Oh man, Codemasters F1 games are downright horrible. Or, well, at least 2010 was. Nothing like a real F1 car would handle. You should give F1 Challenge 99-02 by EA a shot. Yeah, it's old, but it is still considered one of the best F1 games out there. Recent F1 modifications by various groups for rFactor are quite good as well.
If having no grip and sluggish controls are an issue for you in GT5, I recommend trying softer tires for the cars, and changing the control settings to more sensitive. It can be done in the same menu where you can turn the driving aids off.
Say, is F1 2011 worth trying? I heard that the qualifying times are still pre-scripted, the races are too easy and the damage is nowhere near realistic. Is it true?
Yeah, I do have F1 Career Challenge 99-02, its just for PS2, so I can't get any mods to it. It's pretty good, I actually played it last week, too bad it isn't more difficult, and sometimes the AI does some pretty dumbass decisions.
As for the control issues, yeah, I've tried that too, I don't know what it is, guess I'm not used to road cars.
As for F1 2011, as far as the difficulty of the AI, I think it's better than it was in F1 2010, but it's not on the level it should be, and no the damage isn't that realistic either. But I don't really think that the qualifying times are pre-scripted, at least I seem to get results from one way to another, Perez was the fastest in Q1 for example, it changes a lot, but I don't think it's pre-scripted, the only thing I would want them to add is make AI drivers make mistakes, like spinning, driving wide and having the technical problems more realistic. If you feel skeptic with it, I would probably loan it from somewhere for a few days and see if you like or not, especially since you didn't seem to like F1 2010, so it's probably not that smart to waste like 50€ just to be disappointed.
Yeah, I do have F1 Career Challenge 99-02, its just for PS2, so I can't get any mods to it. It's pretty good, I actually played it last week, too bad it isn't more difficult, and sometimes the AI does some pretty dumbass decisions.
As for the control issues, yeah, I've tried that too, I don't know what it is, guess I'm not used to road cars.
As for F1 2011, as far as the difficulty of the AI, I think it's better than it was in F1 2010, but it's not on the level it should be, and no the damage isn't that realistic either. But I don't really think that the qualifying times are pre-scripted, at least I seem to get results from one way to another, Perez was the fastest in Q1 for example, it changes a lot, but I don't think it's pre-scripted, the only thing I would want them to add is make AI drivers make mistakes, like spinning, driving wide and having the technical problems more realistic. If you feel skeptic with it, I would probably loan it from somewhere for a few days and see if you like or not, especially since you didn't seem to like F1 2010, so it's probably not that smart to waste like 50€ just to be disappointed.
Okay, so it sounds like something I'd pass. Thanks for the offer though.
What I meant by pre-scripted qualifying times is that the AI would post a time say 1:20, even if it spun on the lap and it was like 1:30 in reality. In other words, the times are not actual times done by the said opponent but times that have been programmed in. It's kinda hard to explain.
What I found irritating also in F1 '10 was the penalties. They were ridiculous. And the AI was very easy on the starts, you can go from 12th or 14th to top 5 easily, but to be fair, it's really an issue all F1 games have - or driving games, for that matter.
What I would love to see is something what TOCA Race Driver did - work your way up from karts into Formula Ford, Formula 3, GP3, GP2 and finally into F1. I guess that'll never happen, but since it's Codemasters doing both games, there is a slim - but really slim - chance.
I just want Codemasters to return to the way they were in late 90s. Toca Touring cars (1&2), 24 Heures Du Mans (for Dreamcast & PS2 IIRC)... those games were awesome. First Colin McRae rallies, too.
Speaking of Colin McRae, I urge everyone to watch this. Even if you don't care about motorsports in general, or rallying, just... watch it.
But yeah, back to the topic... I guess the next F1 game (2012) will be the same. You never know though, Codemasters has been hiring some new programmers... maybe, just maybe they'll actually improve the game significantly, iron out the bugs with proper beta testing and actually give a **** about the customers. I doubt that'll happen though, sadly.
It was quite awesome though. First laps were quite boring, I must say, but I was surprised that I was actually able to keep up and decided "**** it, I'm going for it".
