There is always talk on Long Island on feasibility of the franchise. Lighthouse projects have waxed and waned like the fog over Block Island Sound. Many, myself included, have questioned Garth Snow when it comes to building a complete team. I have ben utterly impressed with Snow's ability to draft and completely unimpressed by his methods for building around the many young potential stars the play on the Island. To me he needed to build in some more experience. The fit kind of experience.
All that said, the one constant about the Islanders is this is a team with a loyal fan base, and this may not be Hockeytown USA, but really only due to the fact this is not a town, but rather an Island. The fans have shown me time and time again, this is one hell of a hockey island.
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his opinion means just about as much to me as an average HF poster... not to offend anyone but really, he is just like anyone else... a hockey fan with an opinion.
The Islanders will be a stanley cup contender before 2020. that will have less to do with ownership, management and coaching but more to do with sucking for so long.
I will continue to back this team, no matter what but someone like eklund giving positive comments, means nothing.
If the Lighthouse was built and I stayed there for a week several different times, had the receipts and pictures to prove it, my friends and I always talked about the great times we had there; then if Eklund said anything about it, I wouldn't believe that the Lighthouse was real. Eklund sucks. the only positive thing I could possibly hear about Eklund is that he retired and lost all interest in hockey.
Philadelpiha in a game I watched closely and converted me over to these here Isles.
Can't even spell the name of the city he hails from right
Wow, he was probably waiting for a game that was close from the Isles when they played the "not so fly guys". He could have also said, "even though those Isles lost, I like the tenacity they play with"
Believe it or not
It is actually pretty easy for Ek to say this now. The Isles have sucked for a while. They are slowly getting better. They have a pipeline of prospects. Now to make it to the next level we might need 1 or 2 really good vets, but it isnt that far of a jump.
Pretty easy for a guy like Ek or ANY non Isles fan to finally see the light. Go back to 2007 or 2008 and it would be tough for a non Isles fan to have faith. As much as some here might think we are still far away from the playoffs, truth is that another dman through FA or one of these kids steps into the D and we are there with another FA vet. (no slow starts or dumb vets like Rolston who weigh the team down or even Comeau)
Its like a "psychic" having a 17 year old girl walking into the place to have a "reading". Now what do you think she will talk to the psychic about? OFCOURSE its going to be some dumbass she likes. It isnt to tough to take the jump from young girl to->love problems. Just like it isn't to tough to go from young Isles team to-> possibly making the playoffs.
Symon - Eklund is a hockey rumor regurgitator (sp?).
i don't think that he follows hockey very closely, or he would have known that Snow tried to get some quality players. you can't blame Snow if no one wants to go there...
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Just a little improvement in the consistency from the first 2 lines would be the difference of playoffs for this team... But with a couple big holes to fill before you can consider anything along the lines of a contender..
That's why this is an easy thing for anyone who has watched hockey in the past few years. I don't disagree with him, but I am not buying his new found love..
his opinion means just about as much to me as an average HF poster... not to offend anyone but really, he is just like anyone else... a hockey fan with an opinion.
The Islanders will be a stanley cup contender before 2020. that will have less to do with ownership, management and coaching but more to do with sucking for so long.
I will continue to back this team, no matter what but someone like eklund giving positive comments, means nothing.
This is the saddest post I've ever read. A contender by 2020? That's what we're shooting for now?
I'm not trying to attack you, SDIsles, but if a rebuilding process takes 15 years, then it didn't work very well.
As a great poster used to write all the time: raise the bar!
This could probably be said about any franchise that has gone 19 years without a postseason victory.
Believe it or not, we are not the longest standing team without a series victory. The Winnipeg Jets/Phoenix Coyotes have not won a series since 1987. I hope they win one this year.
The guy has a FULL TIME JOB talking about hockey. If you are the same as him WTF aren't you doing that??? You aren't, so stop hating...
Regardless of whether his rumors pan out , dude busted his ass to get into a job talking about the best game on earth and getting paid and making a living out of it. **** just didn't fall into his lap.
None of you are as knowledgeable as him and it's just a matter of fact. You aren't surrounded by people knowledgeable about hockey in your every day job and aren't learning a damn thing about it like he is. I am not kissing the guys ass, just saying i give respect where respect is due because i'm not a bitter curmudgeon living on the Island...
