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03-20-2012, 04:06 PM
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Sliding to #30 was Adirondack, so you'll all be happy to know they're likely to fall out after next week, meaning the numbers from the outdoor game won't keep them artificially in the HMHL (High Minors Hockey League).
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I thought HMHL meant Hans Minors Hockey League!!
Some people have thought Hans was high when he was doing these threads, so you could be closer to right than you think.

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Adirondack has finally slid back out, as I predicted. Somewhat surprisingly, Hamilton also slid out this week, replaced by a resurgent ECHL Florida team (and AHL Norfolk also bounced back in as well).

Anyone wanna try an alignment?

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03-28-2012, 09:26 AM
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kinda messy but i'll give it a shot:

Northeast
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Bridgeport
Manchester
Portland
Providence
St John's

Atlantic
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Charlotte
Hershey
Norfolk
Syracuse
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton

Great Lakes
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Fort Wayne
Lake Erie
Rochester
Toledo
Toronto

Central
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Chicago
Grand Rapids
Milwaukee
Missouri
Peoria

Southern
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Florida
Houston
Gwinnett
San Antonio
Texas

Western
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Bakersfield
Colorado
Ontario
Stockton
Wichita

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03-28-2012, 12:12 PM
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Thanks, eggy -- I've seen worse... hell, I've DONE worse in my proposals

I haven't taken a look at the maps -- might a four-division 7/8/7/8 fit any better to the theoretical geography?

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Given that schedules aren't balanced anyway, let's just scrap conferences and divisions and, for playoff purposes, the top 16 teams make the playoffs (1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc).

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Thanks, eggy -- I've seen worse... hell, I've DONE worse in my proposals

I haven't taken a look at the maps -- might a four-division 7/8/7/8 fit any better to the theoretical geography?
I took a run at it - it got ugly quick.

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Uneven conferences (16-14, West), and it ain't the prettiest thing out there, but.....


West: Bakersfield, Colorado, Houston, Ontario, San Antonio, Stockton, Texas, Wichita.

Central - Chicago, Fort Wayne, Grand rapids, Lake Erie, Milwaukee, Missouri, Peoria, Toledo

Atlantic - Bridgeport, Charlotte, Florida, Gwinnett, Hershey, Norfolk, Wilkes-Barre / Scranton

North - Manchester, Portland, Providence, Rochester, St. John's, Syracuse, Toronto.

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What is the current list/ranking?

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What is the current list/ranking?
# Team Average
1 AHL Hershey 9,925.2
2 CHL Fort Wayne 7,770.0
3 AHL Providence 7,716.5
4 AHL Lake Erie 7,630.1
5 AHL Chicago 7,591.6
6 AHL Houston 7,214.4
7 AHL Grand Rapids 7,100.7
8 AHL San Antonio 7,007.0
9 AHL Charlotte 6,727.4
10 AHL St. John's 6,298.6
11 CHL Wichita 6,249.5
12 ECHL Toledo 6,193.7
13 AHL Milwaukee 6,168.0
14 ECHL Ontario 6,156.1
15 ECHL Stockton 5,916.3
16 AHL Wilkes-Barre/Scranton 5,839.1
17 AHL Manchester 5,592.0
18 CHL Missouri 5,531.3
19 AHL Toronto 5,441.4
20 AHL Rochester 5,435.0
21 AHL Texas 5,408.9
22 AHL Peoria 5,356.5
23 ECHL Colorado 5,289.0
24 AHL Syracuse 5,236.1
25 AHL Portland 5,224.8
26 ECHL Gwinnett 5,160.9
27 AHL Bridgeport 4,978.5
28 AHL Norfolk 4,970.3
29 ECHL Bakersfield 4,902.9
30 ECHL Florida 4,900.0

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It is good to see 5 former IHL cities in the top 10.

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03-28-2012, 06:26 PM
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It is good to see 5 former IHL cities in the top 10.
Six, if you count both LEM and Ft. Wayne.

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Six, if you count both LEM and Ft. Wayne.
I did count them both. I guess you also counted San Antonio though I did not since they were not in the I for very long.

