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03-30-2012, 07:28 AM
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Barret Jackman would be ideal to place with Markov or subban (depending on which side he could play)

Jason Garrison and Bryan Allen are both great physically and defensively.... Garrison would be expensive and not sure he can repeat a career year.

Parise is obvious on the front end, however 30 teams will be trying to sign this guy. PA Parenteau would be a good addition as well... a local guy who can score some points is always good, and he would most likely come cheap considering his offensive output.

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You know he has 103 points combined this season and last?
You know he is the only Capital to score over 2 ESPTS/60 consistently, including the other Alex? While facing tough competition?

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Game breaking forwards? Zack Parise and Ray Whitney.
Im aware Ray Whitney is having a great season in Phoenix, but at 40, next year, don't think he'll be a game breaker anymore.

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Darche was in the NHL because he is a guy coaches love because he shows up every night, is reliable defensively and can kill penalities, he also scored 12 goals in 59 games with limited ice time last year. He may or may not be back here but he will be in the NHL next year.
only nhl coaches loved him in Montreal right?

I think new gm don't resign ...IMHO.

I doubt he plays fulltime NHL next year to be honest.

GREAT GUY, but like Larry Carriere, more lucky that a horseshoe.

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03-30-2012, 07:30 AM
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If you want a forward from Phoenix get Carey Price's cousin

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Markov helps

Subban, Gorges, and Markov give 3/4 of a top 4

Is Emelin the 4th? Maybe, but sophomore slumps seem to hit dmen frequently

I'd like to add a 20min per game 4/5 defenceman.

Gorges - Subban
Markov - Emelin/UFA
Kaberle - UFA/Emelin
Diaz

A tough defensive partner would help Kaberle a ton as well

Good mix of offence and defence on each of those pairings too
I think Emelin COULD be a #4 guy next year, but it would be too risky to bet on that plus Mrakov staying healthy, so having Emelin as #5 and signing a 20 minute top 4 guy protects you on both sides. I think Diaz showed atr times that he can play 20 minutes and be a solid reliable guy also.

I think if you plan to use 3-4 mil on a top 4 guy, then you have to move Kaberle and keep Diaz at #6 and Weber at #7.

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Artyukhin had 23 pts in 47 games this year in KHL.(16) goals hit on radar screens.
I would invite him to camp , as the Habs have gave up there pansy ways, for tougher meaner guys.
He fits the bill perfect.
I wouldn't give him more than a 1 year, 1 million dollar deal. He probably makes more in Russia so it would be hard to convince him to come over.

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03-30-2012, 07:31 AM
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Savard said Montreal needs guys who want to WIN the cup.....
We need guys who will help us score more goals than the other team.

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How many #5-6 d-men do we need? I think Emelin is a better #5 than O'brien.
Preferably three. Happy if we've got Emelin-O'Brien-Diaz as 5-6-7 and then we have four better defensemen in front of them. Emelin has potential as a top four though.

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I think Emelin COULD be a #4 guy next year, but it would be too risky to bet on that plus Mrakov staying healthy, so having Emelin as #5 and signing a 20 minute top 4 guy protects you on both sides. I think Diaz showed atr times that he can play 20 minutes and be a solid reliable guy also.

I think if you plan to use 3-4 mil on a top 4 guy, then you have to move Kaberle and keep Diaz at #6 and Weber at #7.
The money fits to keep Kaberle if Gomez is gone and you'd still have 4-5 million to spend up front

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03-30-2012, 07:33 AM
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Im aware Ray Whitney is having a great season in Phoenix, but at 40, next year, don't think he'll be a game breaker anymore.
He's never been a gamebreaker. He's been solid offensive contributor who is very good on the PP.

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I wouldn't give him more than a 1 year, 1 million dollar deal. He probably makes more in Russia so it would be hard to convince him to come over.
He will be back...

Look at Jagr, Kovy, Radu ...ETC ETC .

I would sign him no question ,if Blunden can play for Habs so can Artyukhin.
I prefer Artyukhin ,as he's much more unpredictable ,wild enough to man up to Chara.

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03-30-2012, 07:35 AM
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I'd rather not put Emelin on the right side. He's shown that he's alot more comfortable on the left side.

Gorges - Subban
Markov - RH Defensive D (Komisarek )
Emelin - Kaberle/Diaz

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only nhl coaches loved him in Montreal right?

I think new gm don't resign ...IMHO.

I doubt he plays fulltime NHL next year to be honest.

GREAT GUY, but like Larry Carriere, more lucky that a horseshoe.
How is he lucky? He works his butt off and is smart.

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if Blunden can play for Habs so can Artyukhin.
That's not really a great argument if we're aiming for a team that isn't the worst in the conference....

