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03-24-2012, 05:11 PM
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I agree with the first part...if he's still developing over there no need to rush him. But how is competition ever a bad thing? I really doubt any of Yogan/Thomas/Miller would be worse off if Fasth was to join them in CT. It's not like that team is stacked.
The SEL is better than the AHL. For Fasth himself, he's better served developing over there. IMO.

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The SEL is better than the AHL. For Fasth himself, he's better served developing over there. IMO.
Completely disagree.

The AHL is a much better league to develop into a NHL player. Even if the SEL has more skilled players.

Smaller rink, more physcial hockey, that is what he needs to learn now. He will learn that in the AHL not another year in the SEL.

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Regardless of style, the quality of players in the AHL is terrible compared to the top European leagues.

Deveaux, Newbury, these guys are top AHLers.

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Completely disagree.

The AHL is a much better league to develop into a NHL player. Even if the SEL has more skilled players.

Smaller rink, more physcial hockey, that is what he needs to learn now. He will learn that in the AHL not another year in the SEL.
He has plenty of time to adapt to the North American game. He's playing with much better players in Sweden. It's better for him to polish his game with superior players over there. And the Rangers apparently agree.

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minnesota v. BC tomorrow, winner gets a trip to the frozen four

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Awesome news.
**** yeah! I assume this is a 2012-13 contract, still leaving one available this year for Kreider?

EDIT: got home and checked CapGeek - the contract is for 2012-2013, so the Rangers do still have one SPC available for this year.


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The AHL vs the SEL, the simple answer, that definitely really can't be "disputed", is that in the end it comes down to each player and you also need to take into consideration the environment for each players in the two leagues.

But in general, I think the best place for say a 19-20 y/o Swede to develop his skill-set is the SEL. At the age of 19/20/21 most players need to take big steps in their development. Its important that a kid can focus on developing his game, ie skating, adding muscles, stickhandling, shooting, passing and so forth, at that age. If that Swedish kid moves to NA at the age of 19-20 y/o, often to live alone for the first time in his life, in a new continent, he also needs to focus alot to learn to play on the smaller ice, to speak a new language, to live the pro-life that differs alot from the SEL (82 games instead of 55, much more traveling etc), he won't get to focus as much on his overall game.

So if you have a kid who is looking good but needs to take a couple of more steps before he is ready, and you judge that he is 2-3 years away, I would definitely advise that you keep him in the SEL for atleast one of those years, maybe two -- if you get my point.

Then the AHL definitely can help a Swede learn the NA game. No doubt. Or a Swede can get few minutes in the SEL, and the AHL be a opertunity for him to play more. And so forth.

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The AHL vs the SEL, the simple answer, that definitely really can't be "disputed", is that in the end it comes down to each player and you also need to take into consideration the environment for each players in the two leagues.

But in general, I think the best place for say a 19-20 y/o Swede to develop his skill-set is the SEL. At the age of 19/20/21 most players need to take big steps in their development. Its important that a kid can focus on developing his game, ie skating, adding muscles, stickhandling, shooting, passing and so forth, at that age. If that Swedish kid moves to NA at the age of 19-20 y/o, often to live alone for the first time in his life, in a new continent, he also needs to focus alot to learn to play on the smaller ice, to speak a new language, to live the pro-life that differs alot from the SEL (82 games instead of 55, much more traveling etc), he won't get to focus as much on his overall game.

So if you have a kid who is looking good but needs to take a couple of more steps before he is ready, and you judge that he is 2-3 years away, I would definitely advise that you keep him in the SEL for atleast one of those years, maybe two -- if you get my point.

Then the AHL definitely can help a Swede learn the NA game. No doubt. Or a Swede can get few minutes in the SEL, and the AHL be a opertunity for him to play more. And so forth.
Agreed.

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The AHL vs the SEL, the simple answer, that definitely really can't be "disputed", is that in the end it comes down to each player and you also need to take into consideration the environment for each players in the two leagues.

