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03-24-2012, 09:20 PM
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Its a misplay, but not on Erixon at all. He did the best he could. Even a hall of fame Defensemen is going to have a hard time on that play. It would only be Erixon's fault if back checkers were able to get back and take the puck carrier.

Hank and Erixon are not to blame for the first goal.
Yeah, any time you're starting to put blame on the goalie or the lone defenseman left in yet another oddman rush, you have to start looking back at the mess that resulted in that play.

It's not Hank's and Erixon's fault they couldn't cover up for this team playing retarded hockey. If you do that, you basically say we are playing hockey which should allow oddman rushes. It's pretty much the opposite of the kind of hockey that made this team successful.

That goal is either on Bickel or the guy who is supposed to cover up for him when he does the patented, retarded NYR D-man pinch that we somehow keep doing, despite measly results pretty much since we started doing it. It's a breakdown in communication and it's on Torts for allowing them to keep doing that stuff.

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I just wonder if Lundqvist wasnt in net if NYR would thee RANGERS even be a playoff team and if they are they would be a 7th or 8th seed...

Great 2 points.

they need more scoring,secondary scoring,i just dont get it.The talent is there.

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03-24-2012, 09:22 PM
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Just because one play caused the situation doesn't absolve another player from responsibility. Kessel went around Erixon to get the puck across. I can't even remember the last time we saw that with Girardi, McDonagh, Staal or even Del Zotto.

It's fine. Erixon is a rookie and rookies make rookie mistakes. But it was still a mistake.
Its not a mistake. He made the right play. The mistake would have been getting too aggressive to the puck carrier and trying to stand him up. He tried to take away the middle, it didn't work.

He was up against Phil Kessel, the opposing teams leading point getter, with another man streaking to his left. Not much he can do, I have seen Ray Bourque get beat on plays just like that as well.

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Good news: we won
Bad news: we really need get over this hump of letting teams back in a game after we tie or take a lead

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Its not a mistake. He made the right play. The mistake would have been getting too aggressive to the puck carrier and trying to stand him up. He tried to take away the middle, it didn't work.
So there's only one mistake that can be made on that play? Please. He made the right play at the wrong time. The defenseman's job is to take away the pass. He failed (aka, "it didn't work") because he mistimed his commitment. That's called a mistake. Luckily, Tortorella will sit down with him and they'll watch the video and Tortorella will tell him "wait to commit just a half a second more and they have no chance to make the play" and, because Erixon is coachable, he will get it.

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Thanks, I needed that. I really needed that. That, and the national anthem in Ottawa saved my night.

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That fistbump was akward lol.

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Erixon did take himself out of the play lunging at the Leaf player to the outside. He played a good game and is settling in, but that was definitely an error on his part.

Oh well, he is learning and doing okay. I'm pretty happy that there was someone like him to get called up. And at the right time to get settled before the playoffs.
He didn't lunge at the guy on the outside, he went straight down and tried to take away the pass but Kessel made a real nice pass to slide it just between Erixon and Lundqvist. It was a good attempt, but a better play by Kessel

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Rangers own the best record in hockey. More wins. More ROW's. Both played 75 games.
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That is awesome. Thank you. I guess it was schoenfeld next to him. Too bad the stogie was in his hand

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So there's only one mistake that can be made on that play? Please. He made the right play at the wrong time. The defenseman's job is to take away the pass. He failed (aka, "it didn't work") because he mistimed his commitment. That's called a mistake. Luckily, Tortorella will sit down with him and they'll watch the video and Tortorella will tell him "wait to commit just a half a second more and they have no chance to make the play" and, because Erixon is coachable, he will get it.
I'm sorry dude but this is just silly.

So the coach is going to tell him to wait a half second more on the next two on 1? That is going to fix it? All you can coach is positioning in that play. Erixon's positioning is fine. The fact that play happened is the problem. If the Defensemen and goalie breaks it up, great. If they don't, thats on Bickel and the back checkers.

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He didn't lunge at the guy on the outside, he went straight down and tried to take away the pass but Kessel made a real nice pass to slide it just between Erixon and Lundqvist. It was a good attempt, but a better play by Kessel
Exactly, someone with some common sense.

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He didn't lunge at the guy on the outside, he went straight down and tried to take away the pass but Kessel made a real nice pass to slide it just between Erixon and Lundqvist. It was a good attempt, but a better play by Kessel
I'll look at it again with a decent replay. Thanks.

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I'm sorry dude but this is just silly.

So the coach is going to tell him to wait a half second more on the next two on 1? That is going to fix it? All you can coach is positioning in that play. Erixon's positioning is fine. The fact that play happened is the problem. If the Defensemen and goalie breaks it up, great. If they don't, thats on Bickel and the back checkers.
You're right about the silliness. You think that all there is to defending a 2-on-1 is positioning? No reaction comes into play at all? I hate to ask this question... but have you ever played.... well, any sport?

And by the way, I don't think he lunged either. The coach will tell him to recognize the speed of the play and be slightly more patient. It's that simple.

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Sather was pretty damned happy. How often do we see him doing anything remotely like that? At least I can't recall him bending the corners of his mouth up that far very often.

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You're right about the silliness. You think that all there is to defending a 2-on-1 is positioning? No reaction comes into play at all? I hate to ask this question... but have you ever played.... well, any sport?

And by the way, I don't think he lunged either. The coach will tell him to recognize the speed of the play and be slightly more patient. It's that simple.
Sure, have you?

You can't coach timing against a top offensive player on a 2 on 1. The only thing you can prepare for is positioning.

Its pretty obvious you have never played Defense on a hockey team. No, your street skating doesn't count.

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You're right about the silliness. You think that all there is to defending a 2-on-1 is positioning? No reaction comes into play at all? I hate to ask this question... but have you ever played.... well, any sport?

And by the way, I don't think he lunged either. The coach will tell him to recognize the speed of the play and be slightly more patient. It's that simple.
I'll get me and one of my buddies to go 2 on 1 against you. I bet we'll score 10 out of 10 times. In that situation, there really isn't anything Erixon can do.

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I'll get me and one of my buddies to go 2 on 1 against you. I bet we'll score 10 out of 10 times. In that situation, there really isn't anything Erixon can do.
I swear to God man, some people. They have no idea.

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Sure, have you?

You can't coach timing against a top offensive player on a 2 on 1. The only thing you can prepare for is positioning.

Its pretty obvious you have never played Defense on a hockey team. No, your street skating doesn't count.
Best comeback ever. Say basically the same thing to me that I just said to you. Bravo!

These are elite hockey players. Of course you can teach them when to commit on a play. If all there was to this was positioning, then the best defensemen would not be better at this than anyone else in the NHL. But somehow they are. It's because they both a.) have the ability (which Erixon does) and b.) were taught to do it properly.

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I swear to God man, some people. They have no idea.
No sir. I've been playing hockey for a long time and that play is almost impossible to cover. All you can do is get down and hope to block a cross.

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