the British Columbian capital. His best year was easily in 1922-23 when he led the league in all major statistical categories with 39 goals, 16 assists and 55 points in just 30 games.In 1925 Frederickson scored 6 goals and 9 points in 8 playoff games as the Victoria Cougars became the last non-NHL team to capture the Stanley Cup.
Patrick's hockey league had to fold in 1926. The Victoria Cougars were purchased and moved to Detroit, where they became the NHL's Detroit Cougars. Frederickson too moved to Detroit, playing just 16 games (4 goals and 10 points) before being traded to the Boston Bruins with Harry Meeking for Duke Keats and Archie Briden on January 7, 1927.
Frederickson spent parts of 3 seasons in Boston, his best coming in 1927-28 when he scored 14 goals in 28 games. Frederickson was traded to the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for Mickey MacKay and $12,000 on December 21, 1928.
A dynamic offensive center, Frank Fredrickson followed up a brilliant amateur career with an impressive tenure as a professional. Along the way, the Winnipeg native won an Olympic gold medal and a Stanley Cup and played his way into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
The crafty forward debuted as a professional with the Victoria Cougars of the PCHA in 1920-21. The league's wide-open style suited Fredrickson's offensive gifts and he continued to score at will.
One of the greatest amateur stars in Canadian history and an excellent pro, Fredrickson was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1958.
Cyclone Taylor A Hockey Legend
Typical of the new breed was the rookie over there in Victoria, with Lester Patrick's Aristcrats. He was Frank Fredrickson, the twenty-five year old from Winnipeg, the superlative center of that city's Falcons, who was hailed on the prairies as the game's brightest star. That assessment was certaintly not far off, if off at all.
The Vancouver-Victoria game was scheduled for New Year's Day in 1921. It was billed as the battle of the World's Greatest Professionel (Cyclone Taylor) versus the World's Greatest Amateur (Frank Fredrickson). Victoria won the game 3-1 as Frank Fredrickson scored 2 goals.
"Frank Fredrickson was about as fine a player as I've ever seen. He was fast, shifty, smart, and had a wonderful shot
Regina Morning Leader - April 21, 1925
In my opinion Frederickson outshone either Keats of Morenz for the 1924-25 season. He was right at the top of the W.C.L. scoring list and starred when the Victoria Cougars outclassed the Canadiens in the Stanley Cup final, Morenz being the pick of the Montreal team.
Regina Morning Leader - March 27, 1923
Fans who had never seen Dick Irvin and Frank Fredrickson on opposing teams were afforded this opportunity last night, and in all due respect to Fredrickson's great reputation it must be said that Dick earned a shade on the night's play. Irvin was directly reponsible for three of his team's goals and on two occasions stick-handled his way clear through the Victoria defense to lash the rubber past Fowler. Fredrickson, however, was a marked man all night and in spite of the fact that he was watched closely and given little chance to bore through he managed to notch two counters and was far more effective in the art of back-checking than his elusive rival.
Chicago Daily Tribune - December 10, 1927
Boston's big star is Frank Fredrickson, another temperamental chap. Frederickson's frequent outbursts of temperament in other seasons gained him the name Temperamental Freddie. Frederickson is an Icelander. Although he weights 190 pounds he can play a full sixty minutes of hockey at top speed. He has inherited strength and endurance from his ancestors who played a game called "Glima", a form of wrestling in which the grapplers use their legs to obtain the desired holds.
But the same Slim [Halderson], with his great puck carrying ability, his tenacity of purpose and his unselfishness when he saw a chance to pass, together with Frank Fredrickson with his speed, weight and exceptional ability in shooting these two whose thoughts and actions were as one, made a great combination on the attacking line. Add to this Mike Goodman's sensational skating proclivities (he was at the time Canadian speed skating champion) and one need not wonder at the power of their attack and their superb defensive play.
Frank Fredrickson's skating and stick handling and especially his shooting skills were utilized to the best advantage. Frank, therefore, was up with every rush.
The Leader-Post - Apr. 14, 1970
Returning from Iceland, Frederickson was wooed west from Winnipeg by the late Lester Patrick and signed a $2,700 contract with the professional Victoria Cougars of the Pacific Coast League. The musclebound centre powered the Cougars to an upset Stanley Cup victory in 1925 over Montreal Canadiens - no mean feat considering the Canadiens roster included such greats as Georges Vezina, Aurel Joliat, Howie Morenz, xxxxxxx and the Cleghorn brothers.
The following year the Cougars lost out in the Stanley Cup final to Montreal Maroons and the Patricks, Lester and xxxxxxx, sold their PCHL interests to the National Hockey League. Frederickson was sold to Boston but quietly signed a $6,000 contract with Detroit for the 1926 season, $2,000 more than the Bruins offered. It produced a major verbal brawl after Boston general manager Art Ross threatened to have Frederickson suspended for life.
The Winnipeg centre weathered the storm, but ironically was anything but happy in Detroit. Midway through the 1927 season Fredrickson got himself sold back to Boston, then in the NHL cellar. Quickly regaining his form, Fredrickson rocketed the Bruins into the Stanley Cup final against Ottawa, though the Senators took the series. In 1930 the Bruins sold him to Pittsburgh Pirates where he became the NHL's first player-coach-manager, receiving $8,000 a season.Early in the 1931-32 season, Fredrickson took a hard check by Bill Cook of New York and suffered a torn knee cartilage which ended his professional career.
The Border Cities Star - Jan. 14, 1927
It's interesting to note what they think of Frank Fredrickson out on the coast, where he performed for many years as a member of the Victoria Cougars. Here's what a Vancouver paper says of the tempermental Icelander traded by Detroit: Frank Fredrickson has been traded by Art Duncan of Detroit to Boston for Duke Keats and Archie Briden, and Duncan has sold Russell Oatman to Montreal Maroons, a club that desired him months ago but couldn't get him because he was still part of the Victoria Cougars, sold en bloc to Detroit for $100,000 smackers by the Patricks.
It is doubtful that Fredrickson was happy under Duncan. There are few men in hockey who can get the best out of Fredrickson. Lester Patrick could, but he did it by closely fraternizing with the highly strung Icelander whose principal bent in life is hockey and music. Fredrickson is as tempermental as Suzanne Lenglen is suspected to be by her American contemporaries. Lester knew this and was usually the first to dig up Freddy's "uke" when the Cougars were on the road and his centre star was indulging in a fit of the blues. In a moment Fredrickson would be striding up and down the aisle of the flying railway coach, tawnging the beloved strings, plaintively wondering what had become of Sally, while Lester's fine baritone led the boys in hot pursuit.
Other times Patrick would talk to Fredrickson to the absolute exclusion of all others. Again the pair would rag each other unmercifully or Lester might tell at length, before all the team, one of Freddy's innumerable foibles, real or imagined. Yet there was a deep affection between them. Fredrickson would do anything, reasonable or freakish, that Lester could ask and it was for the tall grey-haired skipper of the Cougars that the brilliant and erratic Icelander played his finest hockey. Every summer Fredrickson announced himself out of hockey. Every fall he was the first to report to Lester. With Duncan, phlegmatic and centred on his first managerial job, it was hardly to be expected that Fredrickson would be happy.
He will probably fit in much better with Art Ross in Boston. Ross is an experienced pilot who knows his hockey players. He is a stickler for discipline but if he pays a little direct attention to Fredrickson and his idiosyncracies, press wires will soon be carrying stories of Boston's brilliant centre. Fredrickson is a great hockey player. But not for every manager. That Keats and Briden should figure in an even trade for him, however, is surprising. It probably means that Ross has too many stars elsewhere, but not enough speed in centre ice. Keats has more hockey brains than Fredrickson, perhaps, but he hasn't the high-strung temperament, or the flashing speed net-wards that is Fredrickson's forte. Fredrickson broke into professional hockey with Victoria and this change is his first since he led the Winnipeg Falcons to a world's amateur championship at the Olympic games.
1925 Cup Finals One Hundred and One Years of Hockey
Frank Fredrickson was an accomplished defensive forward who, in a Stanley Cup finals of 1924-25, drew the role of checking the great Morenz. He did, too, and the Victoria Cougars triumphed 3 games to 1."
In his great days with the Canadiens, Morenz ws almost impossible to stop. Lester Patrick thought he had the answer in the Stanley Cup final of 1925 when the defending Cup holders went west to engage Lester's Victoria Cougars. Patrick instructed his versatile 29-year-old center, Frank Fredrickson, to hound Morenz every move he made. Fredrickson had long been a star, and eye-catching player with his tall, lean build - an all elbows-and-knees kine of frame - and his long-striding skating style.
Indeed, he did stalk Morenz as the Cougars went to work on the visiting Habitants. They won the opening game 5-2 and the second 3-1, with Morenz and his famout No. 7 jersey rarely able to shake Fredrickson. But in the third game, with the possibility looming of a humiliating sweep, Morenz shook loose from his nemesis and scored a three-goal hat trick. The Canadiens won 4-2 and prolonged the series.
Fredrickson was far too experienced to regard Morenz's outburst as more than a temporary fluke. Back went the blanket in Game 4 as Morenz tired in the 60-minute ordeal. The Cougars won the Stanley Cup with a 6-1 clincher."
Calgary Daily Herald - Mar. 24, 1925 (Game 2)
Frank Fredrickson gave the finest exhibition of superlative centre ice work of the year. He skated rings around the Canadiens, snaked the puck from under their very feet, lost it, recovered by sheer speed, and fought right in to Vezina time after time. He tricked the veteran Cleghorn time after time. In fact, the Cougars did most of their penetrating in Cleghorn's territory, tricking him and skating aside as the old boy shot the body at them.
Calgary Daily Herald - Mar. 28, 1925 (Game 4)
Five minutes after the start Fredrickson, whose flashing attack was the bright light of the first period
, fooled Vezina with a wicked shot. Despite the terrific pressure by Victoria, Vezina failed to ease up on any more shots.
*We will see later that Frank Fredrickson was considered a good two-way player, but in the context of this Cup series, the credit for keeping the Canadiens and specifically Howie Morenz under wraps (other than his Game 3 hat trick) has to be spread around. Jack Walker, the old hook check master, was the Vics' best defender in open ice, and surely helped defend not only his own lane, but also the entire ice with his hook checking. Frank Foyston also got half of the icetime against Morenz, and seems to have played quite well. And then of course there is Lester Patrick, the old fox, the brain behind the system. So while it's a nice feather in Fredrickson's cap to have been part of a tight defensive pressure system that shut down the Flying Frenchmen, he was far from alone in the effort. - Sturminator
Sturminator's Statistical Analysis
I start off by only evaluating top-5 finishes in goals, assists and points. I think this fairly reflects the fact that scoring talent was split fairly evenly (and I believe it was) between the east and west during this era.
- For top-5 split-league finishes, in converting them to a modern equivalent, I use the following system:
(highest finish x 2 ) - 1
(second highest finish x 2)
(third highest finish x 2) -1
(fourth highest finish x 2)
(fifth highest finish x 2) -1
This done to mathematically represent the fact that, for example, a 1st place finish in a split-league scenario can realisitically represent either a 1st or a 2nd place finish in a consolidated format. A 2nd place finish can be either 3rd or 4th place, etc. I round up for the highest scoring finish, round down for the second highest, round up for the third highest, etc. I think this is the most rational system possible, though granularity based on known facts must also enter the equation at some point.
Ok...onto the statistical analysis. Jarek will again have to forgive me, but Duke Keats is really the perfect foil to Frederickson for a variety of reasons. They were born within three months of each other, both played their best years out west and competed against one another during the final two seasons of the western leagues after the PCHA folded in 1924, everybody migrated to the WCHL for the next season, the WCHL renamed itself the WHL in 1925 and then collapsed, itself, after the 25-26 season. Both men have one superdominant season out west - 21-22 for Keats and 22-23 for Frederickson. Both men, at the age of 31, also came over to the newly consolidated NHL and played with varying levels of success. At any rate, I hope everyone will recognize that the following comparison is not an attempt at competition with jarek, but rather simply the most apt comparison available.
Frederickson's scoring record seems to indicate that he was a fairly balanced scorer, with a stronger emphasis on playmaking than goalscoring. His PCHA finishes of 1st, 2nd, 2nd in assists are pretty much validated by his 3rd place placement in assists during his first NHL season. His points more of less follow his assists record, and the PCHA dominance (including the 22-23 season in which he roflstomped the league, scoring 55 points when the 2nd place finisher, Mickey MacKay, put up 40) is pretty well validated by his 4th place points finish in his first consolidated NHL season. It is, on the whole, I think a pretty impressive resume for an offensive center at this point in the draft.
Duke Keats' top-5 scoring placements - with modern conversions:
I was a bit shocked by Keats' scoring record because the book on him is that he was a brainy playmaking pivot, but the numbers tell a different story. I find it odd that Keats would have this reputation when he only placed top-5 in assists in three out of five seasons spent out west. Anyway, the Duke seems to have been a fairly balanced scorer, as well, but with more of an emphasis on goalscoring than playmaking.
Comparing the results shows pretty plainly, I think, that Frederickson was the superior offensive player. He was the better playmaker by a fairly wide margin and the better goalscorer by a smaller margin. Frederickson's very high level of play in his first NHL season (which saw him finish 3rd in Hart voting) is also pretty telling, and should make it clear that his dominance out west was not compiled against "soft" competition. Keats would also have scoring success in his first two seasons in the NHL, but nothing on the level of Frederickson's 26-27 performance.
A closer look at both players' super dominant seasons out west is also enlightening. Frederickson's big season was 22-23 when he crushed the PCHA scoring race with 55 points with Mickey MacKay in second place at 40 points, an undrafted in 3rd, Frank Foyston in 4th , an undrafted in 5th and an underrated guy (who I also compared numerically to Frederickson) who will be drafted very soon in 6th. Keats' big 21-22 season in the WCHL is rather less convincing. The Duke scored 55 points vs. a second place finish of 33 points, but all of the other players on the leaderboard are undrafteds, and the best of the bunch won't be taken for another hundred picks, or so. Now I realize that using ATD draft position as a barometer of offensive prowess is a very shady form of analysis, but I think the difference in competition is quite clear in this case.
At any rate, going by the numbers, Frederickson beats Keats pretty handily, especially in playmaking. I'll leave Duke Keats alone now. The rest of what I have on Frederickson is descriptive newspaper clippings which should help to flesh out who he was as a player and a person.
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NHL 1st Team All Star: 1984 NHL 2nd Team All Star: 1985 and 1993
Team USA: 1984 and 1987 Canada Cup, 1986 WC's, 2002 Winter Olympics
In his rookie NHL season, Barrasso won the Vezina Trophy as the leagues best netminder and the Calder Trophy as the top rookie thanks to a 26-12-3 record and a 2.84 GAA. He was named to the first all star team.
After his spectacular season, Barrasso was being hailed as the best goalie in the world by many. He confirmed his elite status by representing Team USA at the 1984 Canada Cup, and then by improving his second season NHL totals to 25-28-10 and a 2.66 GAA. He shared the Jennings trophy and was named to the second team all stars.
Barrasso and Bob Sauve had battled for the starters job much of the previous two seasons, but the Sabres ended the goaltending controversy by trading Sauve and declaring Barrasso as their number one man. Barrasso's playing time increased but his numbers fell.
Early in the 1988-89 season, Barrasso was traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins. Pittsburgh's powerful offense, led by Mario Lemieux and Paul Coffey, needed some defensive help. Barrasso proved to be that help, as he was an important part of back to back Stanley Cup championships in 1991 and 1992.
Just after the start of the 1988-89 season, Barrasso was traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins. Pittsburgh's powerful offense needed some defensive help and having Barrasso in the crease was a major piece of the championship puzzle for the Penguins. In 1991 and 1992 Pittsburgh won the Stanley Cup, due in large part to Barrasso's outstanding play in the net.
During the 1996 playoffs there were flashes of the old brilliance and in particular in the Penguins' series against the Florida Panthers. Barrasso later became the first American born goalie to win 300 career NHL games.
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - May 27, 1991 (after the first Cup victory)
Barrasso played Game 6 against the Minnesota North Stars Saturday night as if it were his last game. He took one for the team - a shot of pain-killer to the groin - then stood up to the North Stars' Neal Broten, who ran him in the opening seconds, stood up to 39 shots, stood up to his critics who long tormented him by saying he can't win the big games.
For a guy who was a questionable starter - the missed the final two periods of Game 5 Thursday night with a pulled groin muscle - Barrasso was at the top of the Penguins' long list of heroes in their 8-0 Cup-clinching victory.
