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03-28-2012, 10:06 AM
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Pre All-Star: 31-12-04. 94 possible points, 66 points won. = 0.702 points %.
Full season record: 54-21-7 = 115 points

Post All-Star: 17-09-03. 58 possible points. 37 points won. = 0.638 points %
Full season record: 48-25-8 (you can add one to either the 25 or the 8 for rounding) = 104 points. Rangers currently have have 103 points and 48 wins.

At this current pace for a full season, Rangers would probably finish around 4 or 5 at worst.

If the Rangers win out, they can still hit 115 points.

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03-28-2012, 10:12 AM
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I'm a little concerned heading into the playoffs, especially if they face a hot team like Buffalo, but realistically this is a good team that should be able to pull it together in a 7 games series against a lower seed'
Buffalo was rolling at the same pace last year. They came out of nowhere to finish 7th in the east. They lost in 6 games to Philly.

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03-28-2012, 10:25 AM
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I honestly believe that most teams will have a real hard time beating us 4 times.

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03-28-2012, 10:27 AM
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If you look at sections of their record it looks pretty good, but look at the overall average gives me cause for concern, and the fact that they are getting a bit sloppy sure doesn't help me sleep at night.

These next six games will be Brutal. If the Rangers can finish out the season with some good wins I'll feel a bit better.

Jets, Canadians, Bruins, Flyers, Penguins, Caps
Overall average is best record in the East. How is that concerning?

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03-28-2012, 10:37 AM
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A little perspective:

Tom Renney career winning % as a NYR coach .511
Emile Francis' career winning % as a NYR coach .602
New York Rangers highest winning % ever for a season? .699 (70-71, 71-72)

Rangers winning % so far this year? .678

A few more wins and this will be, by percentage, the best NYR team in history.
I don't have any fresh numbers, but last I heard 14 % more pts are handed out due to the three point games. In other words, 110 pts in <2005 are like 125 pts today.

You can't compare 71' and 94' number to numbers of today without adjusting them pretty heavily.


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03-28-2012, 10:58 AM
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Buffalo was rolling at the same pace last year. They came out of nowhere to finish 7th in the east. They lost in 6 games to Philly.
Yup, even being kind of nervous about it, that's my feeling overall. In a 7 game series I think the Rangers are the better team.

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03-28-2012, 11:22 AM
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Not wanting buffalo . Miller has found his game and POMI and Stafford have as well . Very dangerous team we could never beat when we had too .
Buff in 5

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03-28-2012, 12:28 PM
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I don't have any fresh numbers, but last I heard 14 % more pts are handed out due to the three point games. In other words, 110 pts in <2005 are like 125 pts today.

You can't compare 71' and 94' number to numbers of today without adjusting them pretty heavily.
I don't think this is completely correct. If 14% more points are handed out, each team only has a chance at getting their hands on half of those (only one point can be gained by each team). 7% is more likely the adjustment...110 points before 2005 would actually adjust to 117-118 points today....This is of course counting all other things equally (teams play more aggressively in OT, so bad OT teams will lose more points over a season than those playing conservatively when ties existed and good OT teams will gain more points)

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03-28-2012, 02:23 PM
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Not wanting buffalo . Miller has found his game and POMI and Stafford have as well . Very dangerous team we could never beat when we had too .
Buff in 5
I remember when we had an strong run down the stretch as well. Numerous threads popped up saying that the NYR were a popular Dark Horse pick. We lost in 5. Buffalo is a strong team but I highly doubt they beat us over 7.

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03-28-2012, 02:27 PM
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I'm more worried about the fact that our defense hasn't showed up consistently since before the Bruin's game in the middle of February.

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03-28-2012, 02:40 PM
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I'm more worried about the fact that our defense hasn't showed up consistently since before the Bruin's game in the middle of February.
I share the same sentiment. These next six games should be a good indicator where the D is at performance wise.

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03-28-2012, 02:56 PM
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Nope.

One thing has been consistent all year: When the Rangers really need a win, they get it.

When that does not happen you may have cause for concern.

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03-28-2012, 03:54 PM
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A little perspective:

Tom Renney career winning % as a NYR coach .511
Emile Francis' career winning % as a NYR coach .602
New York Rangers highest winning % ever for a season? .699 (70-71, 71-72)

Rangers winning % so far this year? .678

A few more wins and this will be, by percentage, the best NYR team in history.
With a longer schedule, too.

Though, I wouldn't say this is the best Rangers team ever, I think the Rangers during the years between 28 and 33 were the best in franchise history, with 40, 50, 72, 92, 94 right there, too.

