Proposal: Van - Was / Van - NYI / Van - TB

[Kagee*]

Originally Posted by KonaRider

Trade 1:
To Washington: Mason Raymond, Marc-Andre Gragnani, 2012 1st
To Vancouver: Mike Green


Trade 2:
To NYI: Keith Ballard
To Vancouver: 2012 2nd


Trade 3:
To TB: Cory Schneider (obviously)
To Vancouver: Brett Connolly, Tampa Bay's 1st.

t1 - bad value

t2 - plausible, but unlikely.

t3 - most likely, just needs a bit more added from both sides to even it out.

[hfgreg]

Yzerman laughs and hangs the phone up.

[hfgreg]

What would WAS want from TB for Green?

[NeilYoung]

Originally Posted by hfgreg

What would WAS want from TB for Green?

A second line center or a damn good LD. I don't really see TB having either

[Bourne Endeavor]

Originally Posted by NeilYoung

hahahahahhahahahah Green hasn't been one dimensional for like three years nice of you to admit you haven't watched the Caps for three years though bud

While I disagree with how long Green hasn't been one dimensional but that's semantics. Have to admit, he has certainly come a long way, especially the last two years. Never thought I'd say it but he is actually decent defensively. In any case, the only way I could see Green coming to Vancouver is if Washington wanted Schneider, which I do not believe they do. We wouldn't even consider trading Kesler, thus no trades to be made.

I do not mind the Long Island deal but would rather a B prospect, preferably on defense to help stock up the cupboards.

We have no further use for Connolly, hence why Hodgson was dealt. All I'd want from Tampa is their first, however they need to draft draft a hell of a lot more than we do.

[Edgeworth*]

Give up Connolly and the 8th pick? Hahahaha.

[Zoidberg Jesus]

Originally Posted by BLAME CANADA

Not much in this draft after about 15ish spot and when your in the 20's it's pretty dry, your not getting a young elite goalie like Schneider for late draft picks in a hurting draft, last time I check Canucks aren't the ones in need of goaltending so no reason for us to give one like Schneider away for such a bad return. I'd be happy to send you Luongo for that so we can keep Schneider, that's how good the kid is.

This seems to happen every year. In the start-of-the-year rankings, there are always 10-20 kids who are guaranteed first rounders and stay in the first the whole year. As a result, they get a whole year of coverage, scouting reports, hype, and most importantly, name recognition for the people who follow the draft, but don't actually do any scouting. By the end of the year, those kids are the ones considered sure picks. Meanwhile, the other guys who've come on strong but didn't have the coverage throughout the year are unfamiliar and get seen as risks. People extrapolate from there, saying that the draft really thins out after those first 10-20 guys, and the draft gets labeled as a weak class.

[Still All In]

Every year. Same ****.

[nhljohnson]

Not that Yzerman was ever going to be keen on trading his first 1st round selection as a GM, but after the trades of Downie and Ashton, Connolly is no longer expendable.

I'm sure Yzerman would love to have to give nothing more than Detroit's 1st and Tampa's 2nd for Schneider but I don't think Tampa's 1st is necessarily untouchable. I do think Yzerman will be reluctant to move it but, if the Lightning's 1st ends up between 7th and 10th range, I can see Yzerman being willing to part with it as a last resort.

There's no doubt in my mind that Schneider is the best option for the Lightning available, but, as others have noted, he's not the only option. That, combined with the value of the assets that will have to given up and the $ that will have to be invested to retain his services for the long-term, probably means Yzerman's best offer will be reasonable but underwhelming.

No doubt Columbus will be able to offer a better package, especially if Columbus, as expected, moves Nash for a nice haul before the draft. But the question then is, will Columbus actually make a substantially better offer? Assuming Columbus does, will Gillis perceive it absolutely worth Schneider staying in-conference?

[Mafoofoo]

Originally Posted by ProspectProphet

Remember - team Canada left him out...

I'm fairly certain that Vancouver does not have anywhere near the defensemen that team Canada did.