Central Scouting - 2012 Final rankings (April 9th)

[Tormentor]

The release of final CS ranking is tentatively scheduled for April 9th, but Mike Morreale already has some info about the NA list here (Link to NHL.com).

"As promised, here are the top 10 players Central Scouting ranked in each league. In order to maintain some level of confidentiality, the players are listed in alphabetical order.

Keep in mind, this is the closest thing you'll get to a finalized list until the actual release of the "Big Chart", tentatively scheduled for April 9. The number beside each league represents the projected amount of first-round picks from that league's top 10.

Can you predict what the actual top 10 for each league might look like?"

Western Hockey League (7)
Mathew Dumba, D, Red Deer
Ryan Murray, D, Everett
Derrick Pouliot, D, Portland
Griffin Reinhart, D, Edmonton
Morgan Rielly, D, Edmonton
Colton Sissons, C, Kelowna
Chandler Stephenson, C/LW, Regina
Lukas Sutter, C, Saskatoon
Dalton Thrower, D, Saskatoon
Mike Winther, C, Prince Albert

Ontario Hockey League (10)
Cody Ceci, D, Ottawa
Radek Faksa, C, Kitchener
Matthew Finn, D, Guelph
Alex Galchenyuk, C, Sarnia
Brendan Gaunce, C, Belleville
Slater Koekkoek, D, Peterborough
Scott Kosmachuk, RW, Guelph
Olli Maatta, D, London
Thomas Wilson, RW, Plymouth
Nail Yakupov, RW, Sarnia

Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (2)
Francis Beauvillier, C/LW, Rimouski
Matej Beran, C, Prince Edward Island
Ryan Culkin, D, Quebec
Martin Frk, RW, Halifax
Mikhail Grigorenko, C, Quebec
Charles Hudon, LW, Chicoutimi
Tomas Hyka, RW, Gatineau
Christophe Lalancette, RW, Acadie-Bathurst
James Melindy, D, Moncton
Andrew Ryan, LW, Halifax

USA East (0)
Chris Calnan, RW, Nobles
Adam Gilmour, RW, Nobels
Brian Hart, RW, Exeter
Mark Jankowski, C, Stanstead High School
Samuel Kurker, RW, St. John's Prep
Cristoval 'Boo' Nieves, C, Kent School
Daniel O'Regan, C, St. Sebastian School
Doyle Somerby, D, Kimball Union
Devin Tringale, LW, Lawrence
Jimmy Vesey, LW, South Shore

USA West (5)
Phillip DiGiuseppe, LW, University of Michigan
Zemgus Girgensons, C, Dubuque
Nicolas Kerdiles, LW, USNTDP
Michael Matheson, D, Dubuque
Stefan Matteau, C, USNTDP
Jake McCabe, D, University of Wisconsin
Jordan Schmaltz, D, Green Bay
Patrick Sieloff, D, USNTDP
Brady Skjei, D, USNTDP
Jacob Trouba, D, USNTDP

Canadian Juniors (0)
Matthew Benning, D, Spruce Grove
Paul Dejersey, RW, Prince George
Rhett Holland, D, Okotoks
Alexander Kerfoot, C, Coquitlam
Jujhar Khara, LW, Prince George
Wade Murphy, RW, Penticton
Peter Quenneville, C, Sherwood
Devin Shore, C, Whitby
Reece Willcox, D, Merritt
Morgan Zulinick, C, Salmon Arm

[s04]

Can clearly see these guys only watch samples of players and don't travel the Q...

Clueless...

[Jeffrey]

[ozo]

I assume those six missing spots are reserved to Euro-based players, right?

[nvan97]

Morgan Rielly plays for Moose Jaw not Edmonton

[ManByng]

Originally Posted by nvan97

Morgan Rielly plays for Moose Jaw not Edmonton

if he did play for us, we'd have a even better chance of winning the Memorial Cup !

[Yandle Bars]

Surprised Zach Stepan is left off of the list.

[firstroundbust]

Originally Posted by TourettesGuy

Surprised Zach Stepan is left off of the list.

If there was a Central HS/Prep then maybe he'd be on it. Not a strong year in that regard, especially against the USHL/NCAA rankings.


Even then, he's a nice player but no need to overboard with him.

[DuckJet]

Originally Posted by TourettesGuy

Surprised Zach Stepan is left off of the list.

Not even a little surprised. He's pretty underrated.

[DJB]

I can't beleive that T Wilson is ranked as a 1st rounder... Guy looks like a 3rd or 4th line goon...

