HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Pacioretty - no goals in last 10 GP

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-31-2012, 08:37 AM
  #26
Habsoil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Fort mac
Country: Canada
Posts: 393
vCash: 500
I hope he doesnt score again this year, might be able to knock a few bucks off his price tag!

Habsoil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2012, 11:11 AM
  #27
JGRB
#EllerThugLife
 
JGRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,008
vCash: 500
We should probably trade him for a Janne Niinimaa type while his value is still high.

JGRB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2012, 11:21 AM
  #28
InglewoodJack
Registered User
 
InglewoodJack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Châteauguay
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,125
vCash: 500
Guess he wasn't Max Pacioready for the NHL, huh.

InglewoodJack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2012, 12:47 PM
  #29
Fuelled by Passion
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 571
vCash: 500
Good thread that sums up double standards in Montreal
Player A didn't score for 10 games : just a slump, don't worry about it
Player B didn't score for 10 games : demote him to 4-th line, call him under-achiever, bench him, trade him

Fuelled by Passion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2012, 01:30 PM
  #30
DuRoux
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Trois-Rivieres
Country: Canada
Posts: 43
vCash: 500
In MTL scorer should score at a rate of 1goal per game or else they have some problem...

(Goal: 31Cole, 30Pac, 16David) We got one line that have produced in average 1 goal per game, in this year of draught... Not bad I say, add next year a powerplay that can save that can score at least 1 a game (1 in 4 - 1 in 5) And that first line production is nearly doubled..

Oh and all that is not considering assist to defenceman. Add to hit a second line that can produce and we can get those 1 goal game we all missed.

DuRoux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2012, 03:23 PM
  #31
JGRB
#EllerThugLife
 
JGRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,008
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuelled by Passion View Post
Good thread that sums up double standards in Montreal
Player A didn't score for 10 games : just a slump, don't worry about it
Player B didn't score for 10 games : demote him to 4-th line, call him under-achiever, bench him, trade him
Double standards? How so?

Even the best players go through slumps. It's not hard to evaluate Max and see that it is just a slump. He's still going to the right areas, he's still shooting a lot, he's getting chances. He hasn't changed his tendencies. His effort level is still there.

He went through a similar slump right after his suspension and he bounced out of that as well.

There is difference between Pacioretty or Cole (who was cold up during Patches hot streak?) going through a 10-game slump and Gomez or Bourque going through a similar slump.Two totally different scenarios and for good reason. So don't try and stamp it as a double standard when it really isn't.

JGRB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 03:09 PM
  #32
Analyzer
#WeAreBoston
 
Analyzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Renfrew, ON.
Country: Canada
Posts: 43,162
vCash: 500
Trade him he sucks. Doesn't speak French.

Seriously, though. He's helping us... Maybe.

Analyzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 05:32 PM
  #33
theboss*
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,696
vCash: 500
Cant belive he is already a 30-30 player at 23

theboss* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 07:05 PM
  #34
EmelinBOOM74
NHL Managerial Guru
 
EmelinBOOM74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Central Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 231
vCash: 500
His "slump" started at the same time it became apparrent that the Habs were not going to make the playoffs. He was candid about the fact that playing out the last few games without playoff aspirations is tough. He's still a young player, nothing at all to worry about.

EmelinBOOM74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 07:23 PM
  #35
Patrice Brisebois
Registered User
 
Patrice Brisebois's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Toronto/Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 551
vCash: 500
Meh, it's a slump. The exact same thing happened to Lucic last year. He hit 30 then couldnt score for the next 15-20 games (playoffs included) Now he's got pretty much the same numbers this season as he did last year .

Patrice Brisebois is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 08:47 PM
  #36
knuck
On and off fan
 
knuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montréal
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,266
vCash: 500
I'm actually glad he's on a slump. Great timing

knuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 09:45 PM
  #37
Teufelsdreck
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 14,876
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriss E View Post
Not sure how people still don't understand that goal scorers are streaky. 30 goal scorers by definition, over a full season, will go 52 games without scoring. They also won't evenly distribute that production over the year. They will score by bunch, they will go cold, they will have multiple goal games.
It is absolutely normal.
They could go without a goal oftener than in 50 games. They could compile 25% of their goals in one game (as Eller has, although he's not a 30-goal scorer).

Teufelsdreck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2012, 11:43 PM
  #38
Born in 1909
Vive la France!
 
Born in 1909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 4,964
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by knuck View Post
I'm actually glad he's on a slump. Great timing
Yep.

It would be a terrible time to begin tearing it up.