"There was no question in my mind I wasn't going to miss this game," Barrasso said. "I was here to play. I had Dr. [Chip] Burke give me a shot to numb up my groin. I felt nothing the entire game. I've got the whole summer to recuperate."
... Barrasso had an answer for everything the North Stars tried.
... "The shutout is really irrelevant," Barrasso said. "The Cup is all that matters."
... The shutout, the first in the finals since 1986, was fairly indicative of Barrasso's play in the postseason. He finishes with a 12-7 record and had the best goals-against average (2.60) and save percentage (.919) of the playoff goaltenders. He easily could have won the Conn Smythe MVP award if Mario Lemieux had not played so spectacularly in the final three games against Minnesota.
Barrasso certainly has Samuelsson's endorsement. "With this team, you start with Mario Lemieux. He's half of the team. Then, you add Tom Barrasso. After that, anybody could go out there and win."
St. Louis Post-Dispatch - June 3, 1992
CHICAGO - Pittsburgh star Mario Lemieux gazed at the Conn Smythe Trophy sitting on a table beside him Monday night at Chicago Stadium and wondered whether he deserved it.
He already had one ''Connie Smythe,'' as he called it, in his trophy case at home. He felt that Penguins goalie Tom Barrasso might have been a better choice this year for the award given to the most valuable player of the Stanley Cup playoffs. ''I thought it was Tommy all the way,'' Lemieux said. ''He was superb the last three games of the Washington series, when we came back from a 3-1 deficit. ''He played unbelievable when we swept Boston. This should have gone to him, that's for sure.''
Instead, the big guy, Super Mario, collected his second successive Conn Smythe to go with the Penguins' second successive Stanley Cup. Pittsburgh wrapped up their Cup defense Monday night with a 6-5 victory over the Chicago Blackhawks to complete a four-game sweep. Barrasso, 27, finished a distant second in the MVP voting, but he said he didn't feel the least bit slighted. To him, it was a team accomplishment.
There was a time a couple of years ago when I claimed Scotty Bowman's time as the premiere coach in hockey was at an end because of the way he single-handedly crushed the Penguins' hopes at three-peating as Stanley Cup Champs. Amongst the rationales I had for this somewhat unorthodox claim was the way he ran goaltender Tom Barrasso into the ground by having him start the last third of the season in quest of a relatively meaningless unbeaten streak record. Sure enough, Barrasso went cold in the second round as the Penguins lost to the lowly Islanders, and Bowman had allowed Ken Wregget to practically atrophy by not playing him.
[long list of Penguins who played poorly in the Washington series]...
As shown above, a lot of changes have to be made if the Penguins want to get back to the playoffs and be effective. General Manager Craig Patrick has a big task ahead of him. He has to find a way to replace an aging defensive corp to help out Tom Barrasso (who had an excellent playoff series) in net and create a balanced offense that can be more efficient in the playoffs. Good luck, Mr. Patrick. You're going to need it.
Tom Barrasso' chicken pox ('92-'93 season) - Once again, not really an injury, but it cost Tommy 10 games that year. Considering how good the Penguins were that year, it's not out of the question to think that Tommy starts 9 of those games and wins at least 7 of them, making him the first and only 50 game winner in NHL history.
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- 6'0, 187Ibs, Shoots-Right, Born: 10/29/1959 In Ottawa, Ontario
- Member Of The HHOF (2001)
- Canada Cup Champion, 2 Times (1984, 1987)
- IIHF World Championships Bronze Medal, 2 Times (1982, 1983)
- Top 11 In All-Star Voting, 8 Times (8th-1981, 7th-1983, 9th-1984, 4th-1985, 11th-1986, 6th-1987, 4th-1988, 5th-1992)
- Top 10 In Goals, 5 Times (10th-1981, 9th-1985, 9th-1988, 9th-1990, 5th-1991)
- Top 10 In Points (10th-1985)
- Top 7 In Power-Play Goals, 4 Times (2nd-1985, 3rd-1990, 2nd-1991, 7th-1997)
- Top 5 In Short-Handed Goals, 3 Times (2nd-1987, 5th-1990, 2nd-1994)
- Top 5 in Game-Winning Goals, 3 Times (5th-1984, 2nd-1985, 2nd-1987)
- Top 5 In Shots, 5 Times (2nd-1981, 5th-1984, 3rd-1985, 2nd-1987, 3rd-1988)
- NHL All-Star Games, 7 Times (1981, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1993, 1996)
- NHL All-Star Game MVP (1993)
- NHL's Fastest Skater at All-Star Game Skills Competition, 3 Times (1991, 1993, 1996)
- Ranked number 89 on The Hockey News' list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players '1998.
- NHL record for most consecutive 30-goal seasons - 15* (Tied)
- NHL record for most 30-goal seasons - 17
- NHL record for most goals in an All-Star Game (1993) - 4 Goals* (Tied)
- NHL record for fastest two goals from the start of an All-Star Game (1993) - in 3:37
- NHL Skills Competition record fastest time (1996) - 13.386 seconds
- Jersey number #11 retired by Washington Capitals December 28, 2008.
Originally Posted By NHL Source
Despite his long impressive career, Gartner never won the Stanley Cup or played in the Cup Finals, never won an NHL award, and was never named to the postseason All-Star Team, being one of the few Hockey Hall of Fame inductees to hold this distinction. Only Phil Housley has played in more games (1495) than Gartner without winning the Cup.
He was a member of the New York Rangers team that would go on to win the championship in 1994, but he was traded to Toronto at the trade deadline. However, Gartner got farther than he ever would in the playoffs that same year, as the Maple Leafs made it to the Western Conference Finals before losing to the Vancouver Canucks in 5 games. He was traded close to the NHL trading deadline three times in his career, and had a knack for producing immediately for those teams, as in a combined 35 games with his new teams during the regular season after the mid-season deals, he had 24 goals, 18 assists, 42 points, and a +16 rating.
Gartner was noted for his consistency during his career, as he did not miss a game in eight of his nineteen NHL seasons, and he led his team in goals nine times during his career. He holds an NHL record of 15 consecutive 30+ goal seasons—a streak that was ended by the 1994–95 NHL lockout that shortened the season to 48 games. Jaromír Jágr tied this streak in 2007. Despite only once scoring 50 goals in a single season, Gartner became only the fifth player in NHL history to reach 700 goals (subsequently, Brett Hull also achieved the 700 goal milestone).
Gartner was also known for his blazing on-ice speed and ability to beat defenders down the ice.
Originally Posted By HHOF Always one of the fastest skaters in the NHL, Michael Alfred Gartner used his blazing speed and a hard, accurate shot to become one of the most consistent scorer's in league history, most of his 19 seasons of which were spent outside hockey's limelight.
In 1997-98, he became just the fifth player to reach the 700-goal plateau, a remarkable feat for perhaps the most consistent and unnoticed scorer the game has ever seen. Along with his consecutive 30-or-more goal seasons record of 15 straight years (a streak broken only by the labour troubles in 1994-95), Gartner also holds the NHL record for most 30-or-more goal seasons in a career with 17. He finished second all-time in goals for a right-winger and 5th overall (708), 5th all-time in assists by a right-winger (627), 4th all-time in points by a right-winger (1,335) and 7th on the all-time games played list (1,335).
Originally Posted By Joe Pelletier
When you think of great goal scorers, one often forgets the name Mike Gartner. But year after year after year Gartner has racked up an overwhelming amount of goals that places him near the top.
Very quietly, Mike Gartner scored 708 career goals. Only Phil Esposito (717), Marcel Dionne (731), Brett Hull (741), Gordie Howe (801) and Wayne Gretzky (894) have scored more often. Mike Gartner scored more career goals than the much flashier and much more celebrated Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier, Steve Yzerman, Bobby Hull, Guy Lafleur and Mike Bossy.
Yet somehow Mike Gartner doesn't usually get the same accolades as all the pre-mentioned superstars. In 1997, when The Hockey News assembled a panel to determine the top 100 hockey players in NHL history, Gartner ranked 89th.
How is this so? Unlike his statistical peers Gartner never has had an explosive season of 60 or 70 goals that ranks among the great seasons in NHL history. In fact, Gartner only reached the 50 goal plateau on one occasion (1984-85).
So how did he become the leagues 5th highest goal scorer ever?
Over 19 seasons Gartner showed great consistency while playing for the Washington Capitals, Minnesota North Stars, New York Rangers, Toronto Maple Leafs, and lastly the Phoenix Coyotes. Gartner has scored at least 30 goals in 17 of his 19 seasons. He scored at least 30 in his first 15 consecutive years in the league,only to miss in the 48-game schedule lockout shortened season in 1995. He followed that up with 2 more 30 goal seasons before an injury riddled campaign finished off his career in 1998.
All that consistency might rank him high on the all time goal scoring list after a 19 year career, but not on the all time greatest players list. He played in relative obscurity with the Washington Capitals for the first decade of his career. He would later play in the shadows of Mark Messier and Brian Leetch in New York, and Doug Gilmour and Mats Sundin in Toronto. He also spent short stints in Minnesota and Phoenix. Though he played an important role with Team Canada in two Canada Cup victories and four world championships, he still never really got the recognition he deserved.
In addition, he played in the right wing shadows of the likes of Guy Lafleur, Mike Bossy, Jari Kurri, Brett Hull and Jaromir Jagr. Gartner never made a NHL all star team, and never was in contention for any NHL post season award. Unlike his great peers, he never won a Stanley Cup.
Mike Gartner will always be remembered for his exceptional speed. His technical form was flawless and powerful. He had a great stride with really deep knee bends. His legs pumped like pistons, making him one of the fastest skaters of his time. A concerted defensive player, Gartner teamed really well with Mark Messier and Glenn Anderson in the Canada Cup, and because he had the speed to keep up with Soviet superstars Sergei Makarov and Vladimir Krutov.
More often than not Gartner used his speed to create offense. There have been a lot of incredibly fast skaters in the NHL, but very few who could handle the puck and make plays in top gear like Gartner could. He had a nice play where he'd bounce the puck off the nearby boards and then speed around a flatfooted defenseman, as if he was passing to himself. But more often than not he would try driving to the net to unleash a deadly accurate wrist shot or an absolute cannon of a slap shot. If he couldn't get around the defenseman, Gartner would typically zip around the net and try a wrap around attempt.
Gartner wasn't much of a playmaker, though he did score 627 career assists. He wasn't an overly physical player, but he was definitely not afraid to play in traffic and drive to the net. He was exceptional at protecting the puck from the opposition even at such high speeds. Not a body cruncher, Gartner would finish his checks usually by rubbing players out along the wall.
Mike Gartner was a really good player on some pretty average teams. Because of his ageless legs and a cannon of a shot, he was always looked to as a go to guy on these teams. He was as consistent as consistent could be, but he was never dominant for any length of time. Largely because of his career totals a high scoring era where players played longer than ever before, Gartner was included in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
It will be interesting to see how well history remembers this 700 goal scorer.
According to the "Player Intangibles" thread various Coaches,Players, and Magazine Polls from roughly 1990-1994 gave votes to Mike Gartner in several categories. So basically this means that Mike Gartner was viewed as around a top-5 or so player in the league at that time in the following categories.
(Best Skater, Fastest Skater, Best Shot, Hardest Worker, Best Penalty-Killer, Best Defensive Forward and even Best Power Forward)
I think this gives us a general view of just how well-rounded and multi-talented of a player Mike Gartner was?
Originally Posted By Hockey Almanac 1993-1994 A bona-fide goal-scorer, Gartner moves around the ice like a hungry shark with the scent. He is very solid on his skates and very tough-although his placid nature keeps him from retaliating against the cheap shots he absorbs. His slap shot is among the best in the game. Gartner also takes pride in- and earns tremendous respect for- his defensive play.
Mike Gartner has been the consummate competitor, fighting for every inch of ice, battling for every loose puck, and always giving his total effort for the benefit of the team.
WILL...........light the lamp
EXPECT............a winning attitude
DON'T EXPECT...........an off night
Originally Posted By Ultimate Hockey
The thing that impressed people from the very start about Gartner was his incredible speed. "I have a God-given ability to skate," said Washington's young buck. "I haven't really worked on my legs at all during my career. The speed is just there."
Fastest Skater Of The 1980's
Finest Athlete Of The 1980's
Originally Posted By The Ultimate A-Z Guide Of Everyone Who Has Ever Played In The NHL
T13th Hart '73 with 1 point
3 RW AST '73
T5 RW AST '75 with 3 points
8 RW AST '70 with 2 points
x5 NHL All-Star Game appearances ('64, '68, '73, '74, '75)
x2 Stanley Cup winner ('65, '67)
x1 Top 10 Goals (6th in '73)
x1 Top 10 Points (10th in '73)
x3 Top 10 Even Strength Goals (5th in '73, 7th in '69, 9th in '72)
x4 Top 5 Shooting Percentage (2nd in '75, 3rd in '73, 5th in '70, 5th in '72)
x2 Top 10 Shooting Percentage (6th in '71, 7th in '74)
Originally Posted by LoH
As property of the Leafs, he arrived in time to have Punch Imlach as his boss. Pappin credits Imlach for pushing him to become a better two-way player. But otherwise, the two found little common ground, especially regarding matters of money.
As such, Pappin played well enough to make the club each year from 1963-68. But during those years, Imlach took advantage of any opportunity to demote his right winger to the minors. Pappin, however, refused to languish in the AHL. He was just too useful, especially during the playoffs of 1967. In the sixth and deciding game of the finals against Montreal, Pappin tossed a backhand pass to Pete Stemkowski. But the puck hit Canadiens' defenseman Terry Harper and slipped into the net. The goal stood as the Stanley Cup winner, the last the Leafs enjoyed.
Pappin toiled for one additional year with the Leafs before Imlach sent him to Chicago. There, "Pappy" settled in as a permanent NHLer. Skating right wing with Pit Martin and Dennis Hull, he scored 216 goals during their seven seasons together.
In 1975, Pappin was traded to the California Golden Seals where he played in 31 contests before the club relocated to Cleveland. He hung in for one final campaign with the Barons and then retired in 1977-78.
Originally Posted by Pelletier
He also had three stints with Toronto, always creating a puzzle to why a player of his talent - good speed, fine shot and combative attitude - could miss.
The turnaround for Jim was when Leafs coach / GM Punch Imlach put him on a line together with Pete Stemkowski and Bob Pulford. They clicked immediately and led Toronto to the Stanley Cup. Jim scored the Cup winning goal in 1967, the last time Toronto won the Stanley Cup. "You can't top anything like that," Jim said. " That is something you can only dream of."
Jim couldn't quite match his fine effort the following season and only scored 13 goals in 58 games. Unfortunately Jim's days in Toronto were numbered when he couldn't get along with Punch Imlach. Jim always said what was on his mind and that didn't sit well with his coaches. Don Cherry - who coached Jim in Rochester - recalled in his book that Jim had "the most cutting tongue of any person I have ever met, cruel and to the point."
Jim was shipped to Chicago on May 23 for Pierre Pilote and spent the next seven seasons in the Windy City.
Jim mostly played on a line together with Pit Martin and Dennis Hull. They were dubbed the "M.P.H. Line" Jim had a very productive career in Chicago (30, 28, 22, 27, 41, 32, 36 goals and 70, 53, 45, 48, 92, 73, 63 points), but never got the appreciation from the Chicago fans or press that he deserved. His relationship with reporters was never good due to his sharp tongue and bluntness. But the fans probably didn't appreciate his play as much as they should have. Maybe it was because he was never afraid to make an unorthodox move just to foil the opposition. When the play backfired he could look bad personally. But he was always willing to sacrifice his own glory for the team's benefit.
Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - Apr 13, 1967
Right winger Jim Pappin, the big goal-getter during the last part of the season and the first three games of the playoffs, may be lost to Toronto Maple Leafs for the fourth game of the Stanley Cup semifinals. Pappin suffered an injured ankle after scoring his second goal of the best-of seven series against the Chicago Black Hawks.
Pappin, demoted to the Leafs' farm club at Rochester at the mid-way mark of the season, came back to score 13 goals in the final 26 games and became only the second Toronto player to score 20 goals or more. He finished with 21, one fewer than teammate Ron Ellis.
Originally Posted by The Windsor Star - Apr 12, 1986
It was 19 years ago that Toronto Maple Leafs and Chicago Black Hawks met in the Stanley Cup playoffs. The Leafs, with Bob Pulford and Jim Pappin playing prominent roles, bounced the Hawks in six games, enroute to their most recent Cup triumph.
