As a certified hockey coach, I've always coached to win every game. I've always tried to instill a winning attitude with my players.
You just can't expect an NHL team to roll over and lose. The players are not taught to pick and chose when to win or lose. It's their job to play at the highest level at all times.
I just don't understand any fan that cheers against his own team.
As a certified hockey coach, I've always coached to win every game. I've always tried to instill a winning attitude with my players.
You just can't expect an NHL team to roll over and lose. The players are not taught to pick and chose when to win or lose. It's their job to play at the highest level at all times.
I just don't understand any fan that cheers against his own team.
Of course no fan thinks that a professional hockey player or team is going to lose on purpose. That being said as someone who wants a lottery pick rather than the usual middling draft pick the last sentence of yours that I bolded is what is so frustrating. Where was the effort when they had a playoff position and then just went into a tank of a huge proportion that teams like the Islanders,the old Thrashers or the Bolts would have given grudging admiration to. Where was the highest level of play versus Boston every single game this season? That is the frustration that tankers have. Basically most of us are sick of the same old same old with this franchise. Be nice to see a real top notch pick in the draft. Last one was Wendel Clark drafted first overall 27 years ago.
As a certified hockey coach, I've always coached to win every game. I've always tried to instill a winning attitude with my players.
You just can't expect an NHL team to roll over and lose. The players are not taught to pick and chose when to win or lose. It's their job to play at the highest level at all times.
I just don't understand any fan that cheers against his own team.
For the better of the team in the long run.
If we win the remainder of our games, we still wont win the Stanley Cup. The result of the season will be a failure.
If we finish in the lottery, and then win, we get an asset that is more likely to help us win the Stanley Cup than the guy we will get at #6 or wherever we finish.
Of course no fan thinks that a professional hockey player or team is going to lose on purpose. That being said as someone who wants a lottery pick rather than the usual middling draft pick the last sentence of yours that I bolded is what is so frustrating. Where was the effort when they had a playoff position and then just went into a tank of a huge proportion that teams like the Islanders,the old Thrashers or the Bolts would have given grudging admiration to. Where was the highest level of play versus Boston every single game this season? That is the frustration that tankers have. Basically most of us are sick of the same old same old with this franchise. Be nice to see a real top notch pick in the draft. Last one was Wendel Clark drafted first overall 27 years ago.
I will have to agree with this post. It seems some anti-tankers just don't get it. Most pro-tankers don't actually believe the team will lose on purpose. I don't even know why you guys keep reiterating that. It's about the constant frustration with this team and the losing when it counts and winning when it doesn't.
Remember all the talk about late season surges equaling a winning environment that will help in the long run? Yeah, that's worked great, hasn't it?
Seriously, we have this same conversation every year. We have this same scenario play out every year. We're stuck in the same spot every year. And yet, the anti-tankers take offense to us wanting to see something different for a change?
Say what you will about Kadri. We haven't had a guy like him for a long time. Mogilny or Berezin maybe. He may not be the grittiest player in the world but he's got heart. See how excited he gets after he scores. Stuff like that rubs off on other guys. Love it.
As a certified hockey coach, I've always coached to win every game. I've always tried to instill a winning attitude with my players.
You just can't expect an NHL team to roll over and lose. The players are not taught to pick and chose when to win or lose. It's their job to play at the highest level at all times.
I just don't understand any fan that cheers against his own team.
You sir, are a man. Keep up the good work and never go down the road of the losers.
IMO, this team is way better than record suggests. Brian Burke has done a B+ grade job on the roster he inherited. Coaching too is one of the best. Goalies are average but workable. Forwards are talented enough to score 230 goals a season. Defense and prospects in system are of a playoff team.
The biggest bummer on this team is lack of leadership. Not lack of talent. The team went wrong way and the team leadership couldn't step up to the occasion. Leafs need someone who is a true captain. On and off the ice. It's been 40+ years since Leafs stripped C of a player; but Phaneuf doesn't look like the guy who can lead this team to glory. May be, give it to Lupul after december next year? (if he performs on ice)
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Originally Posted by LeafsMonster
So thats thomas x2, miller, brodeur, missing any other major goalie that kadri has scored on?
If we win the remainder of our games, we still wont win the Stanley Cup. The result of the season will be a failure.
If we finish in the lottery, and then win, we get an asset that is more likely to help us win the Stanley Cup than the guy we will get at #6 or wherever we finish.
Sounds great in theory, but that assumes players, coaches, and management will actually go out and conspire to lose the last whatever number of games in order to get the best possible draft position. Sorry, but that's the land of make-believe, not reality.
If you are a player on the Leafs you want to keep your job. If a top end talent comes in, someone loses their job. So they dont care who the Leafs draft.
But the coaching staff and management can put the team in the best situation to lose games. Suddenly call a bunch of guys up from the minors to "see what we have". Play a goalie with very little experience. Give minutes to guys who cant handle it.
The players will still try to win, but you just increase the chances of them losing.
There is a school of thought that constant losing can be bad for a team's development, but I dont see any value in going 3-7 in your last 10 vs going 1-9. I dont think the 3 and 7 team will go into the off season with their heads held high.
I will have to agree with this post. It seems some anti-tankers just don't get it. Most pro-tankers don't actually believe the team will lose on purpose. I don't even know why you guys keep reiterating that. It's about the constant frustration with this team and the losing when it counts and winning when it doesn't.
Remember all the talk about late season surges equaling a winning environment that will help in the long run? Yeah, that's worked great, hasn't it?
Seriously, we have this same conversation every year. We have this same scenario play out every year. We're stuck in the same spot every year. And yet, the anti-tankers take offense to us wanting to see something different for a change?
Perhaps the tankers don't get it? There's numerous teams (in fact most of the best teams) who never have to tank to get there (Detroit, New Jersey, Philly, San Jose, etc.). Perhaps the "anti-tankers" want 100% from their team every night and solid drafting from whatever position they end up in?
couldn't agree more