[Sweech]

Originally Posted by DJB

I can't beleive that T Wilson is ranked as a 1st rounder... Guy looks like a 3rd or 4th line goon...

Every team wants "the next Milan Lucic".

[Edges7]

I don't see how Matteau is still on this list. Seriously, if there is any top prospect who disappointed me more this year than he did, I haven't found him yet.

Ebert drops like a rock for reasons I still don't get but Matteau, who seemed more interested in either starting fights that he wouldn't finish or playing like a cheap thug, maintains his ranking.

[IkeaMonkey*]

Originally Posted by Edges7

I don't see how Matteau is still on this list. Seriously, if there is any top prospect who disappointed me more this year than he did, I haven't found him yet.

Ebert drops like a rock for reasons I still don't get but Matteau, who seemed more interested in either starting fights that he wouldn't finish or playing like a cheap thug, maintains his ranking.

I guess I've been "lucky" to see the "tame" Matteau as he was completely not off his rocker in the games I've seen this year. I see a lot of Tkachuk in him, to be honest.

[Tim Wallach]

Originally Posted by DJB

I can't beleive that T Wilson is ranked as a 1st rounder... Guy looks like a 3rd or 4th line goon...

This doesn't say he's rated as a 1st rounder. It says he's ranked in the top-10 OHL players for this draft, of which, only 7 are expected to go first round. Seeing Yakupov, Faksa, Gaunce, Galchenyuk, Maata, Ceci and Finn, you can pretty much deduce that he's rated 2nd round. And I think that's probably fair.

EDIT: Sorry, I mis-read the first post and saw (7) was for the WHL. In this case, I agree. Wilson as a 1st-rounder is a stretch.

[hfboardsuser]

How I think CS will rank them:

Western Hockey League (7)

Ryan Murray, D, Everett
Griffin Reinhart, D, Edmonton
Mathew Dumba, D, Red Deer
Morgan Rielly, D, Edmonton
Derrick Pouliot, D, Portland
Colton Sissons, C, Kelowna
Dalton Thrower, D, Saskatoon
Lukas Sutter, C, Saskatoon
Chandler Stephenson, C/LW, Regina
Mike Winther, C, Prince Albert

Ontario Hockey League (10)

Nail Yakupov, RW, Sarnia
Radek Faksa, C, Kitchener
Alex Galchenyuk, C, Sarnia
Cody Ceci, D, Ottawa
Matthew Finn, D, Guelph
Brendan Gaunce, C, Belleville
Slater Koekkoek, D, Peterborough
Olli Maatta, D, London
Thomas Wilson, RW, Plymouth
Scott Kosmachuk, RW, Guelph

Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (2)

Mikhail Grigorenko, C, Quebec
Charles Hudon, LW, Chicoutimi
Martin Frk, RW, Halifax
Andrew Ryan, LW, Halifax
Tomas Hyka, RW, Gatineau
Matej Beran, C, Prince Edward Island
Ryan Culkin, D, Quebec
Francis Beauvillier, C/LW, Rimouski
Christophe Lalancette, RW, Acadie-Bathurst
James Melindy, D, Moncton

USA East (0)

Mark Jankowski, C, Stanstead High School
Brian Hart, RW, Exeter
Cristoval 'Boo' Nieves, C, Kent School
Jimmy Vesey, LW, South Shore
Adam Gilmour, RW, Nobels
Chris Calnan, RW, Nobles
Samuel Kurker, RW, St. John's Prep
Devin Tringale, LW, Lawrence
Doyle Somerby, D, Kimball Union
Daniel O'Regan, C, St. Sebastian School

USA West (5)

Jacob Trouba, D, USNTDP
Zemgus Girgensons, C, Dubuque
Nicolas Kerdiles, LW, USNTDP
Stefan Matteau, C, USNTDP
Phillip DiGiuseppe, LW, University of Michigan
Brady Skjei, D, USNTDP
Michael Matheson, D, Dubuque
Jake McCabe, D, University of Wisconsin
Patrick Sieloff, D, USNTDP
Jordan Schmaltz, D, Green Bay

Canadian Juniors (0)

Jujhar Khara, LW, Prince George
Alexander Kerfoot, C, Coquitlam
Devin Shore, C, Whitby
Reece Wilcox, D, Merritt
Wade Murphy, RW, Penticton
Morgan Zulinick, C, Salmon Arm
Peter Quenneville, C, Sherwood
Paul Dejersey, RW, Prince George
Matthew Benning, D, Spruce Grove
Rhett Holland, D, Okotoks

[Edges7]

Originally Posted by DynamoAO

I guess I've been "lucky" to see the "tame" Matteau as he was completely not off his rocker in the games I've seen this year. I see a lot of Tkachuk in him, to be honest.