"I remember our line getting all the goals in that series," said Pulford as he reminisced about that series. "Well, Jim and Pete (Stemkowski) did the scoring not me-I didn't get any. We were put together to check Stan's (Mikita) line and ended up doing most of the scoring," added Pulford. Pappin led the playoffs in scoring that year with seven goals and eight assists with Stemkowski right behind him.
Trade to Chicago and role on MPH line
Originally Posted by The Leader-Post - Oct 12, 1968
Jim Pappin may never replace Bobby Hull, but it looks as if he will be a valuable addition to Chicago Black Hawks. Pappin, obtained by Chicago in an off-season trade with Toronto Maple Leafs, scored two goals Friday night as the Black Hawks opened their National Hockey League season with a 4-3 victory against St. Louis Blues.
The 29-year-old Pappin spent most of last season in hot water with manager-coach Punch Imlach of Toronto. The Sudbury, Ont., product was traded to the Black Hawks for veteran defenceman Pierre Pilote. It was expected that Pappin would play on a line with Hull and Pit Martin this season, but Hull's retirement[holdout] ended that possibility. Pappin proved Friday, however, that he can put the puck into the net without Hull's help, and it was good news for the Black Hawks.
Originally Posted by Reading Eagle - Oct 24, 1968
Jim Pappin is out of the dog house and doing plenty of barking with the Chicago Black Hawks. Pappin, who was traded off by Coach Punch Imlach of the Toronto Maple Leafs because the two couldn't get along. Pappin scored his seventh and eighth goals of the season last night.
Originally Posted by The Milwaukee Journal - May 10, 1973
Perhaps it is not a coincidence that the resurrection of the Chicago Black Hawks and the resurrection of right wing Jim Pappin occurred almost simultaneously. Pappin, 33, had one of the best seasons of his 10 year National Hockey League career in 1972-73. And through the first two rounds of the Stanley Cup playoffs, Pappin was having his best cup series ever for the Black Hawks. But since the might Montreal Canadiens skated onto the scene for the final series, Pappin had played in near obscurity, taking his regular turns with Chicago's MPH line-Pit Martin, Pappin, and Dennis Hull-and having very little to show for it. That all changed Tuesday night in Montreal in a hockey game that left fans and television viewers gasping for breath and writers and broadcasters grasping for adjectives. Pappin scored two goals-his only other goal of the final series had been a shot into an empty net in the Black Hawks' 7-4 victory last Thursday night-and provided a great deal of the impetus toward Chicago's 8-7 upset of the Canadiens.
Going into the game Tuesday night, the Black Hawks were supposed to be dead. They had a 3-1 deficit in the best of seven series to make up, and the third Montreal victory had been a 4-0 coaster ride Sunday in Chicago look as inferior as a youth hockey team. Pappin was clearly a key to the big Black Hawk reversal, and a call by referee Bruce Hood late in the first period seemed to start Pappin's own reversal.
Hood, who had slapped five previous misconducts on Pappin this season, sent the veteran for 10 minutes Tuesday night when Pappin protested that no penalty was called after he was whacked from behind in a scramble around the Montreal net. Pappin sat and stewed in the penalty box for the final five minutes of the first period and the opening five minutes of the second. Then, about five minutes after he had become eligible to play again, Pappin scored an unassisted goal to tie the score at 5-5... Pappin scored a crucial goal that sent the teams into the dressing room between the second and third periods with Chicago ahead, 7-5. Pappin had a shot at a hat trick in the last minute...Pappin had the puck and a clear shot at the empty net, but instead slipped the puck to Hull who shot it into a sliding Serge Savard. Asked later why he hadn't gone for the hat trick, Pappin replied, "Dennis is getting close to the point record. He needed it worse than I did."
Originally Posted by The News and Courier - Apr 8, 1973
Pappin scored...by rebounding a shot...St. Louis, physically outclassed from then on out, yielded a final goal as Pappin's slapshot zoomed past netminder Jacques Caron.
Originally Posted by The Palm Beach Post - Dec 19, 1968
Both of Pappin's goals came on centering passes from the corner by Dennis Hull with Pappin parked in front of New York goalie Ed Giacomin.
Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - Feb 17, 1972
Jim Pappin scored twice in six seconds...
Originally Posted by The Calgary Herald - Dec 13, 1972
Jim Pappin, a workman-like performer of recent Black Hawks years...
Originally Posted by The Telegraph-Herald - Dec 1, 1970
The contest was a rough one, with the main brawl late in the first period matching Jim Pappin, Keith Magnuson and Dan Maloney against Boston's Don Awrey, Johnny McKenzie, and Ted Green.
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•1st Team PCHA All Star in 1924
•2nd Team PCHA All Star in 1921, 1922, 1923
•Captain of the 1925 Victoria Cougars, the*only WCHL team to win the Stanley Cup
•First captain of the Detroit Cougars, predecessor to the Detroit Red Wings
•Played in the World Championships for Canada in 1935
Originally Posted by LOH
*Clement Loughlin played briefly with the Detroit Cougars and Chicago Black Hawks in the late 20s. He was a solid positional player who used his hard shot to score a few goals over the years. Most of his pro hockey was played in the PCHA where the more wide-open style suited his talents.
Born in Carroll, Manitoba Loughlin played senior hockey with the Winnipeg Monarchs and Strathconas before joining the PCHA's Portland Rosebuds in 1916-17. After one more year in Oregon, he joined the Victoria Cougars and was an integral part of the club's fortunes for eight years. Along the way he hit double figures in goals scored twice, was placed on the PCHA second all-star team three times and named to the first team in 1924. In 1925 he got his hands on the Stanley Cup after the Cougars vanquished the Montreal Canadiens in the final series. Loughlin remained with Victoria when it joined the WCHL/WHL after the demise of the PCHA.
In May, 1926, Loughlin became a member of the Detroit Cougars after the entire Victoria team was purchased by the NHL expansion club. He provided stability on defence for two years in Motown before he was sent to the Chicago Black Hawks for cash. After playing 24 games in the Windy City in 1928-29, Loughlin spent the rest of the schedule with the Kitchener Millionaires of the Can-Pro League.
NHL Top 20 finishes
Assists: 7th, 9th, 13th
PIMs: 12th, 15th, 15th
Top 6 points finishes among teammates: 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 6th
1934 Stanley Cup champion (Chicago)
1938 Stanley Cup champion (Chicago)
Tied for 3rd in a 1934 writers poll for "fastest skater" behind Howie Morenz and Busher Jackson
Awarded a "Retroactive Selke" by Ultimate Hockey for 1939
One of the first players to make the jump directly from junior to the NHL
17 year career, all with the Chicago Blackhawks
Scored the first goal in the long history of Maple Leaf Gardens on November 12, 1931. On February 13, 1999 as part of the final game played at the Gardens (also between the Maple Leafs and Blackhawks), he officiated at the ceremonial opening faceoff - with the very same puck that he had used to score that first goal, almost 68 years later.
He became the first recorded player in hockey history to win the Stanley Cup for his team on an overtime goal.
He was last surviving member of Black Hawks 1934 Stanley Cup team.
Clutch playoff performer:
Since the Black Hawks were not an overly successful team during most of those 17 years, March only played in a total of 25 playoff games, but he made the most of those 25 games by scoring 7 goals, 12 assists for 19 points.
Originally Posted by Joe Pelletier
Harold "Mush" March was a fiery little right wing who played his entire career of 17 years with the Chicago Blackhawks. Dit Clapper is the only player of this early era who exceeded March's record of service with one club.
... He was not the greatest scorer of his time, but he had a penchant for scoring famous goals. It was Mush March who scored the very first goal ever scored in Maple Leaf Gardens when the Leafs and Hawks played the very first game there in 1931-32, as Chicago won the game and sent fans home disappointed that the Leafs lost the first ever game played in that famous stadium.
March reached his peak in 1933-34 when teamed with Doc Romnes and Paul Thompson. He scored the winning goal to oust the Canadiens in the first round and was the man who won the Blackhawks very first Stanley Cup with his goal at 10:05 of the second overtime period - the only goal of the game - that clinched the Stanley Cup against Detroit.
The Romnes-Thompson-March line played together another four years following that Stanley Cup win, quietly being one of the most feared units in hockey. The line was driven by the diminutive March. Just 5'5" and 155lbs, the spunky right winger mixed it up with the roughest players in the league, as his penalty records attest. His timely scoring and abrasive approach made him very popular with the Chicago fans and became the standard of comparison for all right wing candidates for the team.
Although Chicago finished third in the American Division in 1937-38, led by March, Romnes and Thompson, the Blackhawks provided one of the biggest upsets in NHL history when they beat the Toronto Maple Leafs 3 games to 1 to win the Stanley Cup. March suffered a groin injury in game one of the finals and he was missed as Toronto won game two. But March came back for game three and four and Chicago won the Cup.
There were changes in the Chicago lineup for 1938-39. Romnes and Thompson were replaced by Johnny Gottselig and Cully Dahlstrom, but the mighty mite March carried on at right wing and continued his unselfish play. A couple of years later he was teamed together with the magical Bentley brothers, Max and Doug, and the veteran could still skate with the young fellows.
Originally Posted by Howie Morenz, 1935
And while I'm on the subject of outstanding men, I might add that Harvey Jackson of Toronto is probably the best and fastest wing in the game. About the only way to stop Harvey is the close down the rink. Jimmy Ward of the Montreal Maroons is another player who scorches the ice. The same is true of King Clancy of the Toronto Maple Leafs and young Mush March of our Chicago Blackhawks, who also owns blistering speed; the boy is a fine competitor, too.
In 2001, Marsh was selected as one of three right wings to the 75th anniversary team of the Chicago Blackhawks:
Harold "Mush" March -- In his 17 seasons with the Hawks, this 5''5", 155-pound right wing helped his team to their first-ever Stanley Cup during the 1933-34 season. Nicknamed "Mush" after a famously small Canadian cartoon character, March's two-way play and Cup-winning overtime goal have made him a Blackhawks legend.
In 1969 the head coach of the Swedish national team invited a 17-year-old named Anders Hedberg to join the national team, but his studies prevented him from accepting. Hedberg made his first appearance in the national lineup the following year and immediately proved he was a player with great talent. He was even nicknamed "the New Tumba" after 1950s Swedish hockey star Sven "Tumba" Johansson. Hedberg played 100 official games for Sweden.
One of Hedberg's most memorable goals was the third one he scored against Vladislav Tretiak in the 1976 Canada Cup tournament. On a perfect pass from defenseman Borje Salming, Hedberg went one on one with the Soviet goalkeeper and tied the score 3-3.
By this time, he had already left Stockholm's Djurgarden and joined the Winnipeg Jets in the newly formed World Hockey Association. In what was perhaps the happiest time in his sports career, Hedberg played with teammate Ulf Nilsson on the same line as the legendary Canadian hockey player Bobby Hull?a line that was then considered the best in the WHA. Hull often stated that he'd never had partners who had mastered the fine points of hockey as well as the two Swedes, Hedberg and Nilsson. Bobby Hull scored his 1,000th career goal while playing in the lineup with the two Scandinavians.
After the demise of the WHA, Hedberg played seven seasons with the New York Rangers for a total of 465 games in which he scored 172 goals. In a ceremony during the 1997 World Championship in Finland, Anders Hedberg and Tumba Johansson were among those inducted into the European Hockey Hall of Fame.
Originally Posted by The Leader-Post - May 2, 1977
Anders Hedberg, the Swedish Express, enjoyed his most productive game of the playoffs Sunday night and it moved Winnipeg Jets into the driver's seat in their World Hockey Association Series with Houston Aeros. Hedberg, who scored a record 50 goals in 47 games this season and finshed with a total of 70, scored three goals and added two assists as Winnipeg defeated Houston 6-4 in Winnipeg.
"That was Anders best game of the playoffs," said a smiling Winnipeg coach Bobby Kromm Sunday. "He did absolutely everything a coach could ask for." That included setting up two timely goals, scoring the game winner, killing penalties, directing the power play and playing his regular shift."
Originally Posted by Sports Illustrated - "A Revival is a Smash Off Broadway" Nov 20, 1978
The Rangers have also received a lift from those celebrated newcomers. Anders Hedberg and Ulf Nilsson, the swift-skating Swedes who last summer signed two-year contracts with New York for around $1 million apiece, making them hockey's highest-paid performers.
Hedberg, blonde and bowlegged at right wing, has three goals and is tied with Greschner for the team lead with nine assists. "But what has helped most is their honesty," Shero says. "They go into the corner for the puck and take the body, and they don't care who's coming. And if they're supposed to go in front of the net, they go."
And it was with an apologetic air that they said they hoped to improve their play. "I think I could be passing and backchecking a little better," Hedberg said. He was careful to add, "But we're winning, so it's not important."
Originally Posted by Sports Illustrated - For the Rangers, The Puck Stops Here Apr 30, 1979
A shorthanded goal by Anders Hedberg was the second of three the Rangers scored against the Flyers in the first four games of the series, surpassing the total allowed by Philadelphia in the entire regular season.
There was also some nice irony in Hedberg's goal. A disciple of the European style of play so foreign to the pugnacious Flyers, Hedberg had been speared in the first period by Stephenson, and responded by getting into his second fight of the series with Stephenson—a questionable move against a masked goaltender. Hedberg was later high-sticked by Paul Holmgren to the tune of five stitches. Hedberg responded with a great game—he was clearly the best man on the ice. Afterward, ice bag on his forehead, he mused about his opponents. "They're not going to die. I wish they would, but they won't. I want to beat these guys really bad. They don't represent the way I think the game should be played. That's not tough hockey they play."
Is it dirty? he was asked. Is it chippy? Hedberg rolled his eyes in the direction of his gash. On his chest was a gouge from a spear. "I'm not saying. Don't put anything in my mouth. Please."
Originally Posted by The Leader-Post - May 8, 1979
The 28-year old Hedberg has scored only two goals in the playoffs but his value along right wing on the Walt Tkaczuk checking line has been immense. "It's not a question of adjusting," says Hedberg of his checking role in the playoffs. "There's less pressure that you have to score and more pressure to play a sound game, a more conservative game. Fine, we have to accept that and play it as it is.
"We are all doing what Freddie (Shero) is asking of us, doing our best. There's no way to beating the Islanders without playing together."...Shero himself has called Hedberg and Nilsson two of the most intelligent players he's ever seen.
Originally Posted by Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1984 Season by Zander Hollander
Brilliant, fluid playmaker and extraordinary individual...Checks hard, shoots well and skates like the wind...
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4x Top 10 Norris Voting(5, 7, 9, 10*)
4x Top 13 All Star Voting(7, 12, 13, 13)
9th Hart Voting
3x Top 5 Goals Among Defensemen(1, 5, 5)
3x Top 7 Assists Among Defensemen(2, 5, 7)
4x Top 9 Points Among Defensemen(3, 4, 8, 9)
Of 4 full NHL seasons, the Red Wings reached the SC Finals in 3 of them
During 4 year peak(only 4 full years in NHL):
3rd in goals
3rd in assists
4th in points(90% of 2nd place Howell)
Lethbridge, Alberta's Doug Barkley was a big and physical defenseman who started his NHL career at a late age and had it end far too early.
He could have become one of the most dominant defensemen of his time if it was not for a career ending eye injury.
In fact, he was so good that legendary hockey scribe Stan Fischler once compared Barkley to a latter day Larry Robinson.
"Tall, tough and tenacious, Barkley was a Larry Robinson before the latter arrived on the scene to redefine defensemen's play for the Montreal Canadiens," Fischler wrote.
After his All Star season in the WHL, Barkley was a hot commodity again in the NHL marketplace. The Hawks ended up trading the 26 year old to the Detroit Red Wings for 2 players - Len Lunde and John McKenzie - on June 5 1962.
Finally getting a chance to play in the NHL, Barkley responded positively by scoring 3 goals and 24 assists in 70 games in the '62-63 season. His performance finished second only to Toronto defenseman Kent Douglas in Calder Trophy balloting. Both Barkley and Douglas spent a long time in the minors before playing regularly in the NHL.
Barkley followed his rookie season with a promising second NHL campaign. Known for his size (6'2" 185lbs) and aggressiveness (he had 382 PIM in only 253 games), Doug added a bit of an offensive element to his game that he had previously shown in the WHL. Doug scored 11 times and assisted on 21 others.
Some critics might suggest it is illogical to place a player among the elite in franchise history if he only played 4 seasons for the Detroit Red Wings, but Doug Barkley deserves to be an exception.