Though, right now we have the best goaltender in franchise history in his prime, and probably the most depth as far as homegrown/young talent the Rangers have ever had.

Things are looking bright.

I just REALLY hope this isn't a 1970's situation where the team is good enough to win multiple Cups is reality, but the teams around them are also peaking at the same time. Penguins, Bruins, Flyers will be a perennial pain in the ass.

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03-28-2012, 03:58 PM
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The PK lapses yesterday were an aberration. I'm feeling good about our secondary scoring too. We should do well in the playoffs until Gabby or Richards stink.

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03-28-2012, 04:01 PM
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I don't have any fresh numbers, but last I heard 14 % more pts are handed out due to the three point games. In other words, 110 pts in <2005 are like 125 pts today.

You can't compare 71' and 94' number to numbers of today without adjusting them pretty heavily.
True. Adjust to eliminate SO wins and SO loses.

Anything past OT would have been a tie.

We only have 7 OT/SO loses this season. Which is very good. Only 5 teams have less than that, but we have considerably more ROW than they do.

Its just the nature of the era. I think every era had strengths and weaknesses.

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03-28-2012, 04:02 PM
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I remember when we had an strong run down the stretch as well. Numerous threads popped up saying that the NYR were a popular Dark Horse pick. We lost in 5. Buffalo is a strong team but I highly doubt they beat us over 7.
We lost in 6 that year. Game 5 was the infamous Drury tying goal. Then we lost at home in Game 6.

But yeah, I really don't want to play Buffalo. I'm hoping they climb the standings to #7. Give me Ottawa instead.

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03-28-2012, 04:08 PM
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Many teams play do-or-die hockey down the stretch and are burned out for the playoffs... Just sayin.

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A little perspective:

Tom Renney career winning % as a NYR coach .511
Emile Francis' career winning % as a NYR coach .602
New York Rangers highest winning % ever for a season? .699 (70-71, 71-72)

Rangers winning % so far this year? .678

A few more wins and this will be, by percentage, the best NYR team in history.

to go a little off topic, I don't see how you can compare win percentage in an era where there are no overtime losses or ties. is there a known formula to adjust for that? Would love to know because was trying to compare this season and the 93-94 season.

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03-28-2012, 05:55 PM
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to go a little off topic, I don't see how you can compare win percentage in an era where there are no overtime losses or ties. is there a known formula to adjust for that? Would love to know because was trying to compare this season and the 93-94 season.
sorry, didn't see the discussion above

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03-28-2012, 06:31 PM
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We lost in 6 that year. Game 5 was the infamous Drury tying goal. Then we lost at home in Game 6.

But yeah, I really don't want to play Buffalo. I'm hoping they climb the standings to #7. Give me Ottawa instead.
I was referring to last year.

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03-28-2012, 06:48 PM
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to go a little off topic, I don't see how you can compare win percentage in an era where there are no overtime losses or ties. is there a known formula to adjust for that? Would love to know because was trying to compare this season and the 93-94 season.
I don't think you really can. I think teams play(ed) differently depending on the points available. I think teams played to deliberately tie years ago to get a single point or HAD to play to win towards the end of the season because they needed more than a point. The same team now can deliberately play to tie because their team is better in a skills competition.

I don't even know how you can singularly evaluate wins, OTW, and SOW comparing to pre-lockout.

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Buffalo was rolling at the same pace last year. They came out of nowhere to finish 7th in the east. They lost in 6 games to Philly.
They won in 7 and were up 3-2 in the series at one point.

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The game they played tonight made me wonder if someone on the team had read this thread.

That sure looked like a team that knows what it takes to win in the POs...

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03-28-2012, 11:22 PM
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At the Allstar break, all we had to do was play .500 hockey to guarantee a playoff spot. Now we are right there in position to win a title, and people are worried? That's crazy.

But since we are in this position it would be mighty helpful if we finish ahead of Pitt.
You never know what might happen in the playoffs., We could get knock out in the first round. Hell, Pitt could get an early exit, too. But if the top teams play as expected, we will need home ice against the Pens. Our playoff run has started already, and the NYR's know this. The divsion title will be crucial if we have to face the Pens later on and have any chance of a conference championship.

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03-28-2012, 11:33 PM
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The one area that was really hurting them is the PP 29? cmon. Moving Richards away from the points has seemed from tonights game to really improve the PP. Del Zotto and Stepan keep it simple make the right pass and the three forwards work better down low. I like how the PP looked tonight and that is we all know key if were going to have success.

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