comparing the NHL series adding the AHL to Madden adding the CFL is night and day. All you have to do their is add logos and players. For the CFL thing to work they have to rework the game engine completely (different size field, different rules, etc.).
There is not even close to enough demand to begin working on something like this. Absolutely no one in the US would buy the Madden game because of this (if they weren't buying it before). It would obviously sell better in Canada, but then you are probably talking about sales increasing in the thousands, which is inconsequential to Madden.
No. The NFL and EA couldn't care less about the CFL and its not worth the time, money, effort and disk space to do it.
Also The CHL in NHL 12 at least has affiliation as it pertains to rights to and development of players. The NFL has nothing to do with the NFL at all other than the fact sometimes players cross over. But that aint a "call up" process. Add in the fact its a completely different set of rules.
And like someone else said you'd might as well include the AFL and UFL while your at it.
Maybe a cheap CFL only game as a DLC is possible but no need to include it in Madden. I believe EA came out with an AFL game in like 05 and it flopped miserably.
No. The NFL and EA couldn't care less about the CFL and its not worth the time, money, effort and disk space to do it.
Also The CHL in NHL 12 at least has affiliation as it pertains to rights to and development of players. The NFL has nothing to do with the NFL at all other than the fact sometimes players cross over. But that aint a "call up" process. Add in the fact its a completely different set of rules.
And like someone else said you'd might as well include the AFL and UFL while your at it.
Maybe a cheap CFL only game as a DLC is possible but no need to include it in Madden. I believe EA came out with an AFL game in like 05 and it flopped miserably.
The difference with the ALF though, is there is a 35 million people market where the CFL is the number 2 spectator sport
They would be better off doing Aussie Rules Football since it's the #1 (by that, I mean not a distant #2 in a small market to begin with) spectator sport in a similar sized market.
Different games. 100 yard field vs 110 yard field. The rules are different. Somehow if you miss a fg you still get a point if the guy who gets the missed kick downs it.
The CFL vs. NFL gameplay wouldn't be hard at all, I'm not sure why people think that. Different set of rules, pretty simple. Considering how much you can tinker with rules in any other game, can't see that being too hard to do. Same thing with field size, not an issue.
And for those saying that the AHL/international leagues made a huge difference in the NHL series', or that people relate to it, no they don't. It was just a cheap way to have a big new feature without actually having to do it yourself. Exact same situation here, but makes even more sense because Madden changes even less from year to year than NHL does. It's not about sales, it's about being a big enough change(with other ones, obvs) to convince people it's not the same game as last year. Adding a whole new league does that.
It's funny that the pro-CFL people actually seem more realistic in this discussion. It isn't like before where people wanted an entire CFL game, we see it for what it is: a cheap marketing ploy that's easier than tinkering with the game itself or developing an expensive new feature. I don't know how people have convinced themselves it would be too difficult to do, sounds like people who just don't like the league and wouldn't want it to have it's day, which is kind of weird.
Yes and No
No to stand alone Madden CFL but
Yes to Add CFL teams to Madden NFL game. Allow CFL teams to play against each other, plus against NFL teams. You choose CFL/NFL rules. Stadiums etc.
Even do CFL allstars against NFL Allstars. Give the Americans another Us vs. Them scenerio. They love that ****.
Wait, wasn't this already an option in an old Madden game anyway? Like Madden 08? Back when the CFL/NFL had that transfer agreement, I think it was a mode you could play.
As one who grew up in the Madden era though I can tell you i've grown quite bored with the game. Doesn't change much year to year anymore and they took away turbo.
Madden neds a new paint job of sorts but i'm not sure this is it.
I would like to see them add a career option and have things like a UFL or AFL and work your way towards an NFL job. They just need to explore some new ideas. In the last 5-10 years the game really hasn't changed all that much.
Madden neds a new paint job of sorts but i'm not sure this is it.
I would like to see them add a career option and have things like a UFL or AFL and work your way towards an NFL job. They just need to explore some new ideas. In the last 5-10 years the game really hasn't changed all that much.
You can do exactly that, but with the CFL. In fact, that's also ten times more realistic. Don't know why they'd add the Arena league(does it even exist anymore?) or UFL, anyone who would be attracted by that addition would probably still be good with it if it was the CFL, except then sales would greatly increase in Canada. Or add all of them, because really, they're all very, very cheap. Just that the CFL is easily the best league of the three.
But its not even realistic, how often does that happen? You would start as a scout or other low-level exec position to make that mode realistic.