Born in 1909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 01:48 AM
  #39
Kue
Interviewing for GM
 
Kue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Portland OR
Country: United States
Posts: 466
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whizniewski View Post
His "slump" started at the same time it became apparrent that the Habs were not going to make the playoffs. He was candid about the fact that playing out the last few games without playoff aspirations is tough. He's still a young player, nothing at all to worry about.
This is exactly right. Remember, this is the first year in the NHL that he's been in a position where the games don't really mean squat. Compare him to someone like Cole, who has been in this spot before and is still bringing it. Its veteran savvy that MaxPac is still developing.

Kue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 08:46 AM
  #40
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 33,471
vCash: 256
He could have scored a couple on Saturday, played well the compete level is still there and love the fact that he drives the net that hard. Kid will score 40 someday

Habs 4 Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 09:19 AM
  #41
Beakermania*
 
Beakermania*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kingston or Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,964
vCash: 500
7 assists over those 11 games

Beakermania* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 09:26 AM
  #42
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 33,471
vCash: 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commandant View Post
7 assists over those 11 games
Wants to also become the best play maker ever

Like I said I would be worried if the compete level wasn't there, he plays hard every single shift so I don't really care if he doesn't score another in these last 3 games

Habs 4 Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 09:41 AM
  #43
otto bond
Registered User
 
otto bond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,011
vCash: 500
Getting 30 goals is an accomplishment itself and I for one am pleasantly surprised.
The team has a whole has been in a funk and with out secondary scoring, things tied up for his line. Look at Cole and Desharnais, they too have been less productive. Also, they have had chances just not converting....well Cole has score like 4 or 5 goals in that spanne.
At 22-23 years old, coming of major injury, he has been nothing short of incredible. His awareness has increased tenfold out there and is keeping his head up more.

otto bond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 09:52 AM
  #44
WestIslander
Registered User
 
WestIslander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,365
vCash: 500
He was drafted less than 5 years ago, he just came back from a career and life threatning injury and scored 30 goals this season! What more do you want? Let the kid grow, let him mature and develop and you will see him score more than 30 one day.

I stand by my word, Pacioretty is a 40 goal scorer in this league, if Cammalleri can score 39, then Pacioretty can score 40+

Reasons:

- Pacioretty is bigger
- Pacioretty is stronger
- Pacioretty is faster
- Pacioretty is more focused
- Pacioretty is has been through more at a younger age

WestIslander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 10:18 AM
  #45
RaMMuT
Tank Nation 2012
 
RaMMuT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Montreal
Country: Palestine
Posts: 1,084
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriss E View Post
Not sure how people still don't understand that goal scorers are streaky. 30 goal scorers by definition, over a full season, will go 52 games without scoring. They also won't evenly distribute that production over the year. They will score by bunch, they will go cold, they will have multiple goal games.
It is absolutely normal.
Wish people would have understood that when we still had AK


RaMMuT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 10:27 AM
  #46
Beakermania*
 
Beakermania*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kingston or Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,964
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaMMuT View Post
Wish people would have understood that when we still had AK

Problem with AK is that when he wasn't scoring goals he brought little of value outside of that. He became a liability.

Guys like Gionta and Patches who are also streaky can still contribute in other ways when they are not scoring goals.

Beakermania* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 10:44 AM
  #47
AreYouHockey
Registered User
 
AreYouHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 439
vCash: 500
Still has 6A in last 11GP, not that much of a slump. He's helping another way and it's not a big deal in the actual situation.

AreYouHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 10:55 AM
  #48
OpenIceHit
Registered User
 
OpenIceHit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,387
vCash: 500
Let's just say that I am way more concerned with Bourque. 8 pts in 35 games since in Mtl ... Yikes!!!

The Montreal Canadiens and the art of acquiring players (with big cap hit) you won't never be able to get rid of (Bourque, Gomez, Kaberle, ...)

OpenIceHit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 12:10 PM
  #49
AreYouHockey
Registered User
 
AreYouHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 439
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenIceHit View Post
Let's just say that I am way more concerned with Bourque. 8 pts in 35 games since in Mtl ... Yikes!!!

The Montreal Canadiens and the art of acquiring players (with big cap hit) you won't never be able to get rid of (Bourque, Gomez, Kaberle, ...)
You guys are seriously blinded by the stats.

Habs were lucky to get that 2nd pick for another 7 millions under achieving selfish player. Bourque is a throw in, low risk.

AreYouHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-02-2012, 12:51 PM
  #50
sharks9
Registered User
 
sharks9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,260
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenIceHit View Post
Let's just say that I am way more concerned with Bourque. 8 pts in 35 games since in Mtl ... Yikes!!!

The Montreal Canadiens and the art of acquiring players (with big cap hit) you won't never be able to get rid of (Bourque, Gomez, Kaberle, ...)
Bourque's cap hit isn't big at all. It's 2.7 million smaller than Cammalleri's and we got a 2nd and Holland out of that trade.

sharks9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.