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03-27-2012, 09:15 AM
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And so are the newly released TaylorMade drivers.

I'd expect these to be pretty pricy.
As hockey players we're on our way to $300 sticks and $1000 skates.

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03-27-2012, 09:18 AM
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As hockey players we're on our way to $300 sticks and $1000 skates.
If TaylorMade has anything to do with it, you got that right. Perhaps their next move will be to introduce movable weight technology with the next stick complete with the ability to change the loft of the stick as well.

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03-27-2012, 09:23 AM
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If TaylorMade has anything to do with it, you got that right. Perhaps their next move will be to introduce movable weight technology with the next stick complete with the ability to change the loft of the stick as well.
Taylormade is owned by adidas, which already owns Reebok and CCM. Taylormade will have nothing to do with the price of gear moreso than they do already.

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03-27-2012, 09:43 AM
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Taylormade is owned by adidas, which already owns Reebok and CCM. Taylormade will have nothing to do with the price of gear moreso than they do already.
Sorry, my comment was tongue in cheek. I apologize for not using the sarcasm smiley. However, my guess is that a stick with the TM logo will be at a high price point.

I'm well aware that Adidas owns TaylorMade, Ashworth and now Adams Golf as well.

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03-27-2012, 09:36 PM
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I get the feeling that they are just using the name to try and increase sales. The market share that Taylormade carries in the golf industry is insane. Why not try to carry it over to the hockey market.
totally agree....IMO CCM needed SOMETHING with the year they had (no more ovi) and there stick's really not breaking any gound or gaining any respect lately

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03-27-2012, 09:49 PM
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totally agree....IMO CCM needed SOMETHING with the year they had (no more ovi) and there stick's really not breaking any gound or gaining any respect lately
Agreed. CCM sticks have always been 'meh'. The original U+ and U+CL were intriguing at first, but never translated into popular use.

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Aside from prevalent brands such as Bauer, Easton, and Warrior I see more TPS/Sherwoods sticks when I'm at the rink.

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03-28-2012, 10:02 AM
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You have to go one of two ways in an oligopoly:

- Price leadership, as in marketing a similar product with the lowest price. Usually smaller companies will do this, like Base and Harrow, although the "similar product" part is debatable.

- Product differentiation aka gimmicks. Everybody does it, some are good features (kickpoints, blade dampening), some are useless (holes in the shaft).

We'll have to see where this lands on the gimmick scale.

On the ice, it's overwhelmingly Bauer and Easton, with a pretty even sprinkling of other stuff. Few people are using high end sticks at my level, but the ones who do are usually not using CCM.

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You have to go one of two ways in an oligopoly:

- Price leadership, as in marketing a similar product with the lowest price. Usually smaller companies will do this, like Base and Harrow, although the "similar product" part is debatable.

- Product differentiation aka gimmicks. Everybody does it, some are good features (kickpoints, blade dampening), some are useless (holes in the shaft).

We'll have to see where this lands on the gimmick scale.

On the ice, it's overwhelmingly Bauer and Easton, with a pretty even sprinkling of other stuff. Few people are using high end sticks at my level, but the ones who do are usually not using CCM.
Where I am playing it's mainly Warrior and Reebok.

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03-28-2012, 12:05 PM
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You have to go one of two ways in an oligopoly:

- Price leadership, as in marketing a similar product with the lowest price. Usually smaller companies will do this, like Base and Harrow, although the "similar product" part is debatable.

- Product differentiation aka gimmicks. Everybody does it, some are good features (kickpoints, blade dampening), some are useless (holes in the shaft).

We'll have to see where this lands on the gimmick scale.

On the ice, it's overwhelmingly Bauer and Easton, with a pretty even sprinkling of other stuff. Few people are using high end sticks at my level, but the ones who do are usually not using CCM.
On my higher end team the guys prefer CCM sticks because they like the big slap shots (that fire high and wide half the time) and on my lower team they prefer Warrior because they don't break (and their equipment looks like it came from a hockey museum its so old). I stick with Easton, comfortable with the curve (Roy, used to use Gaborik and Coffey before that) but am currently using a Combat. If the CCM is priced in the general area of high end sticks I might give it a try but haven't liked their kick points for how I play so far. I broke a Thornton CCM passing a puck so that will usually make me not buy their product again.

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A top end CCM is cheaper than a top end Easton or Bauer. Do you mean that for the quality, their value doesn't compare?
I looked at a CCM U+ CL stick a year back and I remember the price being crazy.

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I looked at a CCM U+ CL stick a year back and I remember the price being crazy.
The CL is like 30 bucks less than the APX, the T1, and the RS.

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i still prefer Bauers and eastons over any other brand

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03-29-2012, 12:54 PM
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These sure are pretty, though. Maybe not $300 pretty, but wow.

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03-29-2012, 01:10 PM
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Guaranteed this stick comes in under 250 US. You can't just slap a TM sticker on it and charge 3 bills. CCM still has to compete on price, because they just aren't at the Easton/Bauer level when it comes to mindshare.

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I was at Pro Hockey Life today in their shooting range trying out some new twigs. I was asking the guy about the CCM/TM stick and he was saying that it has the hardest shot of any stick he has used. I had at this point shot about 12 different sticks (top end Bauer, Warrior, CCM, Reebok, Sherwood etc) and figured I would give it a try. I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, it has by far the hardest snap shot of any stick I have ever used. It was pretty accurate for a curve that I didn't like, but the power and speed of release was just incredible. I have no idea what they have done with this stick, but it is amazing.

That said at $300 I was not buying it.


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12-26-2012, 03:54 PM
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Interesting that it has basically no kickpoint, just a constant flex. The original composite sticks were like that, then everyone started doing low kick, and then mid kick got big...now companies are starting to put out constant flex sticks again.

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12-30-2012, 08:20 AM
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my AK27 shafts are like that...
just a lightweight carbon graphite shaft with good durability, feel and no kickpoint

amost like having a lightweight wooden stick

the RBZ is an intresting stick... I tried my buddy's Hossa, and either it was the blade or curve cause I couldn't catch reasonably hard pass for the life off me...

the energy transfer is impressive, but I don't think its any better than any top end offering from a bauer or easton

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Once my Combat 52 Coffey breaks I'm gonna give the Landeskog CCM/TM a try. Haven't had luck with CCM's in the past but it's getting harder and harder to find the curve I like.

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I really, really wanted to like the AK27 shaft but it was way too light and everything felt like a battle axe. I spent about $100 on different blades to try and balance it out, nothing worked.

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I saw an RBZ ad on the jumbotron at the Toronto Marlies game yesterday. They're definitely pushing this stick and the brand hard.

So far, I think we've sold more RBZ senior sticks than NXGs and 20Ks combined.

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Wow. Have you tried it yet? I played around with one in the store and there wasn't much wow factor to it, also didn't seem to have much whip or pop to it.

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Very unremarkable, wasn't impressed. I actually liked the 20K better. You're right in that it feels stiffer.

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probably wont even try it. I tried the CCM RBZ which has a taylormade blade, and I find the puck tends to bounce off it when catching passes. also.. I wonder if the no foam concept will lead to more stick breaking...

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So far so good on the durability front is my impression. I wouldn't imagine that foam does anything for durability anyhow haha.

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