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03-28-2012, 06:21 PM
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If O'Reilly and Duchene both get big contracts this off season, I'd say O'Reilly in the 3.5-4 millions range and Duchene in the 4.5-5 millions range. Can we realistically keep all 3 of them and have almost 15 millions locked up in 3 centres?
Yes we can, but theirs no way O'Reilly and Duchene both get over $3 million right now.

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03-28-2012, 06:24 PM
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How the hell can Pittsburgh afford to keep both Crosby and Malkin (2 best players in the world right now) and not to mention Letang, Staal and MAF, and the Avs can't keep O'Reilly, Duchene and Stastny?

I don't see why Avs can't keep this guys if the Pens can keep those players i mentioned. I mean Malkin or Crosby just one of this players is better than O'Reilly, Duchene, Stastny combined.
Not to mention James Neal, Chris Kunitz, and the overpaid defenseman tandem of Paul Martin and Zbynek Michalek.

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03-28-2012, 07:06 PM
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Of course. No doubt about it.

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My question is will McClement resign knowing he's gonna play a 4th line role.

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My question is will McClement resign knowing he's gonna play a 4th line role.
I hope he does, he's been great in his role

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My question is will McClement resign knowing he's gonna play a 4th line role.
He's averaged close to 14 minutes a game this year. His role is closer to that of a third line center.

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03-28-2012, 08:10 PM
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He's averaged close to 14 minutes a game this year. His role is closer to that of a third line center.
Yes, but because Duchene has spent a large portion of the year on the wing or hurt. Assuming were planning on him being a center next year, McClement minutes will surely be reduced.

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03-28-2012, 08:13 PM
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My question is will McClement resign knowing he's gonna play a 4th line role.
Yeah, I definitely hope he wants to resign.

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Yes, but because Duchene has spent a large portion of the year on the wing or hurt. Assuming were planning on him being a center next year, McClement minutes will surely be reduced.
I the only one that's not a big fan of spreading the talent over 3 lines? I hate the idea of having downie on the first line. I'd like to swap duchene in for that role. Course this means he plays wing, which is against most of the HF COL fans wishes but i seriously think that with the body presence of landy and o'reilly, duchene will get more room. Only problem, 3 left handers... maybe landy on the off wing since he shoots so much...

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I the only one that's not a big fan of spreading the talent over 3 lines? I hate the idea of having downie on the first line. I'd like to swap duchene in for that role. Course this means he plays wing, which is against most of the HF COL fans wishes but i seriously think that with the body presence of landy and o'reilly, duchene will get more room. Only problem, 3 left handers... maybe landy on the off wing since he shoots so much...
Downie's perfect for that line right now. He makes all the little plays, gets them the puck, and has underrated offensive ability. Obviously you don't mess with what's working, but eventually I could see Downie on Duchene's wing.

Also just wanted to say that I want McClement to sign, I was just throwing that out there.

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Luckily we have Sacco so Duchene plays the wing!
This is actually possible. And might even become necessary if Sgarbossa And Hishon pan out. Part of the problem is you'd have to get Duchene to buy in to playing on the wing instead of forcing him to do it. I actually think he might work with Lando and ROR. But that's for another thread...

They can afford to keep all three and they should keep all three. I have no issue rolling with three scoring lines. Especially when Stastny and ROR can easily play a more grinding role if the situation calls for it. But as has been said, they have to massively upgrade at least one wing position. This is why you have to keep Stastny and Johnson. Those two (USA buddies) plus Sakic could help convince Parise to come here. Well that and Mr. Kroenkes checkbook.

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really? duchene stastny and o'reilly.....three best centers on a fringe playoff team and we're stressing how we're going to keep them?

they're good, but obviously not THAT good.

If Stastny wanted more money than he's already making, it would probably even be in the Avs interest to let him go anyways....

just because they put on an Avs sweater doesn't make them hockey gods and sure fire prospects. I believe more in O'Reilly maybe than the other 2 combined.

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03-28-2012, 09:36 PM
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really? duchene stastny and o'reilly.....three best centers on a fringe playoff team and we're stressing how we're going to keep them?

they're good, but obviously not THAT good.