I've seen more of the old Matt Cooke out of him this year than anything/one else.

[arsmaster]

Originally Posted by DJB

I can't beleive that T Wilson is ranked as a 1st rounder... Guy looks like a 3rd or 4th line goon...

To be fair he is contributing in the playoffs. 3 goals/5 points in 5 games. If Plymouth moves on and he continues to add offense, dont be surprised if he's in McIlrath territory come draft time.

I hope my team stays away (unless we trade out of round 1 for 2- 2nds).

[ottawah]

Originally Posted by Edges7

I don't see how Matteau is still on this list. Seriously, if there is any top prospect who disappointed me more this year than he did, I haven't found him yet.

Ebert drops like a rock for reasons I still don't get.

Ebert dropped because of his very poor play trough the first 2/3 rds of the season. There really is no sugar coating how he looked bad defensively, and couldn't produce offense.

People had him very high on the list based on expectations, and he really did not meet them through the first 45 or so games. He was expected to be a dominant force, and he quite simply was not.

[danccchan]

Originally Posted by Tormentor

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USA East (0)
Chris Calnan, RW, Nobles
Adam Gilmour, RW, Nobels
Brian Hart, RW, Exeter
Mark Jankowski, C, Stanstead High School
Samuel Kurker, RW, St. John's Prep
Cristoval 'Boo' Nieves, C, Kent School
Daniel O'Regan, C, St. Sebastian School
Doyle Somerby, D, Kimball Union
Devin Tringale, LW, Lawrence
Jimmy Vesey, LW, South Shore

My US East Rankings (* for no personal viewings)

USA East (0)
Cristoval 'Boo' Nieves, C, Kent School
Adam Gilmour, RW, Nobels
Daniel O'Regan, C, St. Sebastian School
Chris Calnan, RW, Nobles
Doyle Somerby, D, Kimball Union
Devin Tringale, LW, Lawrence
Samuel Kurker, RW, St. John's Prep

* Brian Hart, RW, Exeter
* Mark Jankowski, C, Stanstead High School
* Jimmy Vesey, LW, South Shore

[danccchan]

Originally Posted by Edges7

I've seen more of the old Matt Cooke out of him this year than anything/one else.

Is that really a bad thing? Matt Cooke can play, agitate the hell out of teams, and can play physical. Is he the nicest guy? Hell no! But if you want a skilled guy that can give some punishment and piss other people off, Matteau can be that man.

[Marc the Habs Fan]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=626755

North American skaters: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=79331

RANK PLAYER TEAM LEAGUE HEIGHT WEIGHT POSITION
1 YAKUPOV, NAIL SARNIA OHL 5' 10.5" 189 RW
2 MURRAY, RYAN EVERETT WHL 6' 0.5" 195 D
3 GRIGORENKO, MIKHAIL QUEBEC QMJHL 6' 3.0" 200 C
4 GALCHENYUK, ALEX SARNIA OHL 6' 0.5" 198 C
5 RIELLY, MORGAN MOOSE JAW WHL 5' 11.5" 190 D
6 CECI, CODY OTTAWA OHL 6' 2.5" 207 D
7 FAKSA, RADEK KITCHENER OHL 6' 2.5" 203 C
8 MAATTA, OLLI LONDON OHL 6' 1.5" 202 D
9 TROUBA, JACOB USA U-18 USHL 6' 2.0" 193 D
10 REINHART, GRIFFIN EDMONTON WHL 6' 3.75" 197 D
11 DUMBA, MATHEW RED DEER WHL 5' 11.75" 173 D
12 POULIOT, DERRICK PORTLAND WHL 5' 11.25" 190 D
13 GAUNCE, BRENDAN BELLEVILLE OHL 6' 2.0" 215 C
14 SISSONS, COLTON KELOWNA WHL 6' 0.5" 187 C
15 WILSON, THOMAS PLYMOUTH OHL 6' 3.5" 203 RW
16 FINN, MATTHEW GUELPH OHL 6' 0.25" 192 D
17 MATTEAU, STEFAN USA U-18 USHL 6' 1.5" 210 C
18 GIRGENSONS, ZEMGUS DUBUQUE USHL 6' 1.5" 198 C
19 SKJEI, BRADY USA U-18 USHL 6' 2.75" 200 D
20 FRK, MARTIN HALIFAX QMJHL 5' 11.75" 200 RW
21 WINTHER, MIKE PRINCE ALBERT WHL 5' 11.75" 170 C
22 DI GIUSEPPE, PHILLIP U OF MICHIGAN CCHA 5' 11.5" 176 LW
23 KOEKKOEK, SLATER PETERBOROUGH OHL 6' 2.0" 184 D
24 KOSMACHUK, SCOTT GUELPH OHL 5' 11.5" 183 RW
25 PEARSON, TANNER BARRIE OHL 6' 0.0" 195 LW
26 THROWER, DALTON SASKATOON WHL 5' 11.5" 189 D
27 NIEVES, CRISTOVAL KENT SCHOOL HIGH-CT 6' 2.75" 184 C
28 LAUGHTON, SCOTT OSHAWA OHL 6' 0.25" 180 C
29 KERDILES, NICOLAS USA U-18 USHL 6' 1.5" 201 LW
30 MATHESON, MICHAEL DUBUQUE USHL 6' 1.0" 178 D