If anything, it tends to go the other way. Marc Trestman, for instance, was once a highly-regarded NFL coaching prospect. At age 39, he was named OC of the 49ers, a position that at the time might have been the most valuable assistant coaching job in the NFL. He was given the reigns to the league's most powerful offense, which happened to be coming off a historically dominant season. Trestman had the ability to be a great playcaller, but he had trouble with constantly being compared to the three men that ran the 49er offense prior to him (Mike Shanahan, Mike Holmgren, Bill Walsh). When Trestman's offense was struggling in 1996, Eddie Debartolo made the extraordinary move of bringing Walsh back as an offensive consultant and putting him in the coaches box next to Trestman so that he could give "suggestions." Walsh was always very careful to minimalize his influence and give any and all credit to Trestman, but it was pretty sure that Trestman's confidence was shot. I don't think he ever recovered. He's gone on to have a pretty damn good CFL career, though, and I've always wondered why he hasn't come back to the NFL.
If anything, it tends to go the other way. Marc Trestman, for instance, was once a highly-regarded NFL coaching prospect. At age 39, he was named OC of the 49ers, a position that at the time might have been the most valuable assistant coaching job in the NFL. He was given the reigns to the league's most powerful offense, which happened to be coming off a historically dominant season. Trestman had the ability to be a great playcaller, but he had trouble with constantly being compared to the three men that ran the 49er offense prior to him (Mike Shanahan, Mike Holmgren, Bill Walsh). When Trestman's offense was struggling in 1996, Eddie Debartolo made the extraordinary move of bringing Walsh back as an offensive consultant and putting him in the coaches box next to Trestman so that he could give "suggestions." Walsh was always very careful to minimalize his influence and give any and all credit to Trestman, but it was pretty sure that Trestman's confidence was shot. I don't think he ever recovered. He's gone on to have a pretty damn good CFL career, though, and I've always wondered why he hasn't come back to the NFL.
Trestman's actually not even been out of the NFL that long, only 8 years or so. He seemed to do a pretty decent job after San Fran, too. Also, I think he likes it a lot in Montreal, I think there have been offers for interviews, but he hasn't taken them up. I remember he was rumored for the Panthers OC last year.
As for it not being realistic, for coaches, perhaps not so much, but it's not uncommon for executives to cut their teeth in the CFL. Currently Ryan Grigson and Thomas Dimitroff worked in the CFL, as did Bill Polian. Montreal's Jim Popp also was interviewed for the Colts job. I'm sure there are others as well, those are just off the top of my head. Not common, but if one were to work their way up in an executive-type role, it's a logical place to start, especially in a video game where you can hardly be a full-time scout or even scouting director.
Different games. 100 yard field vs 110 yard field. The rules are different. Somehow if you miss a fg you still get a point if the guy who gets the missed kick downs it.
Too much work for the Madden games.
that fg rule is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard of
Yes and No
No to stand alone Madden CFL but
Yes to Add CFL teams to Madden NFL game. Allow CFL teams to play against each other, plus against NFL teams. You choose CFL/NFL rules. Stadiums etc.
Even do CFL allstars against NFL Allstars. Give the Americans another Us vs. Them scenerio. They love that ****.
having a CFL team play an NFL team in Madden would probably be popular in Canada, but I doubt many Americans would care that much. it's like having an AHL team play an NHL team in NHL 12. just like people want to watch the best players, they want to play with the best players too. I've never played Madden with anyone who wanted to have an NFL Europe team play an NFL team. no one would know any of the CFL all stars. having the CFL in Madden is a fun idea, but it kinda seems like a waste of time
and it seems like Canadians are the ones who make it more of an us vs them thing with regards to the CFL and NFL
They would be better off doing Aussie Rules Football since it's the #1 (by that, I mean not a distant #2 in a small market to begin with) spectator sport in a similar sized market.
I think last year there was an AFL game released. It's not terrible either.
Time and money that could be better spent on improving the franchise mode in Madden which would probably result in much more purchases than adding the CFL would.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just got to ask...
Why do so many people think that they shouldn't add the CFL to the Madden series because "there is a very limited demand for CFL video game football", when Madden had freakin' NFL Europe in the games at a time?
I know NFL Europe was backed by the NFL, hence why it was in the game, but wasn't even capable of surviving (ceased in 2007), while the CFL actually has a rich history.
Yes, the Madden series is doing very well as it is, but in business it's all about making MORE money.
Adding the CFL to a game without taking anything away from it or upping it's price is only going to make people who have never bought the game actually buy it.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just got to ask...
Why do so many people think that they shouldn't add the CFL to the Madden series because "there is a very limited demand for CFL video game football", when Madden had freakin' NFL Europe in the games at a time?
I know NFL Europe was backed by the NFL, hence why it was in the game, but wasn't even capable of surviving (ceased in 2007), while the CFL actually has a rich history.
Yes, the Madden series is doing very well as it is, but in business it's all about making MORE money.
Adding the CFL to a game without taking anything away from it or upping it's price is only going to make people who have never bought the game actually buy it.
comparing the NHL series adding the AHL to Madden adding the CFL is night and day. All you have to do their is add logos and players. For the CFL thing to work they have to rework the game engine completely (different size field, different rules, etc.). 
