HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Nashville Predators
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

The departed: how the Preds who left this offseason are doing

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-22-2011, 12:52 AM
  #1
Neal Before Zod
Registered User
 
Neal Before Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 1,662
vCash: 500
The departed: how the Preds who left this offseason are doing

We can update this as the season goes...but I figured we should take a look at how last year's Preds are doing on other teams...and compare that to how well their replacements are faring now.

The departed:

Marcel Goc - C - Florida - 17 GP - 2G - 0A - 2P - even - 2 PIM - 16:53 ATOI

Joel Ward - RW - Washington - 18 GP - 4G - 3A - 7P - +4 - 6 PIM - 14:13 ATOI

Steve Sullivan - LW - Pittsburgh - 20 GP - 1G - 7A - 8P - (-1) - 4 PIM - 17:28 ATOI

J.P. Dumont - LW - (no team, no stats)

Shane O'Brien - D - Colorado - 20 GP - 0G - 7A - 7P - +2 - 33 PIM - 19:11 ATOI

Cody Franson - D - Toronto - 6 GP - 1G - 2A - 3P - (-3) - 2 PIM - 17:08 ATOI

**Matthew Lombardi - C - Toronto - 19 GP - 2G - 4A - 6P - (-7) - 2 PIM - 13:10 ATOI


The replacements:

Craig Smith - C - 19 GP - 7G - 8A - 15P - (-1) - 12 PIM - 15:34 ATOI

Matt Halischuk - RW - 19 GP - 5G - 2A - 7P - +3 - 18 PIM - 13:46 ATOI

Blake Geoffrion - LW - 18 GP - 0G - 2A - 2P - even - 13 PIM - 10:41 ATOI

Niclas Bergfors - RW - 11 GP - 1G - 1A - 2P - (-2) - 2 PIM - 8:04 ATOI

Jonathon Blum - D - 19 GP - 1G - 2A - 3P - (-9) - 4 PIM - 18:24 ATOI

Jack Hillen - D - 17 GP - 0G - 3A - 3P - +1 - 12 PIM - 12:31 ATOI

**Mike Fisher - C - 11 GP - 3G - 6A - 9P - even - 2 PIM 18:44 ATOI

**Obviously Lombardi was injured for 98% of last season...essentially Mike Fisher is his replacement. Fisher, being a vet, doesn't exactly fit in with the "out with the old, in with the new" that applies to most of this. Nonetheless, he's still sort of a "new" Pred.



Stats don't tell the complete story, of course, but they give you an idea of where those guys stand on the other teams. I've really only seen Sully and Wardo in game action. Both seem to have found their spots on those teams, and I certainly wish them well (when they aren't playing us ). Sully had some injury issues, but he looks good this year. I hated to let Ward go, but he was getting too expensive for what he brings for us. I actually miss SOB, too. Hillen is doing pretty well, but I think SOB would've been a better option to keep.

How do you think the replacements have done? (Obviously Smith has been awesome...) Did the Preds make good moves by letting some of these guys go or trading them?

Neal Before Zod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 12:56 AM
  #2
Soundgarden
Registered User
 
Soundgarden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Spring Hill, TN
Country: United States
Posts: 6,439
vCash: 500
Man, Halischuk's gone under the radar a little, it totally doesn't seem like he has 5 goals all ready.

Soundgarden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 01:02 AM
  #3
cleangene
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Beautiful Bellevue
Posts: 967
vCash: 500
Last Saturday's display by our weaker defensive unit made me miss S.O.B. more and more.

cleangene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 01:25 AM
  #4
Neal Before Zod
Registered User
 
Neal Before Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 1,662
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundgarden View Post
Man, Halischuk's gone under the radar a little, it totally doesn't seem like he has 5 goals all ready.
Yeah, I was surprised the number was 5, too. Already surpassed last season. A lot of that has been him being at the right place at the right time....but that just goes to credit the solid play he's doing this year. Geoffrion has been a bit disappointing so far, but Halischuk is playing as solidly as you could ask for from a young grinder. He seems to play well regardless of what line he is on. He might well develop into a good glue guy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cleangene View Post
Last Saturday's display by our weaker defensive unit made me miss S.O.B. more and more.
Agreed. I think it may have been a little premature to let him go...especially since Franson ended up getting traded.

Blum has a bright future, but he's looking a lot more like a rookie this year than last. He really needs a steady veteran presence that isn't named Kevin Klein.

In a hindsight is 20/20 world, I would've resigned SOB and Sully. Despite the bargain basement contract, Bergfors really hasn't done anything for us. Sully isn't as durable as he used to be, but he looks great so far this year. He would be an asset on the PP and PK, as usual, and could log the minutes that some of our younger forwards can't provide.

