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03-27-2012, 08:51 AM
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Interesting take on the story here.



http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...eid=1061119813
Amonte and Weight were signed after the sophomore years as 20 year olds. Amonte was drafted in 1988 and Weight in 1990. The Rangers were extremely desperate when they signed them -- they went from the best team in the Wales conference with balanced scoring to a massive losing skid and couldnt score. Weight was a older draftee -- 19.5 at the time of his selection coming off his frosh year at Lake State

I dont know what the terms were back then, but college and US Olympic players routinely joined their NHL teams after the NCAA/Olympic season was done.

Nowadays, not so much. Besides, I dont see the Rangers being as desperate as the 1991 team. I think it's 75/25 that Kreider plays in the NHL this season

Amonte, "White" and Rice were the only things positive about that miserable postseason. They were signed and available for Game 1 of the Caps series but Nielsen didnt dress them. It wasnt until a crucial Game 5 when Nielsen dressed Amonte and Rice in a OT loss (thanks Hardy)....Weight was dressed for the elimination Game 6


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From Buccigross' column today:

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Big-time fan of the vlogs and blognums, your morning tweets and stats, and of course the overtime challenge. But my question to you: Which player currently in the Frozen Four do you think has the best NHL potential and why?

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Chris Kreider is the most complete player I have seen in terms of NHL-ready skill. He has good size (6-foot-3, 225 pounds), is a very good skater and shoots quickly and powerfully, like a man. Plus, he turns only 21 on April 30. Of course, other things make a hockey player like the Boston College junior. How fast will he figure out the NHL game? How confrontational will he be and how much sandpaper will he have? Will he dedicate himself to the game with fervor and passion like a Steven Stamkos does? Only time will tell on those factors. Also, defensemen are hard to forecast. They have either reached their peak, can't adjust to the faster/bigger players of the NHL or they keep getting better.

It's also hard to judge a player in college because they don't play with players who match their talent, thus either not making the player as good as he can be or the player gets a little bored. Put Chris Kreider with Brad Richards and he might score 25-30 next season.

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03-27-2012, 07:27 PM
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From Buccigross' column today:
Also, defensemen are hard to forecast.

Since when does CK play D?

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03-27-2012, 07:29 PM
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Also, defensemen are hard to forecast.

Since when does CK play D?
I think it was a point that adds to why Kreider is the most NHL-ready player. He isn't a defenseman, where as there may be a defenseman who is better than Kreider, but due to how hard it is to forecast a defenseman, Kreider is the most NHL-ready.

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03-27-2012, 07:35 PM
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I think it was a point that adds to why Kreider is the most NHL-ready player. He isn't a defenseman, where as there may be a defenseman who is better than Kreider, but due to how hard it is to forecast a defenseman, Kreider is the most NHL-ready.
Ah, that makes more sense. Was having a hard time following that.

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03-27-2012, 07:45 PM
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Ah, that makes more sense. Was having a hard time following that.
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I think it was a point that adds to why Kreider is the most NHL-ready player. He isn't a defenseman, where as there may be a defenseman who is better than Kreider, but due to how hard it is to forecast a defenseman, Kreider is the most NHL-ready.
Like Schultz for example.

All the talent in the world. But it may be a difficult transition.

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Its easier for a winger to make the transition than any other position, because of the nature of the position, least amount of responsibility on the ice.

For defensemen its the hardest transition.

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03-29-2012, 07:35 AM
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Seven more days until the Frozen 4

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Meet an opponent: Chris Kreider is BC's power forward on the second line. He is tied for the team lead in goals with 22 and has a team-high 43 points.

Kreider is a 6-3, 225-pound junior who is expected to sign with the New York Rangers once the college season is over. The Rangers drafted him in the first round, 19th overall, in 2009.

Kreider, who turns 21 on April 30, had only one goal in 10 games until he scored twice in BC's 2-0 victory over Air Force in the Northeast Regional. He was a second team all-Hockey East pick. He has played in big games, competing for the U.S. in the World Junior Championships in 2010 and '11.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/144766865.html

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As for the big hit he took Sunday, Kreider said, “I tried to get around him and he got kind of low. I was worried about getting hit in my knees so I kind of jumped in the air and he caught me. I was lucky enough that I kind of rolled on my shoulder and didn’t get hurt.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/c...&position=also

BC plays the late game next Thursday.

