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03-30-2012, 10:06 PM
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I don't know Pierre Dorion well but isn't he pretty much like Trevor Timmins for the habs? I don't know much about Pierre but I'd figure Timmins has the better resume and is internal no?

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03-30-2012, 10:08 PM
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I don't know Pierre Dorion well but isn't he pretty much like Trevor Timmins for the habs? I don't know much about Pierre but I'd figure Timmins has the better resume and is internal no?
he pretty much is timmins, just a decade ago.

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I don't know Pierre Dorion well but isn't he pretty much like Trevor Timmins for the habs? I don't know much about Pierre but I'd figure Timmins has the better resume and is internal no?
Someone correct me if i'm wrong but Dorion pretty much ran our last 3 or so drafts. Look at our prospects drafted under his eye. Very impressive.

So yea, like Timmins lol

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03-30-2012, 10:15 PM
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he pretty much is timmins, just a decade ago.
So dorion reached timmins stature a decade ago or dorion is equivalent to a timmins from 10 years past? Just wanna be sure what I'm reading.

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Someone correct me if i'm wrong but Dorion pretty much ran our last 3 or so drafts. Look at our prospects drafted under his eye. Very impressive.

So yea, like Timmins lol
Well, that's impression I got. Except, I happen to find Timmins' resume more impressive. Perhaps it's bias, but both these guys were part of both of our teams.

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Pierre Dorion enters his third season with the Senators and his first as director of player personnel, after being promoted to the position on Aug. 26, 2009. Prior to that Dorion spent one season as the Senators’ chief amateur scout after one as an amateur scout.

As director of player personnel, Dorion will be responsible for managing the Senators scouting staff, both professional and amateur. Dorion also oversees all facets of evaluation for players both inside and outside of the organization.

Dorion, 37, joined the Senators in July 2007 after spending the previous two seasons as an amateur scout for the New York Rangers and 11 seasons with the Montreal Canadiens, where he served as an amateur scouting co-ordinator and later chief scout.
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Trevor Timmins enters his 11th season with the Montreal Canadiens. He is primarily responsible for overseeing and directing the Canadiens’ amateur scouting system, including the annual NHL Entry Draft and amateur free-agent recruitment.

In addition, Timmins is responsible for both of the club’s summer development and rookie camps. He also oversees the development of the Canadiens prospects in Hamilton and the club’s amateur prospects. Trevor also supervises the annual NHL combine, as well as the Canadiens’ own combine, a pre-draft player evaluation process.

Timmins starts his 20th season in the NHL. He worked with the Ottawa Senators from 1992 through the 2001-02 season. From 1999 to 2002, he was the team’s Director of Hockey Operations. He was responsible for the Scouting Department, the minor league affiliate, budgeting, and the daily operation of the Hockey Department.

He has also held the positions of Scouting Coordinator, Strength and Conditioning Coach and Director of Team Services with the Senators. Timmins is a graduate of Queen’s University in Physical Education. He also completed a Master of Business Administration (Queen’s) and a Master’s degree in Sports Administration at the University of Ottawa. He was born on January 5, 1968, in Almonte, Ontario.
Not to mention, timmins can also physically intimidate other GMs


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03-30-2012, 10:22 PM
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This is why I love hockey and the NHL. So many layers. You can only excel so much before someone else wants to buy your pudding away from you. I hope Dorian sticks around for obvious reasons...but I wish for him the best...and that looks a lot like a GM position in the greatest sport on earth. I don't want our heir apparent to leave, but then again...can we ask him to wait another year or two to take the big chair? In the meantime, how does Terry (who is 2nd choice for the next GM) just sit there and take it all in? So much drama!

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03-30-2012, 10:57 PM
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Holy cow Timmins is huge11111!!

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If Timmins gets the GM job he should save money and just dress as the teams enforcer himself.

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If Timmins gets the GM job he should save money and just dress as the teams enforcer himself.
lol, I think he'd still get his ass kicked.

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03-30-2012, 11:43 PM
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I would be seriously pissed if he left. I'm being selfish, but I never want to see him get promoted if it means leaving our organization.

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i honestly thought this was a prank thread regarding J.D. from scrubs.

loll but good for him.

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lol, I think he'd still get his ass kicked.
I didn't think i needed the

I know muscles=/=good at fighting. Trust me haha.

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03-31-2012, 01:25 AM
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So dorion reached timmins stature a decade ago or dorion is equivalent to a timmins from 10 years past? Just wanna be sure what I'm reading.
Both? 10 years ago (actually, maybe more, but i'm too lazy to look it up) timmins had graduated from his development (fitness) role to the role dorion performs now in ottawa (director of scouting, though timmins had a slightly different title iirc). The catch, of course, is that dorion was directing the habs scouting back then. Funny how these things work, eh?


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03-31-2012, 02:09 AM
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He'd be a huge loss, but it's not surprising. He'll be a GM in the NHL eventually, and probably not here with T Murr.

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03-31-2012, 05:46 AM
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im not sure details but if timmins was above him in MTL and doing well it could have been from listening to dorian

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03-31-2012, 06:01 AM
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Although it would be a great hiring, would the habs choose another ex-Sens to go to their organization?? Gauthier, Martin, Pearn, Groulx, Timmins, Frank Jay, Cunneyworth....

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03-31-2012, 07:11 AM
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Dorion was actually with the Habs before he was a Sen. He went on record many times to say that passing on Simon Gagne for Eric Chouinard was his idea.

With that said, he's the one to thank for Karlsson pick, he lobbied hard for that pick.

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03-31-2012, 07:13 AM
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Don't get me wrong, that would suck for us, but good on him.

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03-31-2012, 07:26 AM
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I think the whole scouting and drafting MTL staff got fired in 2000 because of the 98 draft (Simon Gagne).

but look at some name they got during that 98 draft:

2 45 Mtl. Canadiens Mike Ribeiro
3 75 Mtl. Canadiens Francois Beauchemin
6 162 Mtl. Canadiens Andrei Markov
8 216 Mtl. Canadiens Michael Ryder

And his father was also a scout with Tor:

"His father, the late Pierre Dorion, Sr., unearthed his share of hidden gems while serving as the Toronto Maple Leafs chief scout. "

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2011/...for-character/


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This is what happens when you have good scouts and personnel... Hopefully he stays but if not the team will need to replace him... Wont be easy

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Ughh, I hope this doesn't happen, go with the Nostalgia idea and pick Roy!

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03-31-2012, 10:37 AM
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What do you think we could get in return if the Habs hired him away from us? Anything at all? A 3rd or 4th round pick?

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What do you think we could get in return if the Habs hired him away from us? Anything at all? A 3rd or 4th round pick?
I don't think you'd get anything tbh.

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So dorion reached timmins stature a decade ago or dorion is equivalent to a timmins from 10 years past? Just wanna be sure what I'm reading.



Well, that's impression I got. Except, I happen to find Timmins' resume more impressive. Perhaps it's bias, but both these guys were part of both of our teams.





Not to mention, timmins can also physically intimidate other GMs

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somehow i'm not sure the habs fans will react that well to another sens retread.
Well, on the one hand, Gauthier was terrible. On the other hand, our head scout, Trevor Timmins is amazing. Its kind of 50/50 right now.

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I don't think you'd get anything tbh.
We got something from the Bruins for Peter Chiarelli. Don't rule it out.

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