Galchenyuk is actually an American of Russian descent. Yakupov is the #1 prospect, he's as much of a flight risk as Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Malkin are/were. The same probably applies to Grigorenko.
The KHL is always going to be an option, but I don't see it looming all that much in Yakupov and Grigorenko. None of them will take a fall in the standings because of it IMO.
Oops, my mistake. You can see how much I am following the draft prospects this year.
With the lockout looming I'm concerned about things starting with a contract for one year, then turning magically overnight into something longer as in Petrov's case.
Oops, my mistake. You can see how much I am following the draft prospects this year.
With the lockout looming I'm concerned about things starting with a contract for one year, then turning magically overnight into something longer as in Petrov's case.
Both Yakupov and Grigorenko came over to play in the CHL before their Draft year so you can't really compare them to Petrov's situation.
If there is a lockout, it would be interesting to see if either or both go to the KHL for a season. If they decide to remain in N.A., then there is no issue.
You didnt get the joke......4 years or 3 years is more or less a wash...I was saying this is how our managment thinks......Plus Trouba wont spend 4 years in college. hes that good and that legit...
Tiebreaker rules
1.The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
2.The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
3.The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.
Last edited by bossy22: 04-02-2012 at 08:31 PM.
Reason: Updated for games thru Apr 1st, 2012
Tiebreaker rules
1.The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
2.The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
3.The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.
With a tampa win last night, sure looks like picks 9 and 10 are "out of reach" for us. Tonight will go a long way towards determining our fate. Even picks 7 and 8 seem a bit tough to obtain as we dont own the tie breakers with them....We are once again cementing our position between picks 4 to 6....although a loss to NJ tonight (a tough team for us on a good night) would really nose us in there....
I do want them to play hard the end of the way, but i also wouldnt be too upset if they gave Grahame a courtesy start the last game of the season...
With a tampa win last night, sure looks like picks 9 and 10 are "out of reach" for us. Tonight will go a long way towards determining our fate. Even picks 7 and 8 seem a bit tough to obtain as we dont own the tie breakers with them....We are once again cementing our position between picks 4 to 6....although a loss to NJ tonight (a tough team for us on a good night) would really nose us in there....
I do want them to play hard the end of the way, but i also wouldnt be too upset if they gave Grahame a courtesy start the last game of the season...
Agreed. As long as we finish bottom-4 I think we'll be in great shape for the draft. That guarantees us one of Yakupov, Grigorenko, Murray and Galchenyuk. At the 4th pick I would expect AG to be our pick, which would easily be my happiest moment of the year as far as being an Isles fan goes. This kid could end up being the best player to come out of this draft. Having a 1-2 punch of Tavares-Galchenyuk would really be an Isles fan's dream come true.
However if it isn't meant to be, I'd still be happy with a consolation prize of Ryan Murray. As long as we pick 4th or lower, I'm pretty confident that we will end up with one of these two guys.
I just wanna win the lotto, after the balls failed us last yr to NJ. Hopefully wherever we end up we could go from 4 to 2 or 5 to 3!
But as long as we have a shot at Dumba, Murray or Trouba I'll be happy! Here's to me hoping that the BPA when we draft is a D.
Wiining the draft lotto moves you up a max of 4 picks, 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 5 to 1, 6 to 2, 7 to 3, etc.
I think the Islanders have to make a trade with this years pick. Weathers its trading outright for a defenceman or trading back and picking up a defencemen. We are not going to get the players we need in free agencey and the players we draft will not have an impact anytime soon. Our young players need development help NOW! not next year or after, we will continue to stunt the growth of our young talent if we do nothing and just take the high pick.
Posted this elsewhere, but it's more fitting for this thread...
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Another thing - if it is our turn to draft and ANY one of Grigorenko, Yakupov or Galchenyuk is available, do expect Washington to make a HARD push for moving up, likely including their two firsts AND a viable NHL player.
Posted this elsewhere, but it's more fitting for this thread...
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Another thing - if it is our turn to draft and ANY one of Grigorenko, Yakupov or Galchenyuk is available, do expect Washington to make a HARD push for moving up, likely including their two firsts AND a viable NHL player.
That's my gutt feeling at the moment...