SOB would be a good physical presence to round out Blum. He's not a great defenseman, but he's solid, and he can talk $#!& to the other team and clear their forwards from in front of the net. Plus he was a fun locker room presence. Every team needs a prankster.

Neal Before Zod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 03:37 AM
  #5
Everlong
-
 
Everlong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 27,414
vCash: 500
Ward has meshed well as a depth guy in Washington. Still overpaid I feel though.

Sullivan has had some bad puck luck recently. He could easily have 5-6 goals. I hope he makes it to the post-season and likely will with the Pens.

Dumont signed with a Swiss team I beleive. Or he got an offer. I'll have to double check that one.

I'll be honest, I still miss SOB. He's even putting up some points. I won't complain though, we're winning.

Everlong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 11:24 AM
  #6
K3V1N
Registered User
 
K3V1N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bowling Green, Ky.
Country: United States
Posts: 55
vCash: 500
Thanks for the stats of "comparison!"

K3V1N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 11:32 AM
  #7
codeyh
HFB Partner
 
codeyh's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cellblock 303
Country: United States
Posts: 463
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to codeyh
J.P. is playing for Bern in Switzerland

In 8 GP he has 2 goals, 2 assists and 2 PIMs.

(credit: elite prospects)

codeyh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 11:45 AM
  #8
Legionnaire11
Registered User
 
Legionnaire11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hendersonville
Country: United States
Posts: 2,750
vCash: 500
He should be a point-per-game player in Bern... looks like Poile made the right decision.

Legionnaire11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 01:02 PM
  #9
predfan24
Registered User
 
predfan24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,195
vCash: 500
I've watched Sully in a few Pitt games and have not been impressed. He looks just like he did last year. Old, slower, not willing to battle to win a puck etc. 8 points in 20 games is not that impressive when your playing with Malkin and Neal.

predfan24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-22-2011, 01:26 PM
  #10
Neal Before Zod
Registered User
 
Neal Before Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 1,662
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by predfan24 View Post
I've watched Sully in a few Pitt games and have not been impressed. He looks just like he did last year. Old, slower, not willing to battle to win a puck etc. 8 points in 20 games is not that impressive when your playing with Malkin and Neal.
He started off pretty slow, but lately I think he's stepped it up a notch. The players around him are getting used to his tendencies. He scored on a beautiful redirect from Malkin last night, so he actually has 2 goals.

Anyways...I'm not saying it was the wrong thing to do to let Sully go...because the big question mark was 'can he play a full season?' Plus, our prospect list was getting pretty deep, and I think Poile decided it's sink or swim time for a few of these guts.

I think we'll be better off in the long run with the route we took...but I do miss some of what those guys brought to the table.

Neal Before Zod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-04-2012, 09:47 PM
  #11
Neal Before Zod
Registered User
 
Neal Before Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 1,662
vCash: 500
Update:

The departed:

Marcel Goc - C - Florida - 40 GP - 7G - 11A - 18P - +3 - 6 PIM - 17:25 ATOI

Joel Ward - RW - Washington - 63 GP - 6G - 11A - 17P - +8 - 20 PIM - 12:44 ATOI

Steve Sullivan - LW - Pittsburgh - 64 GP - 13G - 24A - 37P - (-5) - 14 PIM - 15:37 ATOI

J.P. Dumont - LW - (no team, no stats)

Shane O'Brien - D - Colorado - 61 GP - 2G - 12A - 14P - (-1) - 87 PIM - 19:14 ATOI

Cody Franson - D - Toronto - 48 GP - 4G - 16A - 20P - (-2) - 20 PIM - 16:29 ATOI

**Matthew Lombardi - C - Toronto - 46 GP - 7G - 7A - 14P - (-13) - 8 PIM - 13:09 ATOI


The replacements:

Craig Smith - C - 63 GP - 12G - 20A - 32P - (-10) - 28 PIM - 14:37 ATOI

Matt Halischuk - RW - 62 GP - 12G - 10A - 22P - +9 - 25 PIM - 11:15 ATOI

X Blake Geoffrion - LW - 22 GP - 0G - 3A - 3P - (-2) - 17 PIM - 10:45 ATOI

Y Niclas Bergfors - RW - 11 GP - 1G - 1A - 2P - (-2) - 2 PIM - 8:04 ATOI

Z Jonathon Blum - D - 33 GP - 3G - 4A - 7P - (-14) - 6 PIM - 17:56 ATOI

Jack Hillen - D - 49 GP - 2G - 4A - 6P - +6 - 18 PIM - 13:45 ATOI

**Mike Fisher - C - 56 GP - 19G - 20A - 39P - even - 2 PIM - 19:11 ATOI


X - sent down, then traded to Montreal, replaced by Gabriel Bourque

Y - excommunicated, replaced by Brandon Yip

Z - sent down, replaced by Roman Josi

Gabriel Bourque - LW - 27 GP - 4G - 6A - 10P - +1 - 4 PIM - 13:17 ATOI

Brandon Yip - RW - 13 GP - 1G - 2A - 3P - +3 - 12 PIM - 10:42 ATOI

Roman Josi - D - 44 GP - 4G - 9A - 13P - (-6) - 14 PIM - 18:15 ATOI

Neal Before Zod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-04-2012, 10:12 PM
  #12
AdmiralsFan24
Registered User
 
AdmiralsFan24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Country: United States
Posts: 5,182
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to AdmiralsFan24
I completely forgot Bergfors was ever on this team until this was brought back up.