The guy has a FULL TIME JOB talking about hockey. If you are the same as him WTF aren't you doing that??? You aren't, so stop hating...
Regardless of whether his rumors pan out , dude busted his ass to get into a job talking about the best game on earth and getting paid and making a living out of it. **** just didn't fall into his lap.
None of you are as knowledgeable as him and it's just a matter of fact. You aren't surrounded by people knowledgeable about hockey in your every day job and aren't learning a damn thing about it like he is. I am not kissing the guys ass, just saying i give respect where respect is due because i'm not a bitter curmudgeon living on the Island...
So by this logic, one must respect Carrot Top's movies.
None of you are as knowledgeable as him and it's just a matter of fact. You aren't surrounded by people knowledgeable about hockey in your every day job and aren't learning a damn thing about it like he is. I am not kissing the guys ass, just saying i give respect where respect is due because i'm not a bitter curmudgeon living on the Island...
I do respect the fact that Ek has started something from nothing and how long it takes to build something for nothing.
I will not praise the guy for a whole site of "rumors", which I am pretty sure that anyone on here could actually do better. And I am also sure that him doing that site that someone that actually has legit rumors gets on there and can make his site more legit. Kind of like the fake it until you make it in sales. Act like you are a great salesman to all prospective clients, then you might actually become one eventually.
I think Ek's great prediction is also super easy to do. Look we are at our 5th (:eek!) non playoff season, and I am sure Eks reasoning is that "they gotta get in soon!" It is bit a BIG jump in logic. As I said before its like a 17 yo girl that goes to a psychic, anyone could figure out that girl is going to the "psychic" to talk about a guy....not a BIG jump in logic.
I am not a curmudgeon, if a politician is full of ****, or even somoene that is a biased political observer is, or even if someone lies in my family, I will say something if they get into my face. Sorry bull is bull.
his opinion means just about as much to me as an average HF poster... not to offend anyone but really, he is just like anyone else... a hockey fan with an opinion.
The Islanders will be a stanley cup contender before 2020. that will have less to do with ownership, management and coaching but more to do with sucking for so long.
I will continue to back this team, no matter what but someone like eklund giving positive comments, means nothing.
his opinion mean less then the average poster
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His opinions remind me of some posters, just not here. On the once official board, some of those post like they are celebrities ranting about an issue, and Eklund is still riding his celebrity.
But if one just looks at the message, it's a nice bit. We have very loyal and passionate fans (being screwed) and it's a great fanbase to have for a hockey team.
So by this logic, one must respect Carrot Top's movies.
Respect Carrot Top, not his movies. You make a jump in logic. Can you make a better movie? I'm sure you think you can... DO IT! I give major props to anyone who can go out there and make a full time job in a sport they love.
I do respect the fact that Ek has started something from nothing and how long it takes to build something for nothing.
I will not praise the guy for a whole site of "rumors", which I am pretty sure that anyone on here could actually do better. And I am also sure that him doing that site that someone that actually has legit rumors gets on there and can make his site more legit. Kind of like the fake it until you make it in sales. Act like you are a great salesman to all prospective clients, then you might actually become one eventually.
I think Ek's great prediction is also super easy to do. Look we are at our 5th (:eek!) non playoff season, and I am sure Eks reasoning is that "they gotta get in soon!" It is bit a BIG jump in logic. As I said before its like a 17 yo girl that goes to a psychic, anyone could figure out that girl is going to the "psychic" to talk about a guy....not a BIG jump in logic.
I am not a curmudgeon, if a politician is full of ****, or even somoene that is a biased political observer is, or even if someone lies in my family, I will say something if they get into my face. Sorry bull is bull.
Totally agree, my point was just what you said in the beginning. I respect him because of they way he has grown his site and his business. Did the whole thing start by guessing... maybe. He still have to bust his ass to get where he's at and I don't think he's done it by lying or being manipulative. Speculation is NOT lying.
Just a little improvement in the consistency from the first 2 lines would be the difference of playoffs for this team... But with a couple big holes to fill before you can consider anything along the lines of a contender..