NA Goalies: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=79332

European skaters: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=79333

RANK PLAYER TEAM LEAGUE HEIGHT WEIGHT POSITION
1 FORSBERG, FILIP LEKSAND SWEDEN-2 6' 2.0" 181 C
2 TERAVAINEN, TEUVO JOKERIT FINLAND 5' 11.0" 165 LW
3 COLLBERG, SEBASTIAN FROLUNDA SWEDEN 5' 11.0" 176 RW
4 LINDHOLM, HAMPUS ROGLE JR. SWE-JR. 6' 2.5" 196 D
5 HERTL, TOMAS SLAVIA CZREP 6' 2.0" 198 C
6 ABERG, PONTUS DJURGARDEN SWEDEN 5' 11.0" 194 LW
7 POKKA, VILLE KARPAT FINLAND 6' 0.0" 196 D
8 BYSTROM, LUDWIG MODO JR. SWE-JR. 6' 0.75" 208 D
9 PROKHORKIN, NIKOLAY CSKA 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 2.5" 191 LW
10 SLEPYSHEV, ANTON NOVOKUZNETSK RUSSIA 6' 2.0" 187 LW
11 VAINONEN, MIKKO HIFK JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 3.0" 205 D
12 LINDELL, ESA JOKERIT JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 3.0" 194 D
13 OSNOVIN, VYACHESLAV CHELYABINSK 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 0.0" 188 C
14 KARLSSON, ERIK FROLUNDA JR. SWE-JR. 5' 11.75" 162 C/LW
15 ANDERSSON, CALLE FARJESTAD JR. SWE-JR. 6' 2.25" 208 D
16 VASILIEV, VALERI SPARTAK 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 1.25" 203 D
17 TIKKINEN, NIKLAS BLUES JR. FINLAND-JR. 5' 11.0" 172 D
18 DJOOS, CHRISTIAN BRYNAS JR. SWE-JR. 5' 11.0" 158 D
19 THORELL, ERIK FARJESTAD SWEDEN 5' 10.0" 185 C
20 GUSEV, NIKITA CSKA 2 RUSSIA-JR. 5' 9.0" 163 LW
21 KRUTIKOV, EVGENI SPARTAK 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 1.0" 174 LW
22 IKONEN, HENRI KALPA JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 0.0" 198 LW
23 WIKSTRAND, MIKAEL MORA SWEDEN-2 6' 1.0" 183 D
24 BOYCE ROTEVALL, JEREMY TIMRA SWEDEN 6' 0.0" 176 LW
25 WALKER, NATHAN VITKOVICE CZREP 5' 9.0" 185 LW
26 NEMEC, ERIK VITKOVICE JR. CZREP-JR. 6' 0.0" 161 C
27 KULMALA, RASMUS TPS JR. FINLAND-JR. 5' 8.0" 160 C
28 TORNKVIST, TOBIAS ROGLE JR. SWE-JR. 6' 3.75" 190 RW
29 RANTAKARI, OTSO JOKERIT JR. FINLAND-JR. 5' 11.0" 165 D
30 LEHTONEN, MIKKO TPS JR. FINLAND-JR. 5' 11.0" 183 D

European goalies: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=79334

[jebs]

Murray was #2 in FC's list too. Maybe he will indeed be BPA for the Oilers no matter where they draft...

[Erik Estrada]

I'm surprised Dumba's so low.

[Epoch]

Dumba sure dropped.

[Auzzie19]

Gally at 4 is a high risk, high reward pick