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I'm not a big fan of divisions anyway, just have 2 conferences of 15 teams, east and west, play everyone in your conference 4 times, play everyone in the other once, and you have 9 games (80 game schedule right?) left over for rivalry/promotional games .. top 8 in each conference make playoffs, no silly business of promoting division winners to the top 3

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A couple of teams moved within the top 30 over the past week, but no new teams joined the top 30, or fell out of it. From this point forward, only AHL team attendances will be changing, as all other minor pro leagues have completed play.

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I'm not a big fan of divisions anyway, just have 2 conferences of 15 teams, east and west, play everyone in your conference 4 times, play everyone in the other once, and you have 9 games (80 game schedule right?) left over for rivalry/promotional games .. top 8 in each conference make playoffs, no silly business of promoting division winners to the top 3

76 game schedule to eliminate 4 in 5 but added more 3 in 3 and 5 in 7.

It wouldn't be so bad but they put a road game between 2 home games or some BS like that all the time.

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76 game schedule to eliminate 4 in 5 but added more 3 in 3 and 5 in 7.

It wouldn't be so bad but they put a road game between 2 home games or some BS like that all the time.
Weekends are where the money is, for the most part, so that'll never change. Hershey plays about the usual amount of 3-in-3's, and I counted one 5-in-7. Your Wolves seemed to have no 5-in-7's, and only a handful of 3-in-3's. Overall, I don't think the numbers are that skewed. Seemed like a few more mid-week games thrown into the mix to work around the 4-in-5's, which the owners & NHL poobahs wanted (and got) out.

I actually look for those absurd travel weekends. They're entertaining, as long as you're not trying to get to all the games.

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Final numbers

OK, I'm a little late, but here's the final makeup of the 2011-12 "Top 30 League" or whatever you want to call it.

In the last week, Bridgeport actually _lost_ attendance, enough to actually slip out of the Top 30, letting CHL Evansville slide into the back door. With all the other changes, it just got too hard for me to come up with any kind of logical 6-division alignment, so I went back to a four-division alignment -- it's not perfect, of course, but there it is. Oh, and yes, the division names might need some work.

Interestingly enough, the cutoff for the Top 30 was more than 200 fans a game higher this season than it was at the end of 2010-11.

NATIONAL CONFERENCE (15 teams)
Northern Division (7)
#4 Providence (AHL) - 7,816.8
#11 St. John's (AHL) - 6,297.3
#17 Manchester (AHL) - 5,700.6
#18 Rochester (AHL) - 5,594.9
#20 Toronto (AHL) - 5,479.6
#24 Syracuse (AHL) - 5,246.2
#26 Portland (AHL) - 5,157.8

Southern(?) Division (8)
#1 Hershey (AHL) - 9,872.3
#3 Lake Erie (AHL) - 7,844.6
#9 Charlotte (AHL) - 6,768.1
#12 Toledo (ECHL) - 6,251.7
#15 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (AHL) - 6,027.7
#25 Gwinnett (ECHL) - 5,160.9
#27 Norfolk (AHL) - 5,119
#28 Florida (ECHL) - 5,003.9

AMERICAN CONFERENCE (15 teams)
Central Division (8)
#2 Chicago (AHL) - 7,909.2
#5 Fort Wayne (CHL) - 7,770.0
#7 Grand Rapids (AHL) - 7,253.5
#13 Wichita (CHL) - 6,249.5
#14 Milwaukee (AHL) - 6,225.8
#19 Missouri (CHL) - 5,531.3
#22 Peoria (AHL) - 5,413.8
#30 Evansville (CHL) - 4,882.5


Western Division (7)
#6 Houston (AHL) - 7,323.7
#8 San Antonio (AHL) - 7,133.8
#10 Ontario (ECHL) - 6,309.0
#16 Stockton (ECHL) - 5,916.3
#21 Texas (AHL) - 5,469.9
#23 Colorado (ECHL) - 5,289.0
#29 Bakersfield (ECHL) - 4,962.8

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