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03-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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1)Datsyuk
2)Hossa
3)Toews
4)Kesler
5)J. Staal

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Zetterberg
Eriksson
Bergeron
Crosby

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03-26-2012, 04:24 PM
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Giroux? What? He's good but he's def not the best in two way forward category.

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03-26-2012, 04:30 PM
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Can someone explain this "2-way" deal? is it like 80% defense and 20% offense or what?

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03-26-2012, 04:32 PM
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Datsyuk is in a class of his own. Then it's Bergeron.

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03-26-2012, 04:32 PM
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The Blues have 4 really ones. Backes, Oshie, Steen and Berglund. All 20+ goal scorers and all play great D. Sobotka doesn't score, but he's pretty good too. They all back check the hell out of you.

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03-26-2012, 04:36 PM
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I think this is pretty darn good. Might have Zetterburg over Hossa though.
I think now Hossa is better than Zetterberg. The man is a beast on the puck.

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03-26-2012, 04:36 PM
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1. Pavel Datsyuk
2. Jonathan Toews
3. Loui Eriksson
4. Ryan Kesler
5. Patrice Bergeron

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03-26-2012, 04:44 PM
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Patrice Bergeron.
Mike Richards was, but sadly hasnt been one this season. One of my favorites.
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Ryan O'Reilly
Giroux is getting there, need a little better defense to be top notch.

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03-26-2012, 04:45 PM
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You put Brad Marchand over Patrice Bergeron?
Haha that was my first reaction too

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1. Pavel Datsyuk
2. Jonathan Toews
3. Loui Eriksson
4. Ryan Kesler
5. Patrice Bergeron
I like this one

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03-26-2012, 04:46 PM
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Good to see that Hossa is finally getting recognition for his defensive prowess, I was stunned by how good he was in that department when he played for Pittsburgh.

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03-26-2012, 05:13 PM
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Lets start off with.....

Pavel Datsyuk
David Backes
Mike Richards
Ryan Callahan
TJ Oshie
Brad Marchand
Claude Giroux
Ryan Kesler
Alex Steen

who else comes to mind?
i heard that toews guy reminds people of yzerman. so i guess hes ok

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03-26-2012, 05:36 PM
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I think now Hossa is better than Zetterberg. The man is a beast on the puck.
Over the course of the full season I would agree with you, but Zetterberg since the new year has been the best 2 way forward in the league. He is scoring at over a ppg and has been shuting people down. He looks like 2007-2009 Hank, who was probably #1 in this category then.

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03-26-2012, 05:42 PM
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defintly zetts needs more love here... ericsson too.... burrows as well

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03-26-2012, 05:51 PM
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defintly zetts needs more love here... ericsson too.... burrows as well
How guys like Oshie and Marchand are mentioned before Burrows is kind of shocking. Say what you will about the guy but he is a beast defensively and a consistent 20 goal scorer.

t is very hard to think of many wingers better defensively then Burrows. Eriksson and Hossa come to mind immediately. Maybe Parise? Although I haven't watched him a lot this season.

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03-26-2012, 05:52 PM
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defintly zetts needs more love here... ericsson too.... burrows as well
Even as a lifetime Nucks fan, it's hard for me to put Burrows in anywhere above honorable mention. Not that he's by any means a bad player, but he doesn't quite match up with any of the guys in the top 10.

Top 15, more like. Like anybody does Top 15 lists these days

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03-26-2012, 06:00 PM
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How guys like Oshie and Marchand are mentioned before Burrows is kind of shocking. Say what you will about the guy but he is a beast defensively and a consistent 20 goal scorer.

t is very hard to think of many wingers better defensively then Burrows. Eriksson and Hossa come to mind immediately. Maybe Parise? Although I haven't watched him a lot this season.
I think Oshie, Marchand, Burrows and Filppula are all on the same plane. Really good players with a defense first mindset and they fly under the radar when it comes to "Who's the best" lists. But those players are not sure fire top ten in the NHL.

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03-26-2012, 06:38 PM
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Zetterberg is still a top 3 two way forward.

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03-26-2012, 07:41 PM
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That list is missing Toews and Bergeron. I mean really, Marchand over Bergeron?

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03-26-2012, 07:46 PM
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Sidney Crosby
Joe Thornton
Henrik Sedin

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03-26-2012, 07:49 PM
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Pominville definitely needs some recognition. Usually a 65-70 point guy who always kills penalties, is always out for a crucial end of game situation, is sound in his own end.

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03-26-2012, 07:50 PM
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O'Reilly is deffinately in this conversation

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03-26-2012, 07:57 PM
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I love how everyone is ripping on the OP because he didn't include certain players, when he clearly wasn't supplying a ranked list and purposely leaving players off.

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03-26-2012, 08:04 PM
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Sidney Crosby
Joe Thornton
Henrik Sedin
Joe actually takes face offs in his own zone, unlike Henrik, can't speak for Sid. Him, Marleau and Pavelski are the shutdown line and face some of the stiffest competition nightly and are incredibly successful at it. Thornton IS one of the best defensive forwards in the league, Pavelski is better and should be in the conversation, but unfortunately the Selke more than any other award is given on reputation, part of the reason is that it is so hard to quantify defensive prowess. Also it seems the award is biased toward players that are awesome defensively and really fast, whereas a less explosive guy doesn't get near enough recognition. The award is quiet flawed. Can't go wrong with Datsyuk though.

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03-26-2012, 08:11 PM
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This thread isn't name every player that has ever scored a goal and backchecked in the same game. It's the best 2-way players in the game.

My understanding of a great 2 way player would be that he is someone you can use in all situations. Last minute of a 1 goal game, he would be out there for either team. PP, PK, even strength doesn't matter.

Some people just start naming defensive forwards, while others name guys who are great offensively, and only decent defensively.

I think a great 2-way player should be great in both areas. Sure, he can be better at one than the other, but defensively and offensively he should be great.

My list:
Datsyuk
Kesler
Toews
Bergeron
Hossa

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03-26-2012, 08:18 PM
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