Tall, tough and tenacious, Barkley was a Larry Robinson before the latter arrived on the scene to refine defensemen's play for the Montreal Canadiens a decade after Doug was forced to retire because of an eye injury.
A gifted defenseman during the NHL's six team era...
Handling offense as well as defense with consummate ease, Barkley was quickly touted as the find of the year. During an era when defensemen played defense, Barkley led all backliners in scoring...As Doug's play improved, so did the Red Wings'. In 1964-65, Detroit finished on top of the NHL for the first time in 8 years and loomed as a playoff contender as long as Barkley patrolled the defense.
Until he suffered a career-ending eye injury, Doug Barkley was a towering force on the Detroit defense.
From his very first game as a big leaguer, Barkley proved that the Red Wings were wise in signing him. "My football training was a big help to me," he explained. "I had good timing and I could hit. I had a knack of bolstering our forwards. The other teams knew that I could hit, and if anyone on our club got into trouble, the opposition knew that I would back up our guys.
But, he is fondly remembered for his stint as one of the best defensemen ever to wear the Red Wings' uniform.
2x NHL All Star Game Participant
1x Stanley Cup Champion
Lester Patrick Trophy Winner, 1998
1x Olympic Gold Medalist
3x Top 18 Selke Voting (7, 13, 18)
7th in All Star Voting
8th in Hart Voting
5x Top 17 Assists (5, 13, 13, 15, 17)
13th in APG 86-87(played 46 games)
3x Top 25 Points (5, 14, 25)
18th in PPG 86-87(played 46 games)
2x Top 10 Playoff Goals (7, 10)
2x Top 10 Playoff Assists (5, 10)
2x Top 9 Playoff Points (3, 9)
38% career PK Usage
Relevant Vs2 Seasons: 85*, 74, 71, 67, 66, 62, 60**
*-projected over 80 games, only played 46
**Vs3, top 2 were outliers
For the next five years Neal's star would shine. He was runner up to rookie of the year, Dale Hawerchuk, in 1981-82. He scored 405 points in his first five seasons and led his team in scoring in three of those years. The entire line of Broten-MacArthy-Ciccerelli was invited to play at the 1983 All-Star game. In 1985-86 he scored a career high 105 points which marked the first time that a U.S. born player has ever reached the 100 point mark.
After the injury, Broten's game eventually evolved into a more defensive style. His scoring was down, but he became one the NHL's premiere penalty killers and he was often seen playing the point on the powerplay. In 1989, he was paired with Mike Gartner and Brian Bellows and for the first half of the season, they were one of the hottest trio's in the league.
The state of Minnesota has yet to produce a hockey player as revered and accomplished as Neil Broten. After a successful high school career with the Roseau Rams, he went to play for the University of Minnesota's Gophers under the direction of Herb Brooks.
All told, Broten remained with the Stars' organization for 15 of his 17 big-league seasons. He is the franchise's all-time leader in scoring, assists, games played, seasons, shorthanded goals, playoff games and playoff assists. His number 7 was retired by the Dallas Stars in 1998. As well, he was inducted into the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame in the year 2000.
But few would argue that Neal was not the best. In fact, in a state that has produced more hockey superstars than virtually every other state in the country, most consider Neal to be the best player the state has ever produced.
He knew that his incredible skill package was undeniably impressive. He called Broten the greatest athlete he ever coached at the University.
Broten would enjoy 11 more productive seasons in Minnesota, including a career high 76 assists and 105 points in 1985-86. By scoring 100 points, he became the first American born player to score 100 points in National Hockey League history. But never managed to take his game to the next level of superstar point scorer like the Gretzkys, Lemieuxs, Hawerchucks and Yzermans of his day. Other than that unexpected run to the Stanley Cup finals in 1981, the North Stars never really accomplished much during Broten's long tenure either. As such the understated Broten was forever in the shadows of other stars, except in Minny where the whole state revered him.
By this time Broten was no longer the steady point producer that he was best known for. He was a wily veteran who became more a defensive forward/penalty killer. He spent a season and a half in Dallas before being traded to New Jersey for Corey Millen. He spent a little over a season and a half in Jersey, and picked up a Stanley Cup ring in 1995, allowing him to join Ken Morrow as the only 1980 Olympians to win the Stanley Cup. Broten would briefly join the Los Angeles Kings, but 19 games later he was traded back to the Dallas Stars where he finished his career in 1997.
Broten, a super skater and playmaker, played just one game shy of 1100 in the NHL. He scored 289 times while setting up 634 others for a career total of 923 points. He added another 35 goals and 98 points in 135 playoff games. He retired as the franchise's all time record holder (since broken) for career games, points, goals, assists and playoff games. His jersey #7 retired in 1998 by the Stars. Two years later he was inducted into the United States Hockey Hall of Fame.
"He's a winner," Smith said. "Everyone knows what a good athlete Neal Broten is. It's great to see him get a chance to strut his stuff in the playoffs."
"He's been one of our leading players through the playoffs," Coach Bob Gainey said. "The goals don't measure what he's done for our team. Down through the end of the season he was a key player for us and he wasn't scoring many goals."
He's been underrated for awhile but a lot of people are starting to realize what vast skills he has. He had an off year last year, but other than that he's been playing superb. Right now, he's playing as fine a brand of hockey as he can and he's capable of it (reaching over 100) over and over again."
2x Soviet 1st Team All Star (1976, 1982)
2x Top 3 Soviet MVP Voting (3, 3)
2x Best Line in Soviet Union Member (1976, 1980)
7x Top 7 Soviet Point Scoring (1, 3, 4, 6, 6, 7, 7)
293 goals in 572 career Soviet League games(.512 GPG)
Best Forward at 1982 World Championships
2x Leading Goal scorer at WC (1975, 1982)
Led WC in Points, 1975
3x World Championships Gold Medalist
World Championships Silver Medalist, 1976
World Championships Bronze Medalist, 1977
1981 Canada Cup Gold Medalist
1976 Super Series Leading Soviet Scorer
1976 Canada Cup Bronze Medalist
66 goals in 126 career International Games(.524 GPG)
Shalimov completed the line with a free-wheeling high scoring right wing.
“Big Shooters like Boris Mikhailov, Viktor Shalimov and Aleksandr Yakushev and defenceman Yuri Liapkin have been returned to favor under Kulagin for the coast-to-coast North American tour…”
-The Leader Post, November 26th, 1976
The red and white based on a unique line at the height of his career. The center Vladmir Shadrin, also gifted in that attack for defensive duties, and the rangy offensive talent Aleksandr Yakushev evolve together for many years at Spartak and the national team, backed by Yaroslavtsev then Zimin. For two years they have as right winger Viktor Shalimov, who knows how to use space to reveal its qualities as a great goalscorer.
Victor Shalimov (No. 9) made more shots than anyone else at the meet. ... The best showing after Yakushev's was made by novice Victor Shalimov, who had more shots to his credit than anyone else at the meet
- Stanley Cup Champion as Head Coach (1939)
- Stanley Cup Finalist as Head Coach, 3 Times (1927, 1930, 1943)
- Stanley Cup Champion as Team Executive, 2 Times (1929, 1941)
- NHL Coach 1st Team All-Star (1939)
- NHL Coach 2nd Team All-Star, 2 Times (1938, 1943)
- Lester Patrick trophy (1984)
- Top 5 In NHL Coach All-Star Voting, 7 Other Times (3rd-1932, 3rd-1933, 4th-1934, 4th-1934, 4th-1937, 3rd-1940, 5th-1941)
- Top 3 In Team Regular Season Finishes, 9 Times (3rd-1928, 1st-1930, 1st-1931, 1st-1933, 3rd-1937, 1st-1938, 1st-1939, 3rd-1942, 2nd-1943)
- Best Coach Of The 1920's By "Ultimate Hockey"
Oiginally Posted By Wikipedia
Managerial Career 1918–36
- Following his playing career, Ross became a NHL referee. He was hired to coach the Hamilton Tigers for the 1922–23 season, and adopted new methods in training camp that emphasized physical fitness, including work off the ice. However, the Tigers finished with a record of six wins and eighteen losses, last in the NHL for the third successive year, and Art Ross did not return the next season. His next coaching appointment arose from meeting Boston grocery store magnate Charles Adams during the 1924 Stanley Cup Finals. Before the 1924 season, the NHL awarded Adams an expansion team, which he named the Boston Bruins. He hired Ross as general manager, coach and scout. Ross utilized his many hockey connections throughout Canada and the United States to sign players. Even so, the team started poorly. Early in the first season the University of Toronto hockey team was in Boston for matches against local universities. The team's manager, Conn Smythe, who later owned and managed the Toronto Maple Leafs, said that his team could easily defeat the Bruins—Ross's team had won only two of their first fifteen NHL games. This began a feud between Smythe and Ross which lasted until Ross's death; while mostly confined to newspaper reports, they refused to speak to each other at NHL Board of Governor meetings. The Bruins finished their first season with six wins in thirty games, one of the worst records in the history of the league. Several records were set over the course of the season; the three home wins are tied for the second fewest ever, and an eleven game losing streak from December 8, 1924, until February 17, 1925, set a record for longest losing streak, surpassed in 2004 and now second longest in history. With 17 wins in 36 games the following season, the team greatly improved, and finished one point out of a playoff spot.
In 1926 the Western Hockey League, the other top professional hockey league, was in decline. The Patrick brothers, who controlled the league, offered to sell the remaining five teams for $300,000. Ross realized the potential talent available and convinced Adams to pay the money. As a result, the Bruins acquired the rights to several future Hall of Fame players, the most notable being defender Eddie Shore. Ross signed goaltender Cecil "Tiny" Thompson in 1928, who was with a team in Minnesota, despite never watching him play; Ralph "Cooney" Weiland was also brought over from Minnesota. Art Ross acquired Cy Denneny from Ottawa and made him a player-coach while he assumed the role of team manager. On November 20, 1928, the Bruins moved to a new arena when the Boston Garden opened. The team played the Canadiens who won the match 1–0 in front of 16,000 fans. The players signed by Ross helped the Bruins to improve quickly, and they won the Stanley Cup in 1929. Denneny retired after the Cup win and Ross resumed his role as coach, guiding the team to several league records in the 1929–30 season. The team won 38 of 44 games for an .875 winning percentage, the highest in league history; the five losses tied a record for fewest ever, and the four road losses tied a record for second fewest. The Bruins also only finished one game in a tie, a record for fewest ties in a season since the NHL began recording the record in 1926. One of the longest winning streaks was also set during the season. From December 3, 1929, until January 9, 1930, the team won fourteen games in a row, a record that lasted until 1982 and now tied for third longest, as of October 2010. A home winning streak began the same day and lasted for twenty games, until March 18, 1930, which was tied for the longest of its kind in 1976. In 1930–31, the Bruins again lost only one home game, which equalled their previous record.
In a playoff game against the Montreal Canadiens on March 26, 1931, Ross substituted goaltender Tiny Thompson for a sixth skater in the final minute of play. Although the Bruins lost the game 1–0, Ross became the first coach to replace his goaltender with an extra attacker, a tactic which became widespread practice in hockey. Stepping aside as coach in 1934 to focus on managing the team, Ross hired Frank Patrick as coach with a salary of $10,500, which was high for such a role. However rumours spread during the season that Patrick, a Methodist, was drinking heavily and not being as strict with the players as Ross wanted. After the Bruins lost their playoff series with the Toronto Maple Leafs in the 1936 playoffs, the result of a 8–1 score in the second game, a newspaper claimed that Patrick had been drinking the day of the game and had trouble controlling the team. Several days later, Ross relieved Patrick of his duties and once again assumed the role of coach.
The Art Ross Trophy. Ross donated the trophy in 1947 to be awarded to the leading scorer in the NHL regular season. Ross took over an improved team. He had recently signed three players, Milt Schmidt, Bobby Bauer and Woody Dumart, who all grew up together in Kitchener, Ontario, and had them play on the same line, soon nicknamed the Kraut Line in reference to the German heritage of all three. Along with them, Ross had acquired a new goaltender in 1938, Frank Brimsek; after Brimsek earned six shutouts in his first eight games, the Bruins traded away Tiny Thompson to allow Brimsek to play. With these players the Bruins finished first in the league in 1937–38; Ross was named as the second best coach in the league, selected for the end of season All-Star Second Team. The next season the Bruins won 36 of 48 games, and won the Stanley Cup in the playoffs; Ross was named to the First All-Star Team as the best coach in the league for the season and the team only tied two games, which is tied for the second fewest in a season.He hired the recently retired Cooney Weiland to coach the Bruins for the 1939–40 NHL season. The Bruins would win the Cup again in 1941, and tied their record of only four away losses all season. Ross once again took over as coach of the team before the 1941–42 season began, as Weiland became coach of the Hershey Bears of the American Hockey League, and led the team to 25 wins in 48 games, which was enough to earn third place in the league. By this time the Second World War had caused several Bruins players, including the entire Kraut Line and goaltender Brimsek, to enlist in their respective armed forces. The Bruins finished second in the NHL during the 1942–43 season with 24 wins in 50 games and Ross was again named in the Second NHL All-Star Team as second best coach in the league. The Bruins missed the playoffs in 1943–44, the first time in ten years they failed to qualify, but returned to the playoffs the next season, something they did for five straight years.
In 1949, Ross had signed Georges Boucher as coach, but Boucher did not work well with Ross and team president Weston Adams. Looking to hire a new coach in the summer of 1950, Ross phoned Lynn Patrick, the son of Lester, who had just resigned from the New York Rangers after coaching the team to the Stanley Cup Final. Lynn had moved his family back to Victoria, British Columbia, where he grew up as a child, with the intention of coaching the Victoria Cougars, a team in the minor professional Pacific Coast Hockey League. Though reluctant to move back to the eastern United States, Lynn was hired by Ross after he was offered a salary of $12,000. He would coach the team for the next four seasons and become the second general manager of the Bruins when Ross retired at the end of October 1954.
Aside from his career in hockey, Ross was interested in improving the game. Prior to the start of the 1927–28 season, the NHL adopted a new style of goal net created by Ross. With the back molded into a B-shape, it was better designed to catch pucks and the net was used until 1984, when a modified version was adopted. He also improved the design of the puck, which was made of synthetic, rather than natural, rubber. It had bevel edges, which prevented it bouncing too much. Along with New York Rangers coach Frank Boucher, Ross helped to create the red line, which was introduced to help speed up the game by removing the ability for defenders to pass the puck from the defensive to offensive zone; until 2006 it was against the rules of hockey to make a two line pass. More scoring chances resulted as teams could not simply send the puck down the ice. In order to help tell the red line and blue lines apart on television, Ross suggested that the red line be striped.
Regarded throughout his playing career as one of the best defenders in hockey, Ross was named to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1949, selected for his playing career rather than his work as an executive. A ceremony for his induction was held prior to a Bruins game on December 2, 1949, where he was given his Hall of Fame scroll and a silver tray with the emblems of the six NHL teams on it. In 1975 he was inducted into the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame. Along with his two sons he donated the Art Ross Trophy to the NHL in 1947, to be awarded to the leading scorer in the league's regular season. In 1984 he was posthumously awarded the Lester Patrick Trophy for service to hockey in the United States.
Originally Posted By HHOF
After retiring as a player, Ross took a turn as an on-ice official before moving into coaching and management. He landed his first coaching position with the Hamilton Tigers' senior club, where he demonstrated that not all of his ability was left behind on the ice. When Charles F. Adams secured an NHL franchise for the Boston area, he jumped at the chance to offer Art Ross the coach's job.
Between 1924 and 1954, Ross served as either coach or manager of the Boston Bruins. Over this period the club finished at the top of the league standings 10 times and captured the Stanley Cup on three occasions. He was the driving force behind the Bruins' ability to acquire such future stars as Eddie Shore and Milt Schmidt. It was while serving in his administrative capacities that Ross argued successfully for the adoption of synthetic as opposed to natural rubber pucks. He also brought about the replacement of the league's square goal nets with a rounded-back version, complete with superior mesh.
Ross was a multidimensional influence in hockey. As a tribute to him, the NHL introduced the trophy bearing his name in 1947-48 to be awarded annually to the league's top scorer. The B-shaped net he brought into being lasted until the 1980s, while his synthetic bevel-edged puck was still in use in the late 1990s. In 1945 Ross was part of the first group of players elected to the newly founded Hockey Hall of Fame
Originally Posted By NHL Source
As an executive with the Boston Bruins, Art Ross was the architect behind Stanley Cup wins in 1929, 1939 and 1941. Undoubtedly, those victories were the pinnacle of his professional career.