That's why this is an easy thing for anyone who has watched hockey in the past few years. I don't disagree with him, but I am not buying his new found love..
Actually less blown leads would be the difference. We lost 10 Games going into the third with a lead. thats 20 points
Totally agree, my point was just what you said in the beginning. I respect him because of they way he has grown his site and his business. Did the whole thing start by guessing... maybe. He still have to bust his ass to get where he's at and I don't think he's done it by lying or being manipulative. Speculation is NOT lying.
Did it start by guessing?.................YES!
Well lots of times speculation is lying. Look at the people that are conspiracy nuts. They say that the world is flat! They have no proof. All the proof they have is that they attack others. They give a theory of look all those pictures are doctored! Which is being manipulative (ironically manipulative on people manipulating photos). Where is the proof? Because there isnt any!
Hey Ek says Player X will get traded to Team Y. Where is the proof? Then he can say I heard it from Source Z. How is that proof? Like how is this proof: "well they manipulated photos!" My point is that Eklund has an easy out......any rumor blogger has an easy out. Its built in. But it is being manipulative and it is very easy to lie. In fact I , Peter the Nut, have been thinking about starting my own hockey rumor site....only $19.95 a month, for a year!! Plus I will have forums! Only you have to send me the money first and I promise I will tweet the details later. Honestly.......
Lets just say he actally has real sources
Ok I will admit that there is no way Eklund can prove his sources are real, without MAYBE outing all his actual sources. But then if he acts that way, no one will give him any info anymore. So its a catch 22. Another point is that his rumors might come true .000001% of the time. I think I would have just as good of a record if I had all the ACTIVE NHL players names on their own dart. Threw those darts at a blow-up of all NHL teams logos and see (in this hypothetical) that the "WELLWOOD" dart landed on the Isles, then the Debbies and lastly those dirty Rags. Then I go to the interwebs and say "my sources say that Wellwood looks to go to one of the 3 metro teams, no bull!" Eventually I might be .000001% right too.
Well lots of times speculation is lying. Look at the people that are conspiracy nuts. They say that the world is flat! They have no proof. All the proof they have is that they attack others. They give a theory of look all those pictures are doctored! Which is being manipulative (ironically manipulative on people manipulating photos). Where is the proof? Because there isnt any!
Hey Ek says Player X will get traded to Team Y. Where is the proof? Then he can say I heard it from Source Z. How is that proof? Like how is this proof: "well they manipulated photos!" My point is that Eklund has an easy out......any rumor blogger has an easy out. Its built in. But it is being manipulative and it is very easy to lie. In fact I , Peter the Nut, have been thinking about starting my own hockey rumor site....only $19.95 a month, for a year!! Plus I will have forums! Only you have to send me the money first and I promise I will tweet the details later. Honestly.......
Lets just say he actally has real sources
Ok I will admit that there is no way Eklund can prove his sources are real, without MAYBE outing all his actual sources. But then if he acts that way, no one will give him any info anymore. So its a catch 22. Another point is that his rumors might come true .000001% of the time. I think I would have just as good of a record if I had all the ACTIVE NHL players names on their own dart. Threw those darts at a blow-up of all NHL teams logos and see (in this hypothetical) that the "WELLWOOD" dart landed on the Isles, then the Debbies and lastly those dirty Rags. Then I go to the interwebs and say "my sources say that Wellwood looks to go to one of the 3 metro teams, no bull!" Eventually I might be .000001% right too.
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The big problem with your post is logically you make no sense. Speculation, by definition is guessing. Once you announce you are speculating you CANNOT be lying. If someone tells me they predict that the Islanders will sign Parise in the off season and it doesn't happen I will not call them a liar. It's a prediction, a speculation. If Eklund writes that he has two sources that tell him that Parise is giving strong consideration to the NY Isles to sign as a free agent I have the choice to trust that his sources are professional and not "darts". Either way, I cannot accuse him of lying because he has already stated that his site is speculation. If speculators are liars then we can go ahead and condemn weathermen, stock brokers and a whole bunch other people.
Yes I know there is some science involved in meteorology. One of my best friends in college is a meteorologist, but he will always tell you that weather patterns change and many times they are predicting what will happen...
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