But in general, I think the best place for say a 19-20 y/o Swede to develop his skill-set is the SEL. At the age of 19/20/21 most players need to take big steps in their development. Its important that a kid can focus on developing his game, ie skating, adding muscles, stickhandling, shooting, passing and so forth, at that age. If that Swedish kid moves to NA at the age of 19-20 y/o, often to live alone for the first time in his life, in a new continent, he also needs to focus alot to learn to play on the smaller ice, to speak a new language, to live the pro-life that differs alot from the SEL (82 games instead of 55, much more traveling etc), he won't get to focus as much on his overall game.

So if you have a kid who is looking good but needs to take a couple of more steps before he is ready, and you judge that he is 2-3 years away, I would definitely advise that you keep him in the SEL for atleast one of those years, maybe two -- if you get my point.

Then the AHL definitely can help a Swede learn the NA game. No doubt. Or a Swede can get few minutes in the SEL, and the AHL be a opertunity for him to play more. And so forth.
So judging by your response, I would have to assume you would think the the AHL would be best for him next season, correct?

Is he under contract with HV71 next year still? If so the chances of him coming over are very minor so it wouldnt even matter right?

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So judging by your response, I would have to assume you would think the the AHL would be best for him next season, correct?

Is he under contract with HV71 next year still? If so the chances of him coming over are very minor so it wouldnt even matter right?
In the very opening he says sel and the entire post gives reasons for sel what r u reading?

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In the very opening he says sel and the entire post gives reasons for sel what r u reading?
Yeah I dont know what that guy was reading.

What age was Lundqvist when he came over? Exactly.

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In the very opening he says sel and the entire post gives reasons for sel what r u reading?
Yea everything he is saying is that its best for a 19/20 year old to stay in SEL and work on their game. Fasth will be 21 in half a year. He has spent those 2 seasons in the SEL and he is a great player from what I gather. Now its time to go to the next level and prepare for the NHL, thus by playng in NA.

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Yeah I dont know what that guy was reading.

What age was Lundqvist when he came over? Exactly.
Not sure what your trying to say. Jasper is not a goalie. Them and defenseman take the longest to develop. Forwards do not take as long.

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Whalers lose game 2 against Guelph, 5-3 final. Miller was held without a point. Whalers down 2-0 in the series. Game 3 is Tuesday.

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Whalers lose game 2 against Guelph, 5-3 final. Miller was held without a point. Whalers down 2-0 in the series. Game 3 is Tuesday.
i hope Miller makes pro soon. i really like his game....alot more so than Kreider who is a great prospect. if Miller becomes half as good as Ryan Kesler ill be happy.. remember he was compared to Kesler at the draft...

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Oil Kings win 4-3. They trailed 3 times until they scored the winner with 5 minutes left. St Croix with a PP goal and an assist. Kings up 2-0 in their series vs Ice.

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Thomas got an assist in his teams win over Niagara. Series now 2-1 Niagara.

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Yea everything he is saying is that its best for a 19/20 year old to stay in SEL and work on their game. Fasth will be 21 in half a year. He has spent those 2 seasons in the SEL and he is a great player from what I gather. Now its time to go to the next level and prepare for the NHL, thus by playng in NA.
His bday is december which means for at least half of next season he's 20. Let's not try to fudge math because i'd hate to think that you are insinuating that everyone is stupid here and cant pick up on u rounding up and ignoring the facts for the sake of your point.. He was drafted in 2010 if he needs 3 years of SEL that is perfectly fine and sensible. You're wrong he does not need to be hurried over to the whale next year. he also missed most of this year so if you wanna do the rounding crap round down because of the missed playing time this year.

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Go to oilkings.ca

They posted highlights from yesterday's game. You'll see St. Croix's goal, but more importantly, his pass to Maxwell. Very nice.

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They posted highlights from yesterday's game. You'll see St. Croix's goal, but more importantly, his pass to Maxwell. Very nice.
Thanks. Very nice.

Where will MSC likely be playing next year?

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Thanks. Very nice.

Where will MSC likely be playing next year?
It's either NHL or juniors for him, so either he's amazing in camp, or he's an overager in the WHL, which seems to be more likely for him. He's not eligible to play in the AHL until 2013-2014.

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Thanks. Very nice.

Where will MSC likely be playing next year?
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