Just wondering: how on earth did you find a 10 lap race on Nordschleife? I've once had 3-lap race there, but that's it...
HUT monthly playoffs tomorrow. I hope I qualify for the elite playoffs but it'll probably be just the pro playoffs again. 15,000 pucks though regardless of which I qualify for if I win.
Okay, so it sounds like something I'd pass. Thanks for the offer though.
What I meant by pre-scripted qualifying times is that the AI would post a time say 1:20, even if it spun on the lap and it was like 1:30 in reality. In other words, the times are not actual times done by the said opponent but times that have been programmed in. It's kinda hard to explain.
What I found irritating also in F1 '10 was the penalties. They were ridiculous. And the AI was very easy on the starts, you can go from 12th or 14th to top 5 easily, but to be fair, it's really an issue all F1 games have - or driving games, for that matter.
What I would love to see is something what TOCA Race Driver did - work your way up from karts into Formula Ford, Formula 3, GP3, GP2 and finally into F1. I guess that'll never happen, but since it's Codemasters doing both games, there is a slim - but really slim - chance.
I just want Codemasters to return to the way they were in late 90s. Toca Touring cars (1&2), 24 Heures Du Mans (for Dreamcast & PS2 IIRC)... those games were awesome. First Colin McRae rallies, too.
Speaking of Colin McRae, I urge everyone to watch this. Even if you don't care about motorsports in general, or rallying, just... watch it.
But yeah, back to the topic... I guess the next F1 game (2012) will be the same. You never know though, Codemasters has been hiring some new programmers... maybe, just maybe they'll actually improve the game significantly, iron out the bugs with proper beta testing and actually give a **** about the customers. I doubt that'll happen though, sadly.
The penalty system has been improved for F1 2011, but it still strikes as sometimes pretty sloppy. The AI still is rather slow, and they sometimes make pretty weird decisions, for example a backmarker blocking you when you're trying to lap him. This race is a pretty good example of what can happen in the game, if you have the time to watch a 40 minute race, I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIfP3NLvzAE
I think it would be cool to have some game where it would have all the major racing series', F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, DTM, Le Mans, maybe even WRC and IRC. Plus all the "little series' as you mentioned, Karting, Formula Ford, GP3, F2, GP2, Formula 3 Euro Series etc. You would have so many decisions and options if your career wouldn't work out in one series for whatever reason. But the licensing would cost ridiculously much, which would bring the games' price that much higher.
F1 2012 is supposed to have a Young Driver Test day where they give you tutorials and challenge you to earn a place in the grid for the season. But my guess would be that if you fail totally, they'll still give you offers from four teams, like Toro Rosso, and the three backmarker teams.
It would probably be cool to have a few GT5 races, but I think I would need to get my rust off, and play it for maybe a month before playing online, but it probably doesn't matter, since I basically suck in it, so I'll be like Narain Karthikeyan last weekend in Malaysia, causing chaos to front-runners with driving so slowly.
It would probably be cool to have a few GT5 races, but I think I would need to get my rust off, and play it for maybe a month before playing online, but it probably doesn't matter, since I basically suck in it, so I'll be like Narain Karthikeyan last weekend in Malaysia, causing chaos to front-runners with driving so slowly.
Funny you should mention that, since Narain actually did nothing wrong (IMO). Button basically ran into him and Vettel could've avoided his accident by simply giving more room.
But yeah, I haven't raced GT5 in ages either. Playing it just now to basically refresh some memories and shoot some pics.
Funny you should mention that, since Narain actually did nothing wrong (IMO). Button basically ran into him and Vettel could've avoided his accident by simply giving more room.
But yeah, I haven't raced GT5 in ages either. Playing it just now to basically refresh some memories and shoot some pics.
Yeah, he didn't do anything wrong in my opinion either, just that his car was so slow that I was the reason Button ran into him, and completely agree with Vettel, and then, Vettel even called Karthikeyan an idiot after the race (which is absolutely ridiculous, Karthikeyan couldn't do anything to avoid the collision). The only reason I said that he caused some chaos was just that, he was in two collisions with drivers who were in top-5 at the time of the collision, if his career was at least a bit faster and had more grip in the corners, I think that Button wouldn't have ran him and Vettel might have understood to stay a bit further away. It's a shame that HRT, Marussia and Caterham are so slow, I'd really like to see every car having a chance to make it into the Q2.