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Barret Jackman would be ideal to place with Markov or subban (depending on which side he could play)

Jason Garrison and Bryan Allen are both great physically and defensively.... Garrison would be expensive and not sure he can repeat a career year.

Parise is obvious on the front end, however 30 teams will be trying to sign this guy. PA Parenteau would be a good addition as well... a local guy who can score some points is always good, and he would most likely come cheap considering his offensive output.
Parenteau won't be a UFA he said he would give NYI a home town discount since they gave him his first real shot, I doubt they let him walk.

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03-30-2012, 07:38 AM
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How is he lucky? He works his butt off and is smart.
i said he's a good guy, but there hundreds of others who do the same in Ahl ...."work butts off"
I'm just being honest, i just can't see a new GM walking into town and dreaming about using him like the old guard did .....

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03-30-2012, 07:41 AM
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That's not really a great argument if we're aiming for a team that isn't the worst in the conference....
Artyukhin train 1

Emelin train 2

You see how the crowd love Emelin hits right?Artyukhin hits harder.

I'm not worrying about extra penalties from Artyukhin, our pk is great.

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Artyukhin had 23 pts in 47 games this year in KHL.(16) goals hit on radar screens.
I would invite him to camp , as the Habs have gave up there pansy ways, for tougher meaner guys.
He fits the bill perfect.
He isn't a guy you win with. He'll lay a few highlight reel hits and score a few goals but overall he brings little value because his screw ups will outweigh his production. Plays for himself and is one to not follow the gameplan...taking bad pemalities and not being reliable defensively. Guys like Moen are miles ahead of him for a bottom 6 spot.

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i said he's a good guy, but there hundreds of others who do the same in Ahl ...."work butts off"
I'm just being honest, i just can't see a new GM walking into town and dreaming about using him like the old guard did .....
If there were they would be in the NHL not the AHL.

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03-30-2012, 07:46 AM
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Semin is nowhere close to as talented as Ray Whitney.
Lol wtf?

Semin is probably in the top 10 most talented players in the league, he has ridiculous hands and one of the best wrist shots in the league. His effort level is why he's not an elite player.

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03-30-2012, 07:49 AM
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He isn't a guy you win with. He'll lay a few highlight reel hits and score a few goals but overall he brings little value because his screw ups will outweigh his production. Plays for himself and is one to not follow the gameplan...taking bad pemalities and not being reliable defensively. Guys like Moen are miles ahead of him for a bottom 6 spot.
Few hits?the guy had 250 in 73 games in Tampa.Who like's getting hit by 6'5 250 pounds?
As i said he had a very good year last year, much more offensive .
I think he found his game , like alot of big men it takes time .
At 28 he's just hitting prime .
Low risk signing.


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I want Jackman and possibly PA Parenteau
At what price? I have a feeling Parenteau will cost too much and that we'll be paying for a career year.

I'd like Jackman or Bryan Allen.

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03-30-2012, 07:51 AM
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Barret Jackman would be ideal to place with Markov or subban (depending on which side he could play)

Jason Garrison and Bryan Allen are both great physically and defensively.... Garrison would be expensive and not sure he can repeat a career year.

Parise is obvious on the front end, however 30 teams will be trying to sign this guy. PA Parenteau would be a good addition as well... a local guy who can score some points is always good, and he would most likely come cheap considering his offensive output.

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We have Markov, Subban, Kaberle, and Diaz.

We need a stay at home D, not a game breaker

Someone Physical

Barrett Jackman

Bryan Allen
Nic Grossmann
Milan Jurcina
Johnny Oduya
Aaron Rome
Shane OBrien

Would be my targets (put them in order too)
Same here; the lack of a gritty, experienced, stay at home D who can eat a lot of even strength minutes was our main problem in 2011-12 imo. The inexperience of our D squad cost us a lot of points... think of our 3rd period woes – a typical trait of a young D squad.

Barret Jackman is on top of my wishes list; I would feel VERY comfortable with Markov, Gorges, Subban, Jackman, Emelin, Kaberle and Saint-Denis/Diaz as the 7th D.

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Maybe I just see the wrong games then because I'd never have classified Wideman as soft.
I meant more mentaly than physicly he looks disinterested at times as well (altough most of the Caps do this year), his positioning in the defensive zone is also a huge downside in his game.

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Penner = Bourque

we don't need anymore of that ..
Bourque >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Penner, I'll leave it at that.

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I wanted O'Brien last summer, still think he'd be a good addition.
Most of the time he doesn't know his limits and his partner needs to clean up the mess after him on almost regular basis, I can't even begin to describe how much he's holding EJ back this season with his bonehead play. He thinks he's Bobby Orr or Savard (he sure loves spinoramas) out there.

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