If Stastny wanted more money than he's already making, it would probably even be in the Avs interest to let him go anyways....

just because they put on an Avs sweater doesn't make them hockey gods and sure fire prospects. I believe more in O'Reilly maybe than the other 2 combined.
2 of those 3 guys just turned 21. Stastny had a bad first half but looks like his old self since the new year.

Centers are the least of our problem.

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03-28-2012, 10:19 PM
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Who knows what the new CBA will bring but it shouldn't be a problem for us to hold onto our big ticket guys like Radar, Staz, Dutchy, EJ, Lando, Varly and a good chunk of our surrounding pieces. Hell we might even lock up dutchy to a sweet long term deal and even have plenty of room to go buck wild for a guy like Suter, Semin or Parise.

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03-28-2012, 10:48 PM
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Should be able to offer $3 M+ to the two of them plus keep Stastny plus sign re-sign them when the time comes along with Landeskog + have enough cap space to sign two big money FAs if they're willing to spend it.

Besides, the cap will be $100 M by then.


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03-28-2012, 10:52 PM
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really? duchene stastny and o'reilly.....three best centers on a fringe playoff team and we're stressing how we're going to keep them?

they're good, but obviously not THAT good.

If Stastny wanted more money than he's already making, it would probably even be in the Avs interest to let him go anyways....

just because they put on an Avs sweater doesn't make them hockey gods and sure fire prospects. I believe more in O'Reilly maybe than the other 2 combined.
I dunno if I agree with your final sentence. I love me some Radar and the kid has the drive and intelligence to just keep improving, but Staz isn't exactly a tarded slacker, the kid's a great passer, both his vision and hands are just excellent at it, he's become a great faceoff man makes his fair share of great defensive plays. Personally I think both will be very similar caliber players with Staz being a bit better of a playmaker and Radar being a bit better of a defender, I just don't see all that much separating the two.

Dutchy is a Wildcard, if he can just simplify his game, go back to things that actually work for him and build his game back up, he can still learn to be an absolutely phenomenal player. That is a big IF however.

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Yupp, yep we can. Pittsburgh has like 17 million locked up in two centers. If Stastny keeps on keeping on how he's going, he'll probably take a $4 million or so contract next one he gets. O'Reilly will get about 4, Duchene deserves about 3 (but will probably get 4). It's very realistic to keep all three of them in my opinion.

But I wouldn't expect us to, to be honest. I see Stastny leaving when his contract ends unless he picks it up. If not through a trade than by his choice - he'll believe it's the system that's bringing him down.

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03-29-2012, 01:59 AM
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Duchene has not shown enough this season to get a long-term big money contract. IMO, if he gets big money it will be for a short term, while if he signs long term it'll be at a team friendly price.
No way does he get big money or big term next contract. Unless your version of big money or big term is a lot more tame than mine is.

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I really wonder what Duchene will ask for after this year? Even he has to admit he has been off and often injured.

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This is actually possible. And might even become necessary if Sgarbossa And Hishon pan out. Part of the problem is you'd have to get Duchene to buy in to playing on the wing instead of forcing him to do it. I actually think he might work with Lando and ROR. But that's for another thread...
Hishon hasn't played in 10 months. Even in theory, I really wouldn't count on him being part of the Avs going forward.

I wonder if Sgarbossa would be called up sometime next year.

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Hishon hasn't played in 10 months. Even in theory, I really wouldn't count on him being part of the Avs going forward.

I wonder if Sgarbossa would be called up sometime next year.
I would bet on it. What other forward would? Seems as though Olver will be a mainstay now. Any offensive player goes down we're kind of screwed.

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Kind of have Apathy now. If we lose them, meh, what's it going to hurt. If we were contenders week in, week out, it would be different, but obviously these guys just don't work well together.

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03-29-2012, 08:50 AM
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Yes, though I'll be quite surprised if we retain Stastny past the expiration of his current deal.

The better question would be whether we can realistically keep Stazz, ROR, Dutch, AND McClement.

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