Originally Posted By Joe Pelletier
He also managed the Hamilton Tigers prior to becoming manager-coach of the Boston Bruins of the National Hockey League in 1924. Ross is regarded as the man who established professional hockey in Boston, and was responsible for the acquisition of many of the Bruins' great stars. He coached Boston on three separate occasions and the team won three Stanley Cups under his direction -- 1929-29, 1938-39 and 1940-41
It is highly ironic that Ross went in to management. His battles with the NHA bosses were fierce, so it is unusual for a person like that to switch to the other side of the table.
Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1945, Ross was name as the 1984 Lester Patrick award winner for dedication to hockey in the United States, nearly 20 years after his death.
- Member Of The HHOF (1983)
- Member Of The IIHF HHOF (1997)
- Stanley Cup Champion as Head Coach (1970)
- Summit Series Champion as Head Coach/General Manager (1972)
- Stanley Cup Finalist as General Manager, 5 Times (1974, 1977, 1978, 1988, 1990)
- Lester Patrick Trophy (1999)
- Top 3 In Regular Season Team Finishes, 3 Times (3rd-1968, 2nd-1969, 1st-1970)
- President's Trophy as Team General Manager, 2 Times (1983, 1990)
Originally Posted By Wikipedia
Coaching in the NHL-
In May 1966, Sinden moved to the NHL as the head coach of the Boston Bruins. At 33, he was the youngest coach in the league at the time, coaching the youngest team. In his first season—with a team that included rookie Bobby Orr—the Bruins finished out of the playoffs with the worst record in the league. By his second year, aided by the acquisition of Phil Esposito from the Chicago Black Hawks, the team posted a winning record, and in Sinden's third season, the Bruins finished with 100 points, just behind the Montreal Canadiens for top spot in the NHL. In his fourth season, 1969–70, he coached the Bruins to the their first Stanley Cup in 29 years. Retirement and Summit Series-
Despite his success with the team, Sinden had a rocky relationship with Bruins management during the championship season, which led to the 37 year-old Sinden announcing his retirement just days after winning the Cup. The club placed him on its voluntary retired list, preventing him from taking a job with another team for one year. Sinden accepted a job with Stirling Homex Corp., a home construction company in Rochester, New York. In October 1970, Sports Illustrated published a story by Sinden where he said he left the Bruins because they had refused mid-season to give him a raise for the following year.
Sinden was offered the job as first head coach of the New York Islanders at the beginning of 1972, but turned it down. He also rejected offers from the Toronto Maple Leafs and the St. Louis Blues. In June 1972, after two years away from hockey, he was named head coach and manager of the Canadian team for the eight-game Summit Series. After a slow start, he led the Canadians to a come-from-behind win, capped by Paul Henderson's series-winning goal with 34 seconds remaining in the final game. Esposito, reunited with Sinden, was the leading scorer in the series.
Sinden maintained a tape recorded diary throughout the series, which was turned into a book, Hockey Showdown, published in 1972.
Returns to the Bruins-
Within days after the Summit Series, Sinden signed a five-year deal with the Bruins to become the team's general manager, succeeding Milt Schmidt, who was made executive director. Sinden would spend just over 28 years as general manager of the Bruins, almost surpassing the 30-year tenure (1924–54) of the team's founding manager, Art Ross.He added the title of club president in 1989, and remained as the chief executive of the club until the summer of 2006, when he retired to a consulting role.
As GM, Sinden presided over the team's long years of consistent success, setting the North American major professional record for most consecutive seasons in the playoffs with 30, which including making the finals five times (1974, 1977, 1978, 1988, 1990) and two regular season first place finishes (1983, 1990).
Recently, Sinden was the subject of controversies ranging from video replays to salary arbitration, and was under frequent fire from Bruins' fans. In the 1996–97 season, the NHL fined him $5,000 USD for verbal abuse towards a video replay official after a goal was disallowed in the second period during a game between the Bruins and the Ottawa Senators. Sinden also refused a salary arbitration award, letting Dmitri Khristich, a 29-goal scorer, leave the team with no compensation. Sinden had been highly critical of Khristich's performance in the playoffs and was angered when an arbitrator awarded him a salary of $2.8 million.
Currently, Sinden is the Senior Advisor to the Owner for the Bruins, as well as a member of the selection committee for the Hockey Hall of Fame. He is also a "Hockey GM & Scouting" instructor for the online sports career training school, Sports Management Worldwide, in Portland, OR. In 2011 Harry Sinden got his name on the Stanley Cup for a 2nd time. It was 41 years between Stanley Cup wins for Harry Sinden.
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Norris Voting: T6 ('75)
All-Star Team voting: 10th ('75), T19th ('76), token votes two other years ('77 and '78)
x2 All-Star Game appearances ('75 and '76)
TOI Ranks: Clear #1 with 4.5 more minutes TOI than #2 Schoenfeld ('75), clear #1 with 2.5 more minutes than #2 Schoenfeld ('78), #1 with half minute more than undrafted #2 ('76),
#1/2 with about 20 more seconds TOI than Schoenfeld ('79), #2 about 20 seconds behind Murphy ('81), #2 with a minute behind #1 Schoenfeld ('77),
#3 behind undrafted and Murphy ('82), #4 behind Schoenfeld, undrafted, and Hajt ('80), #4 behind undrafted, Murphy, and undrafted ('83)
Spare/forward during his time in Chicago, #6/7 guy during his final years in Buffalo
Originally Posted by LoH
Jerry "King Kong" Korab was an imposing mix of brute force and offensive smarts during his career as an NHL defenceman with four different teams. His 6'3" 220 lb. frame allowed him to stand up to any of the league's rough players while his heavy shot was a handful from the point and useful when clearing his own zone.
The native of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario played two years with the Chicago-sponsored St. Catharines Black Hawks of the OHA. He played two seasons of minor pro in the IHL and WHL before suited up for the Hawks as a rookie in 1970-71. Chicago had plenty of offense from the blueline so Korab was asked to keep the front of his own net clear. He did a fairly decent job and helped the team reach the Stanley Cup final in 1971. He continued to play the same role for the next two seasons but did jump up to score 12 goals in 1972-73 and help the team reach its second final in three years.
In May 1973, Korab and backup netminder Gary Smith were sent to the Vancouver Canucks for Dale Tallon. His stay on the West Coast lasted only 31 games before he was shipped to the Buffalo Sabres for John Gould and Tracy Pratt. This proved to be the most beneficial move of Korab's career as he blossomed into an effective defenceman on one of the best young teams in the league.
Korab played physically on defence while getting a chance to rush with the puck and shoot more from the point. He hit double figures in goals four times and helped the Sabres reach their first Stanley Cup final in 1975. He was picked to play in the 1975 and 1976 NHL All-Star Games and was a popular figure at the Memorial Auditorium.
The burly defender's time in Buffalo ended when he was traded to the Los Angeles Kings for a first round draft choice that was used to claim offensive defenceman Phil Housley. Korab spent over three years with the offensive-minded Kings and helped the team to a dramatic playoff upset of the powerful Edmonton Oilers in 1982. In 1983 he retired but two months into the season he was offered a chance to make a comeback in Buffalo.
Korab added experience to the Buffalo defence in the last 48 games of the season and three playoff matches before he was released. The next year an offer came from the Minnesota North Stars but Buffalo coach Scotty Bowman wouldn't let him pass through waivers and claimed him for 25 games. Korab finally retired at the end of that season with 455 career points and worked a year in the Sabres' public relations department.
Originally Posted by Joe Pelletier
Korab was nicknamed King Kong because of his intimidating size and his appearance. At 6'3 and 220lbs he was a big as the giant gorilla. Plus he sported a messy mop of hair and big bushy moustache.
He also played a bit like King Kong on skates- his intimidating presence kept the opponents honest while allowing his teammates - particularly the French Connection line of Gilbert Perreault, Rick Martin and Rene Robert - to thrive. Opponents knew that they could not take liberties on the Sabres star players because Korab would answer the bell every time.
Such aggressive play made him a fan favorite. One fan even dressed regularly in a gorilla suit in tribute to the rugged blueliner.
But Korab was much more than just an intimidating enforcer. Korab was a very skilled rearguard, who was also shuffled to the left wing early in his career. In his first season in Buffalo he broke all club scoring records for defensemen when he scored 12 goals, 44 assists and 56 points. He later bettered his goal scoring record to 14 goals (all records have now been surpassed). Over much of his career in Buffalo he played the point on one of the power play units in the 1970s.
In Buffalo the inconsistent Korab developed into a solid and more consistent rearguard. Under Punch Imlach, Korab gained much confidence in his game, and became an all star by 1975. Korab teamed with Jim Schoenfeld to form one of the biggest and most physical defensive pairings in NHL history. In addition to settling down defensively he became a decent offensive threat. Six times he reached double digits in goals, and was a constant 45-50 point threat in his stay in Buffalo.
The Sabres traded the aging veteran to Los Angeles in exchange for a 1st round pick in the 1982 entry draft (The Sabres used the draft pick to select the outstanding Phil Housley), on March 10, 1980. Korab had one great year left in him when he scored 9 goals and a career high 52 points in his first full season in Los Angeles, but he quickly settled into more of a defensive role in the twilight of his career.
Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - May 1, 1975
Number 4 has emblazoned the back of many a great hockey player through the years. People like Jean Beliveau, Red Kelly and Bobby Orr wore it while creating havoc for the opponents. Number 4 for the Buffalo Sabres, Jerry Korab, will never make it as one of hockey's greats. But that isn't stopping him from creating havoc for the Canadiens.
He's blocking shots, throwing his weight around and generally blunting the Canadiens' attack. On the other hand, he started to make a few mistakes towards the end of Tuesday's game - the one the Sabres won to give them a 2-0 lead in the best-of-seven Stanley Cup semi-final. "I think we can get to him," Canadiens coach Scotty Bowman said yesterday. "He's stabbed a few guys before. There's a few old wounds around that some of our guys haven't forgotten. Jerry Korab could be in for a tough night. He's very capable of coughing up the puck or taking a few penalties."
Korab, as amicable off the ice as he is miserable on it says he doesn't care how the Canadiens feel about him. "They''re always talking to me," he said, "but I don't care how much they talk. they can say what they want, I don't understand that language anyway."
Originally Posted by The Milwaukee Journal - Feb 11, 1977
You don't have to be a movie critic or an animal lover to realize the folly of tampering with King Kong, whether it be the movie monster or the hockey player. Boston Bruins' rookie John Wesink learned this lesson Thursday night when he riled Jerry Korab-nicknamed "King Kong" even before the reissue of the movie - by hitting the Buffalo Sabres' defenseman with a high stick in the opening minute of their National Hockey League Game. The angry Korab, who is 6 feet 4 inches, admonished the rookie for his impertinence and then vented his anger by scoring two goals to lift the Sabres over the Bruins in Buffalo, 4-3.
"I got a little upset there right off the bat," said Korab. "He made a big mistake. He never should have hit me. He got me going, tell him thanks. I don't care how big you are, when a guy puts a stick in your face it's time to retaliate. Even when you're 6'4", a stick in the face still hurts." After being hit, Korab retaliated and drew a two minute interference penalty plus an additional two minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct. The Sabres killed off the double minor, and 15 seconds after Korab returned to the ice, he gave Buffalo a 1-0 lead.
Korab scored again in the second period, his 10th goal of the season...
Originally Posted by The Evening Independent - Nov 25, 1974
Buffalo defenseman Jerry Korab was just skating around, minding his own business, knocking people down as usual, when it started. "I don't know who I checked," said Korab after the Sabres' penalty-filled 6-4 victory over Montreal last night. "I turned around and skated away and two guys jumped me. It happened so quickly I don't know what happened."
What happened, more or less, was that midway through the third period Korab dumped Montreal's Mario Tremblay-"It was a clean check," insisted Korab-then Montreal's Yvon Lambert jumped Korab and was pulled off by a Buffalo player. The Canadiens' Doug Risebrough promptly attacked Korab and was also pulled off whereupon Tremblay went after Korab...There were 90 (PIM) of them from that particular brawl and, for the night, a total of 154.
Originally Posted by The Leader-Post - Nov 27, 1972
It's been some time since Jerry Korab and Keith Magnuson combined to dispense their own brand of justice for the Chicago Stadium fans. Sunday night changed all that, however, and it was doubly effective in that the Black Hawks' victims were Montreal Canadiens. The two Chicago musclemen used a match-up between teammate Phil Russell and Montreal's Marc Tardif to get into the swing of things. When the chips settled, Korab had a double minor, Magnuson a fighting major and Montreal defenceman Guy Lapointe a fighting major along with an earlier minor.
Originally Posted by Hockey Historysis - Iain Fyffe
Of all the great Winged Wheelers, Cameron was the most celebrated player. He ability on offence, on defence and as a team leader were often noted in the game reports of the time:
McQuisten got it and tried to carry it past Cameron, who was a strong tower in himself, and sent it back again. (Montreal Gazette, 14 Jan 1888)
Kinghorn ran it well up, but Cameron came to the rescue and relieved the pressure. Kinghorn again got it, but his career was short as Cameron stopped him. (Montreal Gazette, 4 Feb 1888)
Cameron was feeding his forwards grandly. (Montreal Gazette, 4 Feb 1888)
Play had hardly commenced when the two cover point men [Cameron and the Vics' Jack Campbell] began the magnificent work that characterized their play all through the match. (Montreal Gazette, 28 Feb 1888)
Allan Cameron, of the M.A.A.A. team, had his eye closed in the fourth game, but pluckily went on for the fifth. (Montreal Herald, 4 Feb 1889)
Cameron, by a pretty shot, added another point for the M.A.A.A. team. (Montreal Herald, 18 Jan 1890)
The spectators were very often raised to a high pitch of enthusiasm
through the dashing play of Campbell, who certainly played a magnificent game. Cameron, somehow or other, managed to get in his road and interrupt him when he appeared to be dangerous. (Montreal Herald, 20 Feb 1890)
Paton had many stops to make, nevertheless, but they were of the free and easy order and he cleverly drove the puck out of his territory. Stewart and Cameron swooped around after the puck in admirable style. (Montreal Gazette, 8 Mar 1892)
Cameron played a beautiful game and owing in great part to the lack of combination among his opponents, scarcely one of them ever got past him. If they did they were almost sure to be stopped by Paton. (Montreal Gazette, 30 Jan 1893)
At last the puck was raised up the rink by Watson, but Stewart and Cameron were hard men to pass. (Montreal Gazette, 11 Feb 1893)
... By its very nature, the cover-point position lent itself to well-rounded players, with both offensive and defensive ability. And since he was generally in position to see more of the ice that the other skaters, the role of team captain also suited the position well. Judging by the game reports, Allan Cameron was very effective with the puck, but also without, and had a talent for "challenging" opposing puck carriers and removing the puck from their possession. Rather than simply obstructing the opponents' course, as Baird suggests above, it seems Cameron preferred to go after them aggressively, and was very effective at doing so.
...he toiled with the Crystals until 1887, when MAAA snapped him up. The mustachioed "toque blue tromper" or "the rusher in the blue toque" - would flower into a top-flight cover-point, captaining the famous winged wheelers until his retirement in 1895...Cameron was the very engine of the winged wheel attack. He was quite simply the most complete player of the 1880's. His genius for the two-way game was soon the talk of the circuit. According to newsmen, "nothing escaped Cameron's eyes." his defensive abilities were every bit as sharp as *******'s and possibly the finest in the AHAC.
Originally Posted by seventieslord
He was the best defenseman of the five-year period where organized hockey existed before the Stanley Cup. Ultimate Hockey credits him with a retro Norris for 1887, 1889, 1890, and 1891, and a retro hart in 1891. Cameron captained the MAAA team for 9 seasons, winning 7 league titles and the two inagural Stanley Cups in 1893 and 1894. He played a total of 46 games, scoring 3 goals and providing the solid two-way game and leadership required for victory. Under his watch, MAAA went 44-14 over those 9 years.
Trying to put the era in context
Originally Posted by Hockey Historysis - Iain Fyffe
So both Cameron and Stewart went after the enemy puck-carriers (something points especially were not really expected to do). They did not play passively, allowing the opponents time to enter the zone and set up a combination play. I believe this is one of the main reasons the Winged Wheelers were so good at preventing goals: Cameron and Stewart were able to play aggressively, stripping the puck from opponents before they could make a play. Not everyone could do this, of course; you'd need the instincts and ability to pull it off.