Yeah, he didn't do anything wrong in my opinion either, just that his car was so slow that I was the reason Button ran into him, and completely agree with Vettel, and then, Vettel even called Karthikeyan an idiot after the race (which is absolutely ridiculous, Karthikeyan couldn't do anything to avoid the collision). The only reason I said that he caused some chaos was just that, he was in two collisions with drivers who were in top-5 at the time of the collision, if his career was at least a bit faster and had more grip in the corners, I think that Button wouldn't have ran him and Vettel might have understood to stay a bit further away. It's a shame that HRT, Marussia and Caterham are so slow, I'd really like to see every car having a chance to make it into the Q2.
Technically, every team does have a chance. A slim one, but there is a chance. And I think too much weight is being placed on qualifying these days - and well, always. Anything can happen in a race. Remember when Kimi Räikkönen drove up from 17th place in Suzuka 2005 to win the race in last lap? How about John Watson in 1983 when he started 22nd and won the race after fighting with names such as Niki Lauda (his team mate who started 23rd), Keijo "Keke" Rosberg, Alain Prost and Nelson Piquet among others. Great stuff. Keke also made an awesome save in the first lap.
Of course, modern races often tend to be quite boring and usually the winner is one of the top 3 starters, but that has surprisingly changed, especially this season. Granted, it's not like Heikki Kovalainen will win in Monaco, or Narain Karthikeyan suddenly deciding that he's Juan-Manuel Fangio re-incarnated and kicking ass but I don't see Perez winning a race after last weeks performance all that unlikely to be honest. It just takes a bit of bad luck from the McLarens, the Red Bulls and others but it's definitely possible. Mercedes (and especially Nico Rosberg) continue to disappoint me however. They seem to have traded race craft for qualifying speed, so basically what we're seeing is the return of "Trulli trains" this year. Not good. I would've thought a genius like Ross Brawn undeniably is could do better. Oh well.
Overall, I'm looking for an interesting season. Kimi has shaken his rust very well, but Grosjean really surprised me that he's not much off the pace. He does need to improve his race craft though, still way too wild. Race can't be won in a first corner, but it sure as hell can be lost there (Spa 1998).
Yeah, I was wondering it myself, too. Turns out these guys were planning it in advance, and they weren't supposed to take "outsiders" in.
Usually the online racing is... quite bad in GT5. That's why it stood out as a memorable event.
We should do GT5 some day with the people from this board as it seems some guys have the game.
Well, I've have some nice online races lately, especially with some Finnish guys. It's just so much about the other drivers; one idiot can totally ruin the whole race, especially in a narrow circuit like Nordschleife. Anyway, I'd really like to have a race someday, maybe we three (if there isn't anyone else) could squeeze into some race, so there would be more competition.
And about the Karthikeyan thing... I agree with both of you, Vettel could've easily avoided the collision.
Well, I've have some nice online races lately, especially with some Finnish guys. It's just so much about the other drivers; one idiot can totally ruin the whole race, especially in a narrow circuit like Nordschleife. Anyway, I'd really like to have a race someday, maybe we three (if there isn't anyone else) could squeeze into some race, so there would be more competition.
Yeah, but that's motor racing. Sure, when competitive level improves, so will the driving standards, but you can see people doing stupid mistakes even in F1 level, and those are arguably the best racing drivers in the world. You don't even want to look at a touring car race - those guys are ****ing insane.
Should we try someday next week? I don't really have the time to do it today, since I'm going out in 30 minutes to play some floorball with my friends and then I have to study from religion exam which is tomorrow. The good thing about next week, is that I have Tuesday off, as well as the Good Friday, obviously.
Should we try someday next week? I don't really have the time to do it today, since I'm going out in 30 minutes to play some floorball with my friends and then I have to study from religion exam which is tomorrow. The good thing about next week, is that I have Tuesday off, as well as the Good Friday, obviously.
Plus I still have to find my GT5 from somewhere.