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03-29-2012, 03:52 PM
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Chris Kreider will have a chat on NESN.com. Tuesday at 1pm. They had Jerry York today.

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Moderator: Jerry had to run as he needs to go prepare his Eagles for yet another hockey title. We will have junior forward Chris Kreider (Boxford, MA native) in next Tuesday at 1 p.m. to chat live, so be sure you're back on NESN.com then to chat with the team's top sniper!
http://www.nesn.com/2012/03/chat-liv...t-noon-et.html

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03-29-2012, 03:56 PM
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BC plays the late game next Thursday.

Anywhere I can watch it?

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03-29-2012, 04:00 PM
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Anywhere I can watch it?
The BC-Minnesota game will be on ESPN2 at 8pm. The Union-Ferris State game is on ESPNU at 4:30pm.

ESPN2 has the final on Saturday at 7pm.

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Chris Kreider will have a chat on NESN.com. Tuesday at 1pm. They had Jerry York today.



http://www.nesn.com/2012/03/chat-liv...t-noon-et.html
I've never done a live chat so can a fan submit questions or does the interviewee just answer questions asked by the interviewer.

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I've never done a live chat so can a fan submit questions or does the interviewee just answer questions asked by the interviewer.
Usually people submit questions and the moderation chooses which ones to ask.

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Also, defensemen are hard to forecast.

Since when does CK play D?
Buccigross is a moron.

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Craig Custance spoke to Chris Kreider

If BC loses Thursday,Kreider could play next Saturday against the Caps

He took 3 tests this week and turned in half of a 20 page paper for a class

The Rangers spoke to Kreider about the Nash rumors

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When the deadline passed, he heard from the Rangers, who gave him a quick summary of the Nash situation, but the reality is that his focus hasn't been on New York, it's been on achieving his college goals. Staying for his junior year in college has more than worked out for Kreider. He's played in more situations this season than at any point in his college career, spending more time getting comfortable on his off-wing and also expanding his role on the BC special teams.

Another year in college gave him an opportunity to fill out physically. The 6-foot-3 forward is playing at 230 pounds right now, after putting on 10 pounds of muscle in the past year.

"You become more of a man over the course of the college career," he said.

Now comes the biggest payoff. He's closing in on a national championship while the Rangers wait patiently to add him to their organization. It could be an incredible couple of weeks for Kreider.

"A big part of my decision was to compete for the national championship," he said. "This is the payoff in a sense."
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BC's spring semester is almost over

BC is closed this Thursday,Friday and next Monday for Easter. Kreider will be Tampa for the Frozen 4 on Thursday.

They have no classes on April 16. Patriots Day.

Last day of the semester is May 3. Finals run May 8-15.

17 class days between April 10-May 3

http://www.bc.edu/offices/stserv/aca.../calendar.html

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Jeez, 6'3" and 230lbs? With that speed? Physically, the kid is an absolute monster.

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Jeez, 6'3" and 230lbs? With that speed? Physically, the kid is an absolute monster.
Yep. The tools are there. One of the big reasons he gets so much hype. But there have been big pacy kids who have failed before, so by no means should we write him into NYR lineup for good just yet.

But man oh man, we have been really lucky with our American, and even more recently our NCAA prospects of late.

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Kreider was lucky he didn't get hurt on this check

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he took three tests and had to turn in half of a 20-page paper in his Communication in the Workplace class.

What the hell class is that? lol

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In the Custance article,the CBA was discussed and how the entry level system will become more restrictive. Losing a year off the ELC is an incentive to turn pro.

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Kreider was lucky he didn't get hurt on this check
Yes, but it was a very heads up play by Kreider. As he stated and you can see, he realizes the player was going really low and Kreider jumped to avoid getting taken out by the knees. Smart move by Kreider.

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Yes, but it was a very heads up play by Kreider. As he stated and you can see, he realizes the player was going really low and Kreider jumped to avoid getting taken out by the knees. Smart move by Kreider.
Yeah, assuming he didn't break his neck while landing on his head...or more likely injuring his arm or shoulder. Either way he's fortunate he didn't get too banged up on the play.

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