This style of play, done effectively, was especially beneficial in the era that Stewart and Cameron played in. Why? Because there was no forward passing. When making an offensive rush, you had to stay behind the puck carrier to be eligible to receive a pass. So rushes were akin to what you see in rugby, with a line of forwards skating ahead. This is why the point played behind the cover-point rather than side-by-side like modern blueliners do; opponents came in using individual rushes, because they were not allowed to pass the puck ahead.
I believe this is also what allowed Cameron and Stewart to be so effective by being aggressive. If you challenged an enemy puck carrier, you were not in as much danger of getting into a bad position as you would be in the modern game, because if the opponent passed the puck before you get to him, he could at best do it laterally, and it will often be behind him. As such, if you could read the play quickly enough (which Cameron and Stewart surely could), when the opponent passed the puck you were be able to adjust your trajectory to intercept that player instead, because he simply could not be behind you.
As such, I think Cameron and especially Stewart were simply ahead of their time, realizing the advantage on defence that playing aggressively could bring. While some other defences waiting for puck carriers to come to them, the Winged Wheelers focused on stopping the opponents advances as soon as they could. And this is one reason they were so very good at keeping the puck out of the net.
x2 Top 10 Assists (8th in '80 and '82)
Hart voting: 1 vote in '80
AST voting: 1 vote in '80
T15th Selke with 2 votes in '88
Originally Posted by Sports Illustrated "The Rat That Roared, Scored, and Prospered" - Nov 25, 1985
"It's the intensity that makes Kenny unique," says Behn Wilson, a Chicago Black Hawks defenseman who played against Linseman in junior hockey and with him in Philadelphia. "It's that intensity that makes him a great hockey player, it's that intensity that makes him a great businessman, and it's that intensity that makes him an interesting person."
Linseman was ready for the WHA, though, quickly establishing himself as a swift skater and deft playmaker with 38 goals and 38 assists for Birmingham. But it was his talent for provocation that earned him an indelible reputation. With tough-guy teammates like Dave (Killer) Hanson, Gilles (Bad News) Bilodeau and Steve Durbano around to clean up his messes, Linseman tormented and taunted the opposition with a barrage of cheap shots and brash talk. "For me, it was a way of surviving. I had to play that way," says Linseman. "I was only 155 to 160 pounds back then [he is now listed at 175]. Those were the Flyers' Broad Street Bully days, and everybody was looking for the big, tough players. I thought I had to play that way to be at least noticed."
The Flyers did notice, and were so impressed that they drafted him and paid $500,000 to the Bulls for his rights. In 1979-80 he was a key figure in the team's NHL-record 35-game unbeaten streak, and he established himself as a money performer in the playoffs with 22 points in 17 games. "Guys on other teams used to ask me, 'What's it like playing with that little jerk Linseman?' " says Paul Holmgren, who was right wing on Linseman's line and now is a Flyers assistant coach. "I said, 'Great. He got me 30 goals.' When you play with him, you love him." But as Linseman's penalty minutes piled up—he had 275 in 1981-82—the Flyers brass tired of his chippy excesses. In the summer of 1982 Linseman was part of a three-team deal that sent him to Edmonton and brought much-needed defenseman Mark Howe from Hartford to the Flyers.
At the time, Linseman was 24, well-off and ready for anything. There were mistakes: a number of speeding tickets, some arguments with fans and reporters, and the time he posed with a rat for a magazine—or worse, his having a rat tattooed on his right calf even though he dislikes the nickname. "I'm trying, and I think I'm getting better all the time," Linseman says now, referring to his office difficulties. "But I'm still probably worse than 95 percent of the population."
But Linseman expresses no remorse over such incidents as the October 1984 "Rat Bites Man" episode with former Oiler teammate Lee Fogolin. During a game in Edmonton, Linseman was drilled in the crease in front of Oilers goalie Andy Moog. A fight broke out and Linseman bit Fogolin so severely on the cheek that the Edmonton player required a tetanus shot. "If the league is going to let us fight, I don't see where there are any rules about how we should fight," Linseman says. In 1982, Linseman was suspended for four games for gouging former Toronto Maple Leaf center Russ Adam. "If you look at the truly great players in this game—Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, Bob Clarke, they all had a mean streak in them," says Holmgren. That doesn't mean Linseman has been scratched from any hit lists, though.
Linseman's playing style has evolved as NHL hockey has evolved—into the type of freewheeling skating game practiced by the Oilers. In 1982-83 he scored a career-high 33 goals and helped line-mates Glenn Anderson and Mark Messier to 100-point-plus seasons. The following season he scored the Stanley Cup winning goal for the Oilers, and his penalty minutes have been dropping—to 119 and 126 the last two seasons. "Kenny really benefited from his time in Edmonton," says Boston defenseman Mike O'Connell. "Playing with that caliber of talent, I think he proved to himself just how good he is."
Yet, the summer after he had sealed the Oilers' first Cup win, Linseman was dealt to the Bruins for forward Mike Krushelnyski. There were good reasons for the deal. One, Linseman was in the last year of his contract, and the Oilers figured he would pressure them for a raise—as usual, payable in American dollars, then worth almost one-third more than Canadian dollars. Two, Messier had been moved to center, leaving Linseman as a third- or fourth-line center. Three, the Bruins badly needed a speedy game-breaker to center a second line and take some of the scoring pressure off Barry Pederson and Rick Middleton.
Ken Linseman was a real effective hockey player, but he was not much of a finisher. I mean that two ways. Though a good offensive presence, he was not a goal scorer. And secondly, he was real **** disturber with a reputation for causing a lot of trouble that he rarely stuck around to see the end.
Yes, Linseman's reputation will always be that of a dirty hockey player. He was a physical player in all zones of the ice, but at 5'11" and 175lbs he was anything but a heavy hitter. He did hit hard though, often taking a couple more strides than he should have, and often using his arms and elbows to hit high. In a pre-obstruction crackdown NHL he was well versed in other uses for the hockey stick. He would slash, cross check, and spear an opponent, and he was a clutch and grab specialist.
Making it even worse was Linseman's mouth. He was so yappy on the ice that he drove many an opponent crazy listening to him...Linseman was down right dirty at times... It's actually too bad that Linseman chose to play this way, because he was actually quite a decent hockey player. He was an excellent defensive player and face-off expert, and as such he was given important responsibilities late in games. He would doggedly pursuing the puck to no end, but he had good anticipation and vision to make the job much easier. Though he lacked great straight ahead speed, Linseman was a wonderful skater. He had tremendous lateral movement. He was as shifty a player as I've ever seen, and with a single step he could change direction and never be out of the play. He skated with very bent over, which led to his nickname "The Rat," not his antagonistic style.
Offensively he was a nice presence. He was a good stickhandler and a solid playmaking pivot. Blessed with excellent vision, he could feed pucks to teammates at the same time holes opened up.
A solid offensive player, he set a record by scoring 6 goals in a game in 1897, but he's good defensively, and a true class act. An amazing 2-way player from hockey's early years, who is left very underrated by time.
- Born In 1877
- Stanley Cup Champion, 2 Times (1902, 1903)
- Art Ross Trophy (1897)*
- Rocket Richard Trophy (1897)*
- Frank J. Selke Trophy, 2 Times (1898, 1899)*
Originally Posted By Ultimate Hockey
Clarence McKerrow got his break with the MAAA in 1895 when he was called upon to replace an injured Billy Barlow in a Stanley Cup match against Queen's University. The young Center/Rover proved himself rather quickly, scoring a goal within minutes of being brought in.
McKerrow was a true gentleman, a honey of a skater, a natural goal scorer, and a diligent checker. Indeed, he was as determined on the lacrosse pitch as he was on the ice: He would captain the Canadian national lacrosse team in the 1908 Summer Olympics. Newsy Lalonde, often called the greatest lacrosse player of all-time, said McKerrow gave him the most trouble on the lacrosse field.
McKerrow is said to have had a profoundest influence on the greatest hockey mind of the twentieth century, Lester Patrick. As a youngster, Patrick would go and watch the MAAA players practice. On one occasion, he mustered up the sass to ask the great Clare McKerrow if he could carry his sticks and equipment bag. McKerrow took an almost immediate shine to the tall youth and started teaching him about hockey and about how to carry himself as a gentleman. McKerrow was a lasting influence in Patrick's long and eventful life.”. Later in his life, Lester Patrick was quoted as saying that "It was Mr. McKerrow who taught me to carry myself with a certain air and act with class".
IN A WORD.........STYLISH
“Most Underrated Player” of 1887-1899
Clare McKerrow put in five years with the MAAA, scoring 46 goals in 26 total games
Originally Posted By Iain Fyffe
Clare McKerrow - a Brief but Dominant Career
We've been spending a good deal of time in the 20th century lately, albeit to early 20th century. But it's time again for something from the 19th, to centre ourselves.
Clare McKerrow played rover for the Montreal AAA from 1896 to 1899, only four seasons. But he accomplished more in that short time than most players do in an entire career. In his four years, he finished second, first (tied), second and first in goals per game in Canada's highest league. Take a look at his Point Allocation records:
He was the best player in the country in 1899 with a 6.74 TPAK, which comes close to hitting the Gretzky-Orr Threshold. He was more than simply a scorer, though he was noted as being an exceptional natural goal-scorer. McKerrow was also noted as a gifted skater and diligent checker. He played his last senior hockey at age 21. It's incredible to imagine what he might have done had he played into his prime athletic years, a two-way force that could have kept the AAA on top of the league for a number of years. As it is he won a Stanley Cup in 1895 (his first appearance in senior hockey was in a Cup game), and another as a coach on the AAA in 1902.
Clare McKerrow is also credited as a mentor to a young Lester Patrick, teaching him about the game, and how to conduct himself as a gentleman. As Patrick proved throughout his career as a player and an executive, he was an unparalleled expert on both topics, so it seems McKerrow was a creditable teacher as well.
It should be noted that the picture above is actually from a lacrosse card, from over a decade after McKerrow played his last senior hockey. The image can also double for a picture of Andrew McKerrow, who played point for the Montreal AAA in 1896 (1.20 TPAK), and who happened to be Clare's twin brother, the first confirmed incidence of twin brothers playing on the same senior-level squad.
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- 5'11, 205 Ibs, Shoots:Left, Born: 5/25/1929 In Verdun, Quebec
- Stanley Cup Champion, 5 Times (1953, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1961)
- NHL All-Star Game, 5 Times (1953, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1961)
- Norris Trophy Voting, 2 Times (9th-1956, 8th-1958)
Originally Posted Legends Of Hockey
As a Quebec-born lad with a dashing francophone name, Dollard St. Laurent was a natural to enter the Montreal Canadiens' chain. The question would be, how high could he climb?
He started out with the Jr. Canadiens of the QJHL where he skated for two seasons from 1947 to 1949. There he demonstrated an offensive touch and an ability to play a tough game of defense at the other end of the ice.
In 1949-50, St. Laurent started a three-year relationship with the Montreal Royals of the QSHL. He spent most of his time sharpening the finer points of his game while putting them to the occasional test by joining the Habs for a couple of stints.
Around 1952-53, however, the Canadiens began to introduce significant new blood in the form of Jacques Plante and Dickie Moore among others. One of the others included St. Laurent who settled onto the Habs' blueline corps as a stay-at-home regular. Over the six seasons that followed, he doled out tough bodychecks and adhered to defensive zone fundamentals in textbook fashion. His efforts contributed to three-straight Stanley Cup victories between 1956 and 1958.
After the third championship, St. Laurent was sold to the Chicago Blackhawks who were gradually assembling a lineup bent on bringing Lord Stanley to town after a lengthy absence. In 1960-61, the troops pulled together and finally ended the championship drought by ousting the Red Wings in the finals.
St. Laurent continued to clear creases for the Hawks until the end of the 1961-62 campaign. The following year, he was dispatched to the Quebec Aces of the AHL. But in spite of his demotion, he felt that he could still perform at the NHL level. His friend, defenseman Doug Harvey, lobbied to have him transferred to the Rangers, but a deal couldn't be worked out. In the meantime, St. Laurent took a hard fall to the ice in Quebec, breaking his leg and ending his aspirations to make it back to the top. At the end of the season, he announced his retirement.
Originally Posted By NHL Vault An offensive threat in his amateur days, the 5-foot-11, 175-pound rearguard concentrated on taking care of the D zone once he graduated to the NHL, but he still managed to contribute at least a dozen points a season to the Canadiens cause. The hard-hitting blue-liner occasionally led the rush himself and was a more than able playmaker on those occasions that he did venture beyond center ice.
Other Stanley Cup titles followed in 1956, 1957, and 1958, with the popular and outgoing St. Laurent enjoying the most productive campaign of his career in 1957-58, a 23-point effort in his final season with the Canadiens.
Sold to a rebuilding Chicago club before the 1958-59 season got underway, St. Laurent became a steadying veteran presence on the Blackhawks team, capturing the Stanley Cup again in the spring of 1961.
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- 6'3, 215 Ibs, Shoots:Left, Born: 4/10/85 in Edmonton, Alberta
- IIHF World Championships, Gold Medal (2007)
- NHL 1st Team All-Star (2008)
- NHL All-Rookie Team (2006)
- Calder Trophy Voting (3rd-2006) *Finished behind Ovechkin and Crosby
- Hart Trophy Voting (12th-2008)
- Top 12 In Norris Trophy Voting, 4 Times (8th-2006, 6th-2007, 2nd-2008, 12th-2009)
- Top 12 In All-Star Voting, 2 Times (6th-2007, 12th-2009)
- NHL All-Star Games, 3 Times (2007, 2008, 2012)
- Skills Competition, Elimination Shootout Champion (2008)
Originally Posted By Wikipedia
In junior hockey, Phaneuf was known not only for his physical presence, but also his calm demeanour and offensive ability. He was compared to Hockey Hall of Famer Scott Stevens by his former coach, Brent Sutter. Scouts praised his defensive ability, and the poise he showed at both ends of the ice. Praised for his leadership abilities, Phaneuf was named the captain of team WHL at the 2004 ATD Canada-Russia Challenge, and was counted upon to take a leadership role with the Canadian junior team at the 2004 and 2005 World Junior Championships.
His physical play has earned the most headlines in the NHL. Entering his sophomore season, Phaneuf's potential impact on a game was compared favourably to that of Russian star Alexander Ovechkin, and a poll released by ESPN in 2008 revealed that 43% of players asked argued Phaneuf was the hardest hitter in hockey, at the age of 22. He was named an alternate captain by the Flames at the start of the 2008–09 season, though Brent Sutter chose to alternate amongst a group of veterans, including Phaneuf, in 2009–10.
While he earned a James Norris Memorial Trophy nomination for his defensive play in 2008, he struggled enough during the 2008–09 season that some observers began to question his defensive commitment. Phaneuf's teammates were quick to defend his play and noted that he was among the league leaders in average time on ice per game.
- 6'3, 220 Ibs, Shoots:Left, Born: 3/9/78 In Calgary, Alberta
- Stanley Cup Finalist (2007)
- IIHF World Championships Silver Medal, 2 Times (2005, 2009)
- Top 7 In Plus/Minus Rating (7th-2007)
- Norris Trophy Voting, 2 Times (17th-2007, 18th-2010)
- All-Star Voting, 2 Times (17th-2007, 19th-2007)
Originally Posted By The Hockey News ASSETS: Has great hockey sense, plus good mobility, a heavy point shot and a long reach to defend attacking forwards. Is efficient when playing the man.
FLAWS: His physical intensity isn't always where it needs to be to keep opposing forwards honest. Is not a high-end offensive producer from the back end.
CAREER POTENTIAL: Savvy veteran shutdown defenseman.
Originally Posted By Wikipedia
Phillips made his NHL debut in the 1997-98 season, when he appeared in 72 games with the Ottawa Senators, scoring five goals and 16 points, helping the club finish above .500 for the first time in team history. In 11 playoff games, Phillips had two assists, as Ottawa upset the New Jersey Devils in the first round, before falling to the Washington Capitals in the second round of the 1998 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Phillips missed 48 games in the 1998-99, as he scored three goals and six points in 34 games with the Senators, before going pointless in three playoff games.
He saw his point total increase during the 1999-2000 season, as Phillips had five goals and 19 points in 65 games. In six playoff games, Phillips had an assist.