Damn, I'd like to do some floorball as well. Haven't done it in a long, long time. It's an awesome sport though. It's hard to find any teams and my mates live too far away. And you'd need a proper space to do it in, too.
Damn, I'd like to do some floorball as well. Haven't done it in a long, long time. It's an awesome sport though. It's hard to find any teams and my mates live too far away. And you'd need a proper space to do it in, too.
But yeah, Tuesday's fine for me.
Would you be fine around, say 3PM-5PM on Tuesday? Of course there might very well be some changes, since my brother has Tuesday off too, and I never know what he's up to.
Also, are we going to race with cars that we have in our collection? Since, I may have deleted my old profile for GT5 so I may need to start from scratch with collecting cars.
Would you be fine around, say 3PM-5PM on Tuesday? Of course there might very well be some changes, since my brother has Tuesday off too, and I never know what he's up to.
Also, are we going to race with cars that we have in our collection? Since, I may have deleted my old profile for GT5 so I may need to start from scratch with collecting cars.
Up to you. I'd prefer shuffle racing, so that everyone has an equal chance of winning and the car depends on your position in the previous race. Something like, put the cap on 450PP and shuffle 'em? Track voting of course.
Up to you. I'd prefer shuffle racing, so that everyone has an equal chance of winning and the car depends on your position in the previous race. Something like, put the cap on 450PP and shuffle 'em? Track voting of course.
HUT monthly playoffs tomorrow. I hope I qualify for the elite playoffs but it'll probably be just the pro playoffs again. 15,000 pucks though regardless of which I qualify for if I win.
The HUT leaderboards are a complete joke. It has never mattered what my monthly record was (usually around .500) and I would always toggle up on the boards to see people rated higher than me who had a record of 0-1 or 0-2.
Since when is a record of 0-2 better than a record of 4-3????
I'm strongly considering not even getting NHL 13 unless some drastic changes take place
The HUT leaderboards are a complete joke. It has never mattered what my monthly record was (usually around .500) and I would always toggle up on the boards to see people rated higher than me who had a record of 0-1 or 0-2.
Since when is a record of 0-2 better than a record of 4-3????
I'm strongly considering not even getting NHL 13 unless some drastic changes take place
It's probably based on some funky QoC multiplier. If you only play one game and get roflstomped by the best team in the world, that counts as being better than narrowly edging out some terrid with half 60 rating players.
The idea is right if you have a large enough sample size, but if people are only playing 2-3 games, it'll throw things off bad.
Argh, started a new career in F1 2011 with Williams, I had time for one single lap, and I was 14th. After the first sector, I was behind .092 seconds, after second, .084, I think that I'm gonna fly in the last sector, since it's my best sector of the three. I go through the chicane. KERS and DRS in use. Suddenly I feel something's wrong, engine doesn't run well..... no more fuel in the car...... So yeah, now I need to start from the 14th place in the grid. Not too bad, but I really wanted to start in the top-10.
The HUT leaderboards are a complete joke. It has never mattered what my monthly record was (usually around .500) and I would always toggle up on the boards to see people rated higher than me who had a record of 0-1 or 0-2.
Since when is a record of 0-2 better than a record of 4-3????
I'm strongly considering not even getting NHL 13 unless some drastic changes take place
Yeah I just gave up on that crap mode within like a week of its introduction. Still worth getting the game even if you only play the other modes.
Argh, started a new career in F1 2011 with Williams, I had time for one single lap, and I was 14th. After the first sector, I was behind .092 seconds, after second, .084, I think that I'm gonna fly in the last sector, since it's my best sector of the three. I go through the chicane. KERS and DRS in use. Suddenly I feel something's wrong, engine doesn't run well..... no more fuel in the car...... So yeah, now I need to start from the 14th place in the grid. Not too bad, but I really wanted to start in the top-10.
That sucks man. Happened to me once or twice in GP3 but in a race when I thought I could stretch one more lap out of the tank and end up retiring in a gravel trap in Blanchimont (the last, fast left in Spa before the Bus Stop chicane/pit entrance).
So I found my GT5, but I discovered a big scratch in it. I tried running it in the PS3, but it didn't read the game. So I guess I won't be able to play tomorrow...
