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03-30-2012, 04:16 PM
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We've heard Mckenzie say that Seattle is in the lead and that Quebec has no infrastructure in place what so ever. The fact is that he's completely wrong Quebec has actively working on this for more than 2 years and they do have an infrastructure in place. Seattle is behind Quebec on that matter, they haven't started working on the Key Arena so that it would host a NHL team and even if they do, the arena itself was deemed unfit for an WHL team. If anything is real it's that Quebec has a good lead right now, but I still think the NHL is going to find some way to extend the Yotes life supply for one year.

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How is Seattle dead in the water? Arena panel will announce its finding and recommendations next week. If anything, the smoke surrounding Seattle has only gotten thicker in the last week or two.
Basically, I base it off the impression that the NHL doesn't seem very thrilled about the market's existing infrastructure in terms of a temporary arena and the option of landing an NBA team, which is obviously front and center in that market's mindset for any arena funding plan, doesn't seem to be very realistic for next season (which is the only one that matters for the Yotes, in all likelihood).... though with the Maloofs changing their tune in Sacramento, that could very well change.

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Basically, I base it off the impression that the NHL doesn't seem very thrilled about the market's existing infrastructure in terms of a temporary arena and the option of landing an NBA team, which is obviously front and center in that market's mindset for any arena funding plan, doesn't seem to be very realistic for next season (which is the only one that matters for the Yotes, in all likelihood).... though with the Maloofs changing their tune in Sacramento, that could very well change.
But if you believe Renaud Lavoie RDS (I am not a big fan of him LOL), who, since the roman empire said Seattle was next, the league does not want to play a single season in the Key.

http://legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/608456/posts/137377

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But if you believe Renaud Lavoie RDS (I am not a big fan of him LOL), who, since the roman empire said Seattle was next, the league does not want to play a single season in the Key.

http://legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/608456/posts/137377
I heard about that before, and that plays into what a lot of us have been saying about Seattle's current venues just not being up to snuff as even a temporary home.

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How the hell is Seattle in the lead?

They are.. what? 5 years at hte earliest away from a new building? and haven't they said they are only building it if they get the NBA and NHL teams?

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How the hell is Seattle in the lead?

They are.. what? 5 years at hte earliest away from a new building? and haven't they said they are only building it if they get the NBA and NHL teams?
Seattle might be "in the lead" in that if all things being equal, Seattle as a top 15 TV market and might be preferable for relocation while Quebec could be milked for a larger expansion fee.

Saying that, not all things are equal...

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Seattle might be "in the lead" in that if all things being equal, Seattle as a top 15 TV market and might be preferable for relocation while Quebec could be milked for a larger expansion fee.

Saying that, not all things are equal...
Being a top-X US TV market or even a big potential market doesn't automaticaly leads to success! Need examples?

The NHL should play it safe this time.

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McKenzie is right. It doesnt not mean we are closer, it means its done!

Where is your sense of humour?

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Quebec is a larger NHL tv market than Seattle thats for sure.

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Being a top-X US TV market or even a big potential market doesn't automaticaly leads to success! Need examples?

The NHL should play it safe this time.
Would any of your examples draw a combined 10k on any given night for junior hockey in the metro area and support 4 total teams in that state (and one more right across the border)? And also have a major Canadian market 2.5 hours north?

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Would any of your examples draw a combined 10k on any given night for junior hockey in the metro area and support 4 total teams in that state (and one more right across the border)? And also have a major Canadian market 2.5 hours north?
You obviously underestimate the passion Canadians have for their hockey.

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You obviously underestimate the passion Canadians have for their hockey.
Not at all - I was responding to a post that wanted to allude to Seattle being similar to southern markets. In fact, I didn't mention QC at all. You would be a fool to try and argue QC is a poor market for the NHL. However, that doesn't mean Seattle isn't a great market on its own. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

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Would any of your examples draw a combined 10k on any given night for junior hockey in the metro area and support 4 total teams in that state (and one more right across the border)? And also have a major Canadian market 2.5 hours north?
The Junior Québec City Remparts have an attendance average of 10 928 (and pretty much fills up for the playoffs). There is the Pee-Wee Junior tournament every year that gets a lot of people in the Colisée.

In the Province of Québec, there is a grand total of 11 Junior teams in the Province, and there are 11 teams in the area that would be considered ''Nordiques Territory'' (The East and Maritimes divisions of the LHJMQ)

And there is a major market called Montreal at 2.5 hours from Québec.

But you're correct, Seattle isn't the same thing as Pheonix, but this doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have an NHL standards temporary arena and that the new arena project isn't advanced enough.

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The option of the colisee is a viable interim for an NHL team, Key Arena is not ( it's not even fit for an WHL team ). If a team is sold this year it will be to Quebec city, but I think the league is going to extend the Coyotes with imaginary mesures based upon the arrival of a new owner for the team, that will end up costing a lot to the league.

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Would any of your examples draw a combined 10k on any given night for junior hockey in the metro area and support 4 total teams in that state (and one more right across the border)? And also have a major Canadian market 2.5 hours north?
Should any big US market be able to support pro rugby, canoeing, golf or even table tennis tournaments all at the same time, I couldn't care less! We're talking hockey support here, aren't we?


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Would any of your examples draw a combined 10k on any given night for junior hockey in the metro area and support 4 total teams in that state (and one more right across the border)? And also have a major Canadian market 2.5 hours north?
I don't see how even if Washington was really big on hockey would outbest Quebec. Quebec has 8 million inhabitants and Washington 6.8 million. And Quebec would have instantly 3 good rivalries ( Montreal, Toronto, Boston ) maybe Ottawa too.

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