Phillips had another solid season with the club in 2000-01, appearing in 73 games, scoring two goals and 14 points, however, he suffered a late-season injury, in which he appeared in only one playoff game with the Senators. In that game, he scored his first ever playoff goal against Curtis Joseph of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
He remained a big part of the Senators blueline in 2001-02, as Phillips scored six goals and 22 points in 63 games. In 12 playoff games, Phillips did not register a point.
In 2002-03, Phillips helped the Senators win the Presidents' Trophy, which is awarded to the team with the best regular season record in the NHL. In 78 games, Phillips had three goals and 19 points. In the post-season, Phillips had a memorable goal for the Senators, as in game six of the Eastern Conference finals against the New Jersey Devils, Phillips scored the overtime winner, as Ottawa fought off elimination. The Senators lost the seventh game, but Phillips had a very successful playoff run, scoring two goals and six points in 18 games.
Phillips appeared in all 82 games for the first time of his career in 2003-04, as he scored seven goals and 23 points for the Senators. In the playoffs, Phillips once again had some overtime magic, as he scored the winning goal in the fourth game of the Senators first round series against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Toronto ended up winning the series in seven games, and that goal was Phillips only point of the series.
During the 2004-05 NHL lockout, Phillips signed with Brynäs IF of the SEL, where he had five goals and eight points in 27 games. In nine playoff games, Phillips had a goal and three points.
In 2005-06, he returned to the Senators, where Phillips had a goal and 19 points in 68 games. In nine playoff games, Phillips had two goals.
Phillips had his best offensive season of his career in 2006-07, as he had eight goals and 26 points as he played in all 82 games. Phillips had a +36 rating, which ranked him among the top of the NHL leaderboard. Prior to the season, the Senators named Phillips as an alternate captain, and on December 26, 2006, Phillips played in his 500th career game. In the playoffs, Phillips played over 23 minutes a game, shutting down the top offensive players of the Senators opponents, as he helped the team reach the 2007 Stanley Cup Finals, where the Senators lost in five games to the Anaheim Ducks. In 20 playoff games, Phillips had no points.
In 2007-08, Phillips had five goals and 18 points in 81 games, however, the Senators playoff run was short, as they were swept in the first round against the Pittsburgh Penguins, as Phillips was held pointless in four games.
The 2008-09 season saw the Senators struggle, as the team failed to make the playoffs for the first time since 1996. Phillips had another solid season, scoring six goals and 22 points in 82 games, however, he had a -14 rating, making it the first time since the 1998-99 season that Phillips was a minus player.
In 2009-10, the Senators returned to the playoffs, and Phillips played a key role, as he tied his career high of eight goals and had 24 points, the second highest point total of his career, and he played in all 82 games for the second season in a row. In six playoff games, Phillips had no points.
Phillips had a poor 2010-11 season, as he scored only a goal and nine points, his lowest point total since 1998-99, and had a -35 rating, as Ottawa struggled and failed to qualify for the playoffs for the second time in three seasons.
Phillips played for Team Canada at the 1996 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships held in Boston, Massachusetts, where he was held pointless in six games, as Canada won the gold medal. He returned to the tournament in 1997, held in Geneva, Switzerland, where Phillips had an assist in seven games, helping Canada win the gold medal once again. He was named to the 1997 tournament all-star team.
Phillips played for the Canadians at the 2000 IIHF World Championship held in St. Petersburg, Russia, where he had no points in nine games, as Canada finished in fourth place. He returned for the Canadian team at the 2005 IIHF World Championship held in Vienna and Innsbruck, Austria, where the Canadians finished with a silver medal. In nine games, Phillips had an assist. Phillips represented Canada again at the 2009 IIHF World Championship held in Bern and Kloten, Switzerland, recording three assists in nine games as Canada won the silver medal
One of the dominant goaltenders in the NHA and early NHL, Vézina led the Canadiens to five Stanley Cup Finals appearances, where they won the title twice. Seven times in his career, Vézina had the lowest goals-against average in the league he played, and he had the second-best average another five times. From when he joined the Canadiens in 1910, until being forced to retire in 1925, Vézina never missed a game nor allowed a substitute, playing in 328 consecutive regular season games and an additional 39 playoff games. Though he played the bulk of his career in an era when goaltenders could not leave their feet to make a save (the rule was changed in 1918), Vézina is regarded as one of the greatest goaltenders in hockey history; the Montreal Standard referred to him as the "greatest goaltender of the last two decades" in their obituary.
Well liked in Montreal, Vézina was often seen as the best player on the ice for the Canadiens, and was respected by his teammates, who considered him the spiritual leader of the team.
Vezina was the first goalie in NHL history to post a GAA under 2.00. He did this in 1923-24.
1914 – lost to Hap Holmes
1917 – beat Clint Benedict
1918 – lost to Hap Holmes
1919 – beat Clint Benedict
1923 – lost to Clint Benedict
1924 – beat Clint Benedict
1925 – beat undrafted goalie
Nayld Psycho's bio shows that a variety of sources considered Vezina the best goalie in the world while he still played:
This isn't a traditional biography. There is simply one misconception I want cleared up. That Vezina benefited from "Kurt Cobain syndrome" where in, because of his death, he is viewed as better than he actually was. So I have collected a series of quotes, everyone before his death, and everyone from English publications. (French publications would potentially bias towards him.) This should get rid of any doubt of how he was perceived while he played.
Originally Posted by The Morning Leader - Mar 8, 1919
Georges Vezina, goalkeeper of the Montreal Canadiens, who is conceded to be the best net guardian in the game.
Originally Posted by The Border Cities Star - Nov 25, 1921
Another development at Ottawa was the signing of Clint Benedict to occupy the nets for the Ottawa team during the forthcoming season Clint is generally regarded as the second best to George Vezina of the Flying Frenchmen.
Originally Posted by The Montreal Daily Mail - Mar 17, 1916
George Vezina, the brilliant goal-keeper of the Canadiens, often said to be as good as two men, jumped into prominence when he joined the Habitants in 1911. Born in Chicoutimi twenty-eight years ago, Vezina started playing goals when a youngster. Manager George Kennedy witnessed a game in which he was playing in 1910, and immediately signed him up. Ever since he has played in front of the nets for the Flying Frenchmen, and today is one of the highest payed goal-tenders in the business.
Originally Posted by The Toronto World - Apr 5, 1916
Vezina, George: Goalkeeper, 28 years old, and from Chicoutimi. Joined the Canadiens in 1910 and made good on the jump. The most consistent goalkeeper in the N.H.A. and as clean a player as the game knows. His success is largely consequent upon the fact that he attends stricktly to business all the time, and never tries to pull any funny stuff.
Originally Posted by The Calgary Daily Herald - Oct 30, 1914
There ???(I assume "is a") strong possibility that the National Hockey assiciation will this year be without the services of its most brilliant goalkeeper, Vezina of the Canadiens.
This paper was poorly scanned, but it was about a proposed deal that when Lalonde was playing out West, Vezina would be traded straight up for him to bring Lalonde back to Montreal.
Originally Posted by The Morning Leader - Feb 26, 1919
...the goaltenders, who have demonstrated that they can stop the hard shots a la George Vezina and Hugh Lehman.
From a Regina paper, infers that Lehman is the class of the West and Vezina of the East.
Originally Posted by The Montreal Daily Mail - Dec 13, 1915
During the intermission he hustled George Vezina, recognized as the best goal-keeper in the NHA, into one of the Guards uniforms.
This was from an a game where NHA all-stars played an army team. For the third period, the coach of the army team (Vezina's coach on the Habs.) snuck Vezina into the army teams goal. Here is the scoring per period:
1st: 4-1 NHA
2nd: 5-1 NHA
3rd: 3-1 Army
Originally Posted by The Morning Leader - Mar 17, 1925
Number One Team- Goal, Georges Vezina; defence, Sprague Cleghorn and Hod Stuart (deceased); center, Frank Nighbor; right wing, undrafted; left wing, Tommy Phillips (deceased)
This was from a MacLeans article about the best Canadian hockey players. The article I'm quoting was critical of the list for East coast bias. And there were many things on the three teams that raised my eyebrows. But it is still useful to see how some regarded Vezina while he was alive.
Benedict and Vezina were the "kings of the net" of their era (via vecens0
Originally Posted by Saskatoon Star-Phoenix, Nov 13, 1930
In the days when goalers were not allowed to drop to the ice to stop shots, Benedict was dubbed “Tumbling Clint” because he insisted on going to his knees to stop shots, and the records of those distant days indicate he was penalized more than once for thus breaking the playing rules. Later, when it became permissible for a goaler to drop to any position he wished to stop a shot, Benedict became almost unbeatable. He and the late Georges Vezina were the admitted kings of the net.
Originally Posted by King Clancy, via Great Goaltenders: Stars of Hockey’s Golden Age by Jim Barber
(Benedict) was superb. A lot of people say that Georges Vezina was the greatest goaltender in those early days of hockey, but if you look at the records you’ll see that Clint Benedict…had a better average
Originally Posted by Who's Who In Hockey by Stan Fischler
While the consensus through the years points to the legendary Georges Vezina as the first great goalkeeper of pro hockey, a bit of further investigation reveals that Clint Benedict had a better overall goals-against average and was also single-handedly responsible for introducing the practice of flopping to the ice to stop a shot. He was also one of the first goalies to use a face mask.
Notice that the case for Benedict always goes back to his Goals against Average
Originally Posted by Jack Adam
When you talk about goaltenders, you have to start with Georges Vezina. By an almost unanimous vote of hockey people, he was the greatest the game has ever had. I remember him fairly well.
In 1918 when I broke into the National League with Toronto, Vezina was with Les Canadians. He was near the end of his career, but was still a marvel in the nets, as I found out the first time I skated in on him.
I thought I had him beat, I thought I had a cinch goal, but he had figured exactly what I was going to do, and brushed aside the shot, as easily as you'd strike a match.
Originally Posted by Jack Adams
Vezina was a big fellow... I'd say he was about five feet 11 inches tall, without his skates on and he looked even taller in uniform because he always wore a red and blue toque. He had big hands and he used an exceptionally long stick.
He played a stand-up game, sliding from post to post, making save that seemed impossible by outguessing the puck carriers.
That was his strong point. Like all great goalers, he studied the styles of every forward in the league. He could sense what one of them would do under a given set of circumstances and was usually prepared. He guess wrong sometimes, of course, but not often.
I played against Vezina for three or four years. Many times he broke my heart by turning back what looked like a certain score. He was a real master. He had perfect co-ordination and an uncanny instinct.
Jack Adams then went on to say that due to changes in the nature of the position, Vezina might not actually be any more effective than the best recent goalies (Charlie Gardiner, John Ross Roach, and Tiny Thompson were named). Marty Barry was present for the interview and this is his reaction:
Adams was now striking at one of the legends of hockey. Marty Barry, sitting on a rubber table next to the Honey Walker, was startled. Never before had he heard anyone question Vezina's superiority. He was too surprised to interrupt and Adams went on (about the changes in the game making a goalie's job harder since Vezina's time)
"I see what you mean," said Barry, only half convinced.
I think it's clear that rightly or wrongly by 1936 - 10 years after Vezina's death - "conventional wisdom" considered him the best goalie of the era - better than Clint Benedict, Hugh Lehman, or Hap Holmes.
Later, in 1953:
Jack Adams said he thought that the only old-timer who might measure up to the to the modern goalers was the immortal Georges Vezina himself.
But Vezina played in the days of parallel passing and kitty-bar-the-door when a lot of shots were fired from far out. We doubt if he would be as successful today unless he changed his style. But we think that Vezina, Clint Benedict, George Haimsworth, Roy Worters, and other great goalers of the past would be about to adapt to the changing conditions. They were only as good as they had to be.
1) Benedict led the NHL in team stats GAA, wins, and shutouts many times.
2) The fact that Ottawa's GAA tanked after Benedict left is proof he wasn't a product of his team.
I'll address point 2 first. My argument with mark over George Hainsworth led to an interesting discovery: Montreal's GAA tanked after Vezina left and recovered as soon as they got Hainsworth. In 1922-23, Montreal was 2nd best of 4 teams in GAA. In 1923-24 and 1924-25, Montreal was 1st in GAA. Vezina played every game both seasons. Vezina only played 1 game in the 1925-26 season and Montreal's GAA tanked to 6th out of 7 teams backstopped by Herb Rheaume and Frenchy Lacroix! They brought in George Hainsworth for the 1926-27 season, and led the NHL in GAA three seasons in a row.
By contrast, after Clint Benedict left Ottawa, their GAA dropped from 2 of 4 to 4 of 6 teams as a young Alec Connell replaced Benedict. 2 years after Benedict left, Ottawa was back up to 1st in GAA (the 1925-26 season Montreal's starters were a mess).
So no, Benedict wasn't a product of his team. But his personal contribution to GAA does not appear to be unique.
So then the entire statistical argument for Clint Benedict boils down to point 1 - his team stats were the most impressive of the era. I've become increasingly suspicious of Benedict's team stats - after all, in Ottawa, he played behind Frank Nighbor, the best defensive forward of the era. He played behind Eddie Gerard, Georges Boucher, and King Clancy. At one point, the two best defensemen in the world (Eddie Gerard and Sprague Cleghorn) played in front of Benedict. And this was an era when starters played the majority of the game, so these guys could dominate for the majority of the game. It should be noted that Ottawa led the NHL in GAA 5 seasons in a row, then Eddie Gerard retired at the end of the 1922-23 season and they fell to second the following season (Benedict's last with the team).
Not to mention the fact that Benedict's teams tended to be very defensive minded, while Vezina played behind "the Flying Frenchmen."
Iain Fyffe's "points allocation system" attempts to boil down a player's contributions to a single number, much like hockey-reference's "points shares," but unlike the guys at hockey-reference who are stats guys brought over from other sports, Iain is actually a hockey fan. In fact, I doubt there is anyone in the world more qualified at statistical analysis of the early era. The system isn't perfect - it's impossible to perfectly determine a single player's contribution to winning a hockey game based on statistics, especially the limited ones of the early era. But it's a vast improvement off a straight up look at team stats like GAA, because it attempts to separate player from team.
Oh dear, that didn't help much did it? Vezina has a better career average (though that might be due to missing stats for his pre-Montreal days), but Benedict had better best seasons. Vezina was strikingly consistent, which is quite a tribute given the shoddy defences he often played behind in his early years. Benedict generally benefited from better teams in front of him, but was still remarkable in his own right.
If I had to choose, I'd probably go with Vezina, since you would know exactly what you were going to get. Benedict could often be better, but sometime noticeably worse as well. Hard to complain about either of them.
I don't think we can rely on team stats any longer to make the case for Benedict over Vezina.
Conclusion: Georges Vezina should be considered Clint Benedict's equal. Multiple contemporary sources view Vezina, not Benedict, as the best goalie of the era, and they did so both before and after his early death. The case for Benedict as the best of his era relies entirely on team-dependent stats.
The majority of sources that call Benedict the best goalie of the era are books and articles written long after he died, that point to his team-dependent stats as evidence. The majority of people who watched them play seem to prefer Vezina. Normally, I'd say that at this point, the evidence points to Vezina as a clearly better goalie than Benedict. But this is a unique case - Benedict's style of goaltending was not appreciated in his era. His nickname "Praying Benny" was not a compliment and was a derisive nickname, making fun of how he looked when he dropped to his knees.
However, I think the evidence is also clear that there is no longer any reason other than hfboards canon (which is mainly based off of team-dependent stats) to rank Benedict over Vezina.
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He was a strong-skating defenseman with all-around ability. Although his roughness was a perfect fit on the rugged Maroons, he was by no means a cheap-shot artist. He was a stay-at-home defender, although his 13 assists in 43 games in 1929-30 suggests he was capable of leading a rush.” – Hockey-Notes.com
Mervyn Dutton, forever known as Red thanks to his flaming hair, was a mean, no nonsense defender in the days between the two World Wars. Though long forgotten, he still ranks among the all the best.-Joe Pelletier
Dutton certainly was front and center in the rivalry over his time there, clashing with the infamous Sprague Cleghorn on a few occasions. One night famed reporter Trent Frayne said that in the battle between the two of them "blood flowed like wine."- Joe Pelletier
“In another contest the opening face off was delayed because the referee could not find a puck to play with. The truculent man clearly had other things than scoring goals on his mind, as he supposedly became frustrated and shouted "Never mind the damn puck! Let's start the game!”" – Joe Pelletier
”"Get that man!" and "Keep punching!" were two of his favorite expressions” – Hockey-Notes.com
"He bashed all comers with fine disregard for reputations. He loved nothing better than to leave an opponent lying on the ice gasping for breath." – Montreal Star
”I wasn't a good hockey player, but I was a good competitor” – Red Rutton
Awards and Acheivements:
2 x WCHL First Team All-Star (1922, 1924)
Hart Voting- 4th(1932), 5th(1936)
Russell Bowie's Offensive Dominance Over His Generation
As promised, here is my essay on Russell Bowie. If you want to read quotes about how he played, they are all contained in the Dreakmur/Nalyd bio. Some of the stats here are directly lifted from that bio as well.