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This is very interesting and it does make sense. Washington is in their window and it's clear they're a little weak at center, especially with Kuznetsov re-signing in the KHL. Look at the what the loss of Backstrom did to that team.
It all depends on who the player is, Washington does seem to have some depth at defense from what I remember. What's that sensation in my gutt?
This is very interesting and it does make sense. Washington is in their window and it's clear they're a little weak at center, especially with Kuznetsov re-signing in the KHL. Look at the what the loss of Backstrom did to that team.
It all depends on who the player is, Washington does seem to have some depth at defense from what I remember. What's that sensation in my gutt?
If they offered say Orlov with their two first rounders straight up for the Isles' first, would that be something Snow should bite at?
If they offered say Orlov with their two first rounders straight up for the Isles' first, would that be something Snow should bite at?
It really depends on what Snow thinks of the player available at his pick...that wouldn't be enough for Tavares, but it would be for Nino/Strome. I think if the Isles have the #1, I may hold onto Yakupov. But I don't know if I value anyone else in the draft enough to turn down two top-15 picks and a good young dman.
It really depends on what Snow thinks of the player available at his pick...that wouldn't be enough for Tavares, but it would be for Nino/Strome. I think if the Isles have the #1, I may hold onto Yakupov. But I don't know if I value anyone else in the draft enough to turn down two top-15 picks and a good young dman.
That last post was based on the assumption in the post above:
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...if it is our turn to draft and ANY one of Grigorenko, Yakupov or Galchenyuk is available...
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Looks to me like there is a top 4 in this draft then a big drop off.
- Nail
- Grigs
- Dumba
- R.Murray
Outside of these 4, there is a lot of question marks. based on the last few games coming up, the Islanders could pick anywhere from #2 (longshot) to #9.
My personal choice/ realistic choice is Ryan Murray. He looks to fit the mold of 2 way defenseman with good decision making and legit upside.
I think the Islanders have to make a trade with this years pick. Weathers its trading outright for a defenceman or trading back and picking up a defencemen. We are not going to get the players we need in free agencey and the players we draft will not have an impact anytime soon. Our young players need development help NOW! not next year or after, we will continue to stunt the growth of our young talent if we do nothing and just take the high pick.
Disagree, everything I've read about Ryan Murray seems to say he's ready to immediately step into a top-4 role, like Fowler and Larsson did. Dumba may take a season or two, but all the posters drooling over PK Subban so much they're proposing Gomez being included in the package should realize Dumba plays like Subban but has a higher ceiling.
Disagree, everything I've read about Ryan Murray seems to say he's ready to immediately step into a top-4 role, like Fowler and Larsson did. Dumba may take a season or two, but all the posters drooling over PK Subban so much they're proposing Gomez being included in the package should realize Dumba plays like Subban but has a higher ceiling.
Even if they are "NHL Ready" can could step into our top 4 this coming season. It will still be a couple years before they make a real impact on our team. Look at Hedman, Schenn, Larsson, etc. Yes they stepped into their teams top 4 but are struggling to make a impact or a just beging to after a season or two. BY the time they are ready deHaan, Mayfield, Donovon will already be making an impact. I honestly think if we take a dman this draft and stick him in our top 4 for the coming season then it would be no different than keeping Eaton, Jurcina, Staios in our d pairings for next season.
We talk about rushing prospects all the time around here. Defencive prospects take longer than Forward prospects, goaltenders even longer. We need a better option for the coming season.
Really hope we finish with a 1-4 pick, this season is lost and we really need to salvage another top notch young talent due to our inability to bring in high tier FA's.
ROW - Total number of Regulation plus Overtime Wins
Tiebreaker rules
1.The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
2.The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
3.The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.
What are the chances we win the lottery if we stick at 4th...10%? Because I have faith hahahahahahha
The same exact question was asked last year. We had faith then and the hockey gods screwed us. NJ with their like sub-3% chance to win does and snatch Adam Larsson from our grasp.
What are the chances we win the lottery if we stick at 4th...10%? Because I have faith hahahahahahha
The lottery is ok, but I just want to limit the damage. Of course that means Montreal has to win sometime this century, and they are all about tanking right now.
You can see how much I am following the draft prospects this year.
