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Your Thoughts on Eugene Melnyk?

View Poll Results: How do you feel about Eugene Melnyk?
Eug can do whatever he wants, he's the man! 70 76.92%
Wish he'd tone it down a bit. 6 6.59%
Wish he was an invisble owner, let the Players and Coach do the talking. 5 5.49%
I want MORE Melnyk, can't get enough. 10 10.99%
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03-27-2012, 06:22 PM
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If I remember right... the story goes...
Part of why Muckler was fired - was basically Murray was going to move on elsewhere if he wasn't moved into the GM spot that year. He'd been waiting in the wings, and it was the time to do it.

But Muckler definitely left the cupboard bare, and it was starting to become obvious we had nothing coming up through the system. Murray's had his hits and misses, but overall he's definitely put us in a better spot long term than we were when he started.

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Then you really missed what Muckler did to the franchise, the list is too long to go through it all again.

However this is justification enough, Muckler was the man that advised Bryden that Redden was the defenceman the Sens needed, not Chara.


Pure fabrication. Chara chose to leave. Muckler wanted to keep him.

Muckler was nowhere nearly as bad as he is now perceived and Murray is nowhere nearly as clever as many seem to think. Marshall Johnston is the finest GM in franchise history. And Melnyk?......corpulent capitalist crocodile with only a rudimentary understanding of the game of hockey.


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Pure fabrication. Chara chose to leave. Muckler wanted to keep him.

Muckler was nowhere nearly as bad as he is now perceived and Murray is nowhere nearly as clever as many seem to think. Marshall Johnston is the finest GM in franchise history. And Melnyk?......corpulent capitalist crocodile with only a rudimentary understanding of the game of hockey.
I don't agree with any of this.

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Then you really missed what Muckler did to the franchise, the list is too long to go through it all again.

However this is justification enough, Muckler was the man that advised Bryden that Redden was the defenceman the Sens needed, not Chara.
When we let Chara walk, there was absolutely nothing to indicate that Redden was on the verge of rapid decline. Both players were coming off career years. Redden was seen as the 'prototypical' defenceman for the post-lockout NHL, a guy who could move the puck and was a good skater. Redden was also more established in the community and was easier to negotiate to a contract.

In hindsight, it's obvious that Chara was the right choice. At the time, there was intense debate over who to keep.

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Pure fabrication. Chara chose to leave. Muckler wanted to keep him.

Muckler was nowhere nearly as bad as he is now perceived and Murray is nowhere nearly as clever as many seem to think. Marshall Johnston is the finest GM in franchise history. And Melnyk?......corpulent capitalist crocodile with only a rudimentary understanding of the game of hockey.
Sorry but you are definitely mistaken about Muckler.

Bryden didn't have the money for both Redden and Chara, fact. Mucks wanted Redden, you can try to rewrite history all you want, but it won't change what happened.

Muckler's handling of Hossa left him sucking the hind teat when it came to Chara, and he knew it, so he cast his lot with Redden.

Mucks top draft picks were terrible, he traded away prospects like a drunken sailor, then threw the assets he got using the prospects as throw-ins in subsequent trades, or didn't offer them contracts.

Mucks also gave away Havlat for scraps. None of this is revisionist, just fact.

One thing I do agree with, Johnston and his management team did a fine job for the Sens, Muckler took it apart.


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When we let Chara walk, there was absolutely nothing to indicate that Redden was on the verge of rapid decline. Both players were coming off career years. Redden was seen as the 'prototypical' defenceman for the post-lockout NHL, a guy who could move the puck and was a good skater. Redden was also more established in the community and was easier to negotiate to a contract.

In hindsight, it's obvious that Chara was the right choice. At the time, there was intense debate over who to keep.
The debate was all done by the fan base, it was never a debate within the Sens management, because Muckler had already let the Chara ship sail.

Muckler's chance of signing Chara ended when he signed and traded Hossa.

So the truth is the Sens didn't let Chara walk, he walked on his own volition. Chara wasn't going to play for a team managed by Muckler.

On topic, Melnyk is a smart owner, passionate about hockey and the City of Ottawa. He is entitled to develop his team with the management of his choice, in the manner that makes the most sense to him.

IMO Melnyk has done a good job overall, yes there has been mistakes, but the only way a person doesn't make mistakes is by not engaging in the first place.


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