I think a lot of GMs realize that Bowie was the leading goal scorer of his generation and probably didn't bring any non-offensive skills. But I think what might be lost in the conversation is the scale of Bowie's dominance.
I. THE SCALE OF BOWIE'S DOMINATION
Over the course of Bowie's athletic prime, he basically doubled the second best goal scorer
From 1899 to 1908, Bowie scored 239 goals in 80 games (2.99 GPG). Blair Russell, the next closest scorer, had 109 goals in 67 games (1.62)
Bowie scored 219% as many goals as his closest competitor - his advantage drops to "only" 184% on a per-game basis. (Compare to Wayne Gretzky who scored 187% as many points as 2nd place Mark Messier from 1979-80 to 1993-94).
Even if you cherrypick the absolute best years of the best players of the decade, Bowie easily beats them - and remember, Bowie's prime lasted much longer than these guys
Frank McGee vs. Russell Bowie (1903-1906)
McGee = 71 goals
Bowie = 106 goals
Bowie beat McGee by 33% over the entire course of McGee's career
Ernie Russell vs. Russell Bowie (1905-1908)
Russell = 90 goals
Bowie = 127 goals
Bowie beat Russell by 29%
Tommy Phillips vs. Russell Bowie (1905-1908)
Phillips = 94 goals
Bowie = 127 goals
This is not quite comparable because these are different leagues, but is worth noting that Bowie, while probably not quite in his prime anymore, scored 26% more goals than Tommy Phillips during Phillips absolute prime.
SIHR counted assists based off the detailed newspaper accounts in the era. This data suggests that Bowie could get the puck to his teammates better than most other players in the era.
No players have assists recorded for them in 1901, 1902, or 1905.
These are the only 5 seasons of his career for which we have assist data.
His finishes: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 7th
His VS2 scores: 100, 100, 100, 75, 60
His VS1 scores: 100, 89, 75, 56, 33
At 0.50 assists per game, Bowie would be second to Alf Smith's 0.72 in reconstructed assists for the era, and he didn't have star linemates to pass to like Smith did. Bowie's league/competition
Bowie played in the CAHL and the ECAHA, which were actually the same league under different names, between 1899 and 1908, which were not the only leagues in the world, but they were certainly the best leagues in the world. This line of leagues would eventually change its name to the NHA. The vast majority of hockey's top talents of the time were playing in these leagues.
The Stanley Cup was usually controlled by these leagues (see the profile for more details).
Iain Fyffe's blog shows just how much Bowie dominated his peers
Iain uses a stastistical formula to rank players from the early eras for HHOF consideration. It's a stat-based formula so it does overrate Bowie's overall impact IMO, since he brings little but offense. But it does give a good idea of his statistical dominance over his peers on a yearly basis.
Originally Posted by Hockey Histrionics, Jan 12, 2012 - The Meritorious Men of the 1900s
Russell Bowie is far and away the player with the most notable career from this era. He had several seasons that are simply massive, with his best being 1901, when he scored 24 goals despite missing one of his team's eight scheduled matches. The next-highest goal-scorer had 10 goals. Bowie scored more goals in seven games than the entire Quebec team did in eight games.
Of all the seasons Iain studied (every season of hockey until 1927-28), Bowie had the 1st, 2nd, and 7th most dominant seasons (dominance defined as dominance over his peers):
Originally Posted by Hockey Historysis, Feb 13, 2012
Bowie led the Canadian Amateur Hockey League (CAHL) in 1900/01 with 24 goals, despite his missing one of his team's eight matches. The next-best player had 10 goals. Hall-of-Fame forwards like Harry Trihey, Art Farrell, Rat Westwick, Bruce Stuart and Blair Russel could manage no more than 10 goals, yet Bowie put in 24. Bowie scored more goals than the entire Quebec hockey club did. Like Gretzky and Orr at their best, Bowie was playing the game at a different level.
Havilland Routh and Art Hooper also pass the Gretzky-Orr threshold, but only for a single season each. Bowie possessing three of the top seven seasons here demonstrates that his appearance at the top of the list is no fluke. He had three seasons that were better than anything Howie Morenz or Cyclone Taylor ever did. It doesn't matter how great you believe Russell Bowie was; you're probably still underrating him.
Iain defines "better" as "dominating his peers." The ATD, on the other hand, has long recognized that hockey developed a lot between Bowie's generation and Cyclone Taylor's. If it didn't, we'd be drafting Bowie before Taylor.
Bowies overall scoring finishes
Bowie led the major hockey world in goals 5 times: He led the CHL/ECHA in 1901, 1903, 1904, 1905, and 1908.
He finished 2nd in goals 3 times: 1902, 1906, 1907.
If you add in reconstructed assists for all players, Bowie led the major hockey world in points 7 times. He finished a close 2nd in goals in 1906 and 1907 to 2 different players, but reconstructed assists for every player would give him enough to finish 1st in points both seasons. He would still finish 2nd in points for 1902.
II. THERE WAS NO GAP IN TIME BETWEEN RUSSELL BOWIE'S GENERATION AND CYCLONE TAYLOR / NEWSY LALONDE
Senior Level Careers
Russell Bowie = 1899-1910
Cyclone Taylor = 1905-1923
Newsy Lalonde = 1904-1927
Bowie retired from the ECHA in 1908 after the league became completely professional (he had this quaint notion about how hockey should be a purely amateur pursuit). Bowie led the ECHA in goals and points in 1907-08, the last season the league allowed amateur players, so it's highly likely he could have maintained that level in the top league.
A 23 year old Cyclone Taylor (at that point still a defenseman) joined the ECHA in 1907-08 during Bowie's last season there. He would remain in the league as it changed its name to the NHA in 1909-10 before heading out west in 1912-13.
A 23 year old Newsy Lalonde joined the league in 1909-10, the first year it was called the NHA. This would be Russel Bowie's last year of senior hockey in a different league.
III. SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE THE DOMINANT OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE GENERATION IMMEDIATELY BEFORE TAYLOR/LALONDE?
Obviously, this is an impossible question to answer with precision. If we take the idea that "all generations are equal" seriously, Bowie actually dominated his generation more than Cyclone Taylor did. But there is good reason to believe that hockey took major strides between generations.
At the end of Vol. 1 of The Trail of the Stanley Cup the author, Charles L. Coleman, selected his all-star team for 1893-1926. He considered Cyclone Taylor and Newsy Lalonde to be rovers, not forwards.
The nominees for forwards were: Russell Bowie, Harry Broadbent, Jack Darragh, Cy Denneny, Frank Foyston, Harry Hyland, Joe Malone, Frank Nighbor, Didier Pitre, Gordon Roberts, and Ernie Russell
He selected Russell Bowie, Joe Malone and Frank Nighbor.
I don't think Coleman knew anything we don't when he put together his all-star team. He simply made a judgment call that Bowie had a more impressive career than the likes of Cy Denneny and Frank Foyston.
Someone like Cy Denneny has a lot of extra ATD-value as a physical presence, but it is possible that Russell Bowie was actually a better goal scorer than Cy Denneny. I don't know if it's likely, but how far behind could he be?
If Cyclone Taylor and Newsy Lalonde are legit late first round or early second round picks, why is Bowie not considered at least one of the top second line scorers in the draft? (Not including obvious first liners like Bathgate and Cook).
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I realized BBS's bio project was lacking one of Mike Grant, so I dug up one from Leafs Central that jarek made several years ago. So props to him on this one.
Mike Grant, D
Position: Defenseman HT/WT: 5'10", 170 lbs
- inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1950.
- 4-time Stanley Cup Champion (1896, 1897, 1898, 1899)
- top-10s in points among defensemen in AHAC (3rd with 1 point (1895), 3rd with 3 points (1896), 3rd with 3 points (1897))
I wouldn't put too much stock into his point totals, as they were very low, and those were low scoring days back then. Most of what we know about him is purely anecdotal:
Best Skater of the Earlies
Most Consistent Player of the Earlies
Retro Norris (1895, 1896, 1897, 1899, 1899)
Retro Hart (1896, 1898)
Apparently he was a defensive mastermind:
In 1894, *** ********* and ****** ***** were added to the roster, as was defender extraordinaire Mike Grant. Although it was not easy to replace ******** on the blue-line, Mike Grant stood tall. An outstanding skater who at age 11 had won speed skating titles in three different age groups, he subbed for an injured ******** in a mid-January match against the MAAA. He made his first start on February 10 against the MAAA, an assignment in which he did anything but disappoint. One newspaper reporter spoke of a defender "impossible to get by." In his five starts in 1894, the Victorias went 4-1, allowing but eight goals. And four of these goals came in a February 24 loss to Quebec, a game in which Grant started at forward rather than at his usual cover-point position.
He seemed to be a tough customer as well:
... the Victorias were up 2-1 late in the second half when Grant was sent off for roughing.
In the end, he was a remarkable two-way performer:
The Victorias' combination play, or run-and-gun, came together in 1894. Solid forward play combined with Grant's consistent brilliance to provide a two-way punch.
Mike Grant's Ultimate Hockey bio:
Mike Grant was one of hockey's first celebrities. From what is known, he literally packed arenas across eastern Canada from the mid 1890s onward. He was the first player about whom newspapermen consistently wrote and, although **** ******** was probably the first of the pre-modern rushers, Grant was quite certainly the finest.
Grant showed great athletic ability early in life, winning speed skating titles in three different age categories. As a teen, he earned a solid reputation among Montreal's Junior hockey community. Several "seconds", or agents, for AHAC clubs approached the blacksmith's son, guaranteeing him a spot on their sides. He hung back, though, if only because he felt tied to his family's business. He was afraid his father would disapprove.
But just before the start of the 1892 hockey season, Grant was permitted to try out for the Young Crystals, the Montreal Crystals' junior club. He of course made the team and within a season was the captain. Grant was snatched up by the Montreal Victorias in late 1893. He would captain this fine club to Stanley Cup victories in 1895, 1896 and 1897. In 1901, Grant joined the Montreal Shamrocks before finishing his glorious career back with the Vics.
After a refereeing stint, Grant became the first Canadian ambassador for the game of hockey in the United States. He embarked on a number of goodwill ventures to America, playing in exhibition games and "giving much good advice on skating and hockey to our neighbors across the border."
As a player, Grant did much to popularize the rush. His skating ability, both in terms of flat-out speed and overall power, was in a class of its own. He had a roguish air to him that served to stoke his fans' imaginations. It's easy to picture him tearing up the ice on one of his patented rushes, his trademark handlebar mustache twitching in the cool night air.
Not that it has anything to do with hockey, but Grant's oldest son Donald, a wizard on Wall Street, ended up as a top executive with major league baseball's New York Mets in 1962.
Mike Grant was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1950.
Here is some stuff courtesy of overpass. It describes his play later in his career.
From the first match, Toronto Star, January 30, 1901:
"Grant tried to body *******, but was a little slow and went into the fence. That was Grant's characteristic throughout the match. He did fairly well, but from his reputation on the old Victoria team the Shamrocks expected better.
Then ***** and ******* got into a snarl and were ruled off. Grant did some heavy body-checking, but evidently was not fast enough. **** scored by a pass from Bain."
"In the meantime a judicious change was made on the Shamrock defence. Grant was brought back to point, where his stops proved invaluable."
From the second match, Toronto Star, February 1, 1901:
On the Shamrock team Grant was sent to point and **** to cover."
Greatest Hockey Legends
Mike Grant was the premier defensive specialist of 1890s ice hockey, playing the ancient position of cover-point primarily for the Montreal Victorias of the Amateur Hockey Association of Canada and the Canadian Amateur Hockey League.
A very strong case can be made that Mike Grant was hockey's first true star; he was the first player to actually draw crowds that would sell out ice rinks all over Eastern Canada. He was also the first hockey player that newspaper reporters consistently reported on which helped popularize the game via the press.
Although there is no videotape of 1890s hockey, or Grant specifically, we do know a bit about his game. He was a tremendous leader of men, played a fine brand of defensive hockey, was most likely the quickest skater in the game, and he was the finest puck-rusher of early hockey by practically all accounts. In fact, it may have been Grant who influenced later puck-rushers like Art Ross and Lester Patrick to master this art. It is safe to assume that if a Norris Trophy was awarded back in Grant's era he would have earned perhaps four or five as he was the premier dominant defensive player of his time. Similarly, it could be easily argued that Grant would have won at least one Hart Trophy and maybe even a Conn Smythe Trophy had there been such awards.
The Trail, Vol. 1
Another great defence star of this era was Mike Grant. He made his bow with the Victorias on February 10th, against Montreal. This gentleman, sporting a generous moustache, was very prominent with his frequent rushes and boisterous play.
Feb. 10th Stanley Cup Challenge game in 1896:
... Capt. Mike Grant was a feature with his end-to-end rushes from defence but found ******** impossible to beat in the Winnipeg goal
1899 game against Ottawa:
The game at Ottawa between the same teams was a hotly contested one with Mike Grant standing out with his end-to-end rushes, on one of which he scored.
Seems like even the Trail supports him being a physical guy.
Here is a little statistical stuff to back up Grant's defensive play. As we know, players played practically the whole game during this era, so any change in personnel could be significant offensively or defensively to a team.
Grant's time with the Victorias, out of 5 teams:
1893 (year before he joined): 20 GF (5th), 35 GA (4th)
1894: 36 GF (1st), 20 GA (3rd)
1895: 35 GF (1st), 20 GA (1st)
1896: 41 GF (1st), 24 GA (3rd)
1897: 48 GF (1st), 26 GA (T-2nd)
1898: 53 GF (1st), 33 GA (2nd)
1899: 44 GF (1st), 23 GA (2nd)
1900: 44 GF (2nd), 55 GA (5th) - Grant only played 2 games this season, and clearly the team was hurting for it defensively!
1901: 45 GF (1st), 32 GA (3rd) - Grant played for the Shamrocks this season (30 GF (3rd), 25 GA (2nd)), but as evidenced by the difference in GA numbers, he was still a factor defensively, even though he was slowing down
1902: 36 GF (2nd), 25 GA (3rd) - Victorias numbers, he played 7 games for them this season, but again, he was pretty much done as a player, and the Victorias seemed to feel it in the stats!
Since we have specific information on 1894, I'd like to touch on it in more detail. In total, the Victorias allowed 20 goals that season. Of the 4 Grant played cover-point, only 4 of those 20 goals were allowed. He played one more game that season as a forward, where Victoria allowed 4 goals. Looking at it another way, Grant played 50% of the Victorias' games that season at cover-point, and in those games, only 20% of the total goals were allowed. In the other 50% of the games, of which he played 1 as a forward, the other 80% of the goals were scored. Looking at it in yet another way, of the games Grant played in as cover-point, the team allowed 1 goal per game. In every other game, the team allowed 4 goals per game. Clearly he was a defensive stalwart!
He did not play past 1902. As we can see from these stats, he was clearly a factor for his teams during his prime. He took them from 5th and 4th to 1st and 3rd in GF and GA immediately, and from then on, they never placed lower than 1st for scoring for the next 5 seasons, and never worse than 3rd (only twice) in GA during that same stretch. The numbers certainly support the anecdotes in this case.
To put it in a more broad perspective, of the 6 seasons we can say the team, and likely Grant starred in (1894-1899), the Victorias scored 257 goals. The next best team, Montreal, scored 177 goals. That is 80 goals fewer over that 6 year stretch! On the defensive side of the puck, during that stretch, the Victorias allowed 146 goals, tying Montreal for the fewest goals allowed. Ottawa allowed 161 for 3rd place. That is 15 goals fewer than the next most stingiest team. Grant clearly had a significant impact on both goals for AND against during his tenure on the Victorias!
Despite never scoring in a Stanley Cup match, Grant's rushing abilities are very highly spoken of. I think it's fair to say that he was likely an excellent playmaker of his day, but without assist totals for the years which he played, we may never know. I don't think this guy's rushing abilities would be spoken of so highly if he wasn't making plays for his teammates. Beyond all that though, he was clearly an elite defensive defenseman of his day, and likely a rough customer as well.
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