AdmiralsFan24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-04-2012, 10:21 PM
  #13
worstfaceoffmanever
These Snacks Are Odd
 
worstfaceoffmanever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 12,462
vCash: 500
Dumont plays for SC Bern. He had 8 goals and 31 points in 31 games, and has two goals and an assist in their first two playoff games against Kloten.

worstfaceoffmanever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-04-2012, 10:25 PM
  #14
Top 6 Spaling
Registered User
 
Top 6 Spaling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Smashville
Country: United States
Posts: 10,388
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralsFan24 View Post
I completely forgot Bergfors was ever on this team until this was brought back up.
Trust me, we all want to forget

Top 6 Spaling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-04-2012, 11:24 PM
  #15
Soundgarden
Registered User
 
Soundgarden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Spring Hill, TN
Country: United States
Posts: 6,439
vCash: 500
Bergfors is no Forsberg I tell ya.

Soundgarden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 01:12 AM
  #16
Everlong
-
 
Everlong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 27,414
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundgarden View Post
Bergfors is no Forsberg I tell ya.

Everlong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 10:03 AM
  #17
SavageSteve
Registered User
 
SavageSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Country: United States
Posts: 449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralsFan24 View Post
I completely forgot Bergfors was ever on this team until this was brought back up.
He was on this months calendar photo from the Players with their Dogs calendars that were giveaways a few months ago. It's been interesting to see who's been moved since that was made!!

SavageSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 02:50 PM
  #18
ILikeItILoveIt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 202
vCash: 500
Would you take anyone of them back right now, with their current salaries, and displace anyone on our current roster?

I honestly wouldn't.

ILikeItILoveIt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 02:57 PM
  #19
Shea Weber
Registered User
 
Shea Weber's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 607
vCash: 500
Good thread.

update stats?

Shea Weber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 02:58 PM
  #20
worstfaceoffmanever
These Snacks Are Odd
 
worstfaceoffmanever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 12,462
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundgarden View Post
Bergfors is no Forsberg I tell ya.
Cannot unsee.

worstfaceoffmanever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 03:07 PM
  #21
PredsV82
Puckaroni and cheese
 
PredsV82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Outside
Country: Scotland
Posts: 13,776
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILikeItILoveIt View Post
Would you take anyone of them back right now, with their current salaries, and displace anyone on our current roster?

I honestly wouldn't.
as much as I have said(and still believe) that the Franson trade wasnt a bad one, I'd probably take Cody over Hillen(barely) and I might even take SOB over Cube, if he's not taking as many stupid penalties.. but its not enough of a difference to be considered a bad move

and dont you know Washington is thinking "wtf were we thinking?" with Wards contract...

PredsV82 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 03:39 PM
  #22
token grinder
formerly sirryan189
 
token grinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Franklin
Country: United States
Posts: 4,179
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PredsV82 View Post
as much as I have said(and still believe) that the Franson trade wasnt a bad one, I'd probably take Cody over Hillen(barely) and I might even take SOB over Cube, if he's not taking as many stupid penalties.. but its not enough of a difference to be considered a bad move

and dont you know Washington is thinking "wtf were we thinking?" with Wards contract...
flip side is if we had SOB, we wouldn't have Gill, and with Franson, probably no Josi. this is assuming that with Franson our D would have been 6, 20, 8, 51, gill/sob Franson.

token grinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
  #23
Paranoid Android
ERMAHGERD
 
Paranoid Android's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: CO
Posts: 11,633
vCash: 500
I'd like to have Franson back of course, but if we had to take Lombardi back with him? Enjoy Toronto Cody.

Paranoid Android is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2012, 05:32 PM
  #24
TMI
Mod Supervisor
 
TMI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 44,716
vCash: 500
What was the Ward/SK bet again?

TMI is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-03-2012, 05:40 PM
  #25
BigFatCat999
I love GoOoOlD
 
BigFatCat999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Campbell, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 10,141
vCash: 500
Quick update on this. Matt Lombardi is at game #59 for the season.

Blake Geoffrion is on the Canadians, wearing #57 and has played 10 games

BigFatCat999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:13 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.