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02-17-2006, 01:33 AM
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1980 Olympic question

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...022241980.html

Checking out this site, I see that the 1980 team played about 65 games that year. Now I know that they didn't play 65 games in the Olympics so who were most of these games played against?

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...022241980.html

Checking out this site, I see that the 1980 team played about 65 games that year. Now I know that they didn't play 65 games in the Olympics so who were most of these games played against?
They played all kinds of "warmup" games, if you will. They played quite a few games against other countries national teams. They played college teams, they played minor league all star teams, etc, etc....

All exhibition games pretty much.

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The 80 Olympic team played here in Portland against the AHL's old Maine Mariners (then philly's farm team).

The team was so lightly regarded that only 3500 people showed up to watch it.

The low response was indicative not only of the general publics regard for American Olympic hockey efforts at the time, but also the low opinion that most had for US college hockey.

Despite the political drama assigned to the gold medal win, the real off ice victory was demonstrating to the general public (and to the NHL) just how solid American college hockey had become.

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This has nothing to do with your question but some may be interested in the 1972 U.S. Olympic team - the subject of a new book. A link to a review is below. I have seen a couple of TV news stories in recent days about them:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...6_striking.php

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The 1980 U.S. hockey team played a total of 61 pre-Olympic games, beginning in Europe on Sept. 3, 1979 and ending Feb. 9, 1980 at MSG in New York. The U.S. team played their home pre-Olympic games at the Met Center in Bloomington, MN. The team finished with a record of 42 wins, 16 losses and 3 ties. Here is a list of the results:

#1...Road (W) USA 8:1 Holland National team...Sept. 3, 1979
#2...Road (W) USA 11:4 Holland National team..Sept. 5, 1979
#3...Road (L) Reipas (Finland) 2:1 USA
#4...Road (W) USA 4:1 Saipa (Finland)
#5...Road (W) USA 6:0 Sapko (Finland)
#6...Road (W) USA 5:4 Karpat (Finland)
#7...Road (W) USA 5:3 Lukko (Finland)
#8...Road (L) Jokerit (Finland) 4:1 USA...Sept. 14, 1979
#9...Road (T) USA 3:3 Norway National team...Sept. 17, 1979
#10..Road (W) USA 9:0 Norway National team...Sept. 18, 1979
#11..Home (L) Minnesota North Stars 4:2 USA...Sept. 29, 1979
#12..Road (L) St. Louis Blues 9:1 USA
#13..Road (L) Atlanta Flames 6:1 USA
#14..Road (L) Washington Capitals 5:4 USA
#15..Road (W) USA 4:2 Maine Mariners
#16..Road (W) USA 7:2 Canada National team
#17..Home (W) USA 6:0 Canada National team
#18..Road (W) USA 7:5 Salt Lake City
#19..Road (W) USA 10:1 Colorado College
#20..Home (W) USA 4:0 Univ. Minn-Duluth (played in Eveleth, MN)
#21..Home (W) USA 8:2 Univ. of Minnesota
#22..Road (W) USA 1:0 Indianapolis
#23..Road (W) USA 15:0 Flint Generals
#24..Home (W) USA 5:2 Birmingham
#25..Road (L) Houston 4:3 USA
#26..Road (W) USA 6:4 Birmingham
#27..Road (W) USA 5:0 Harvard
#28..Road (W) USA 9:3 RPI
#29..Road (W) USA 3:2 Cincinnati
#30..Home (W) USA 6:4 Salt Lake City
#31..Road (L) Canada National team 7:6 USA
#32..Road (L) Canada National team 6:2 USA
#33..Road (L) Canada National team 4:3 USA
#34..Home (L) Canada National team 2:1 USA
#35..Home (W) USA 6:1 Cincinnati
#36..Road (W) USA 6:1 Univ. of North Dakota
#37..Home (W) USA 5:3 Oklahoma City
#38..Road (W) USA 6:1 Yale
#39..Road (L) Adirondack 1:0 USA
#40..Road (W) USA 4:2 Sweden (pre-Olympic "B team" tourny in Lake Placid)
#41..Road (W) USA 3:1 Canada (pre-Olympic "B team" tourny in Lake Placid)
#42..Road (W) USA 3:0 Czechoslovakia (pre-Olympic "B team" tourny-Lake Placid)
#43..Road (L) USA 5:3 Soviet Union (pre-Olympic "B team tourny-Lake Placid)
#44..Road (W) USA 4:2 Gorki Torpedo
#45..Road (W) USA 5:1 Gorki Torpedo
#46..Home (W) USA 10:3 Gorki Torpedo
#47..Road (T) USA 2:2 Indianapolis
#48..Road (L) Gorki Torpedo 3:2 USA
#49..Road (W) USA 4:3 Oklahoma City
#50..Road (W) USA 5:2 Tulsa
#51..Road (W) USA 5:3 Houston
#52..Road (W) USA 7:4 Tulsa
#53..Home (W) USA 6:2 Univ. of Wisconsin
#54..Road (L) Fort Worth 4:3 USA
#55..Road (L) USA 4:3 Dallas
#56..Home (T) USA 4:4 IHL ALL-STARS
#57..Road (W) USA 4:2 Univ. of Wisconsin
#58..Road (L) Fort Worth 5:3 USA
#59..Home (W) USA 10:6 Dallas
#60..Road (W) USA 10:0 Warroad Lakers
#61..Home (L) Soviet Union 10:3 USA (at Madison Square Garden, NY)

1979-80 U.S. Olympic Team (Pre-Olympic & Olympic Games Statistics)

# Player Name GP G A Pts PIM
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#10 Mark Johnson.................................. 60 38 54 92 31
# 7 Rob McClanahan................................ 63 34 36 70 38
#11 Steve Christoff............................... 64 37 27 64 30
# 9 Neal Broten................................... 62 27 31 58 32
#16 Mark Pavelich................................. 60 16 36 52 14
# 8 Dave Silk..................................... 56 12 36 48 32
#21 Mike Eruzione................................. 50 21 25 46 22
#27 Phil Verchota................................. 61 19 24 43 56
#25 William "Buzz" Schneider...................... 62 27 15 42 48
#19 Eric Strobel.................................. 56 15 26 41 24
#23 Dave Christian................................ 66 10 28 38 30
#28 John Harrington............................... 58 14 23 37 16
#17 Jack O'Callahan............................... 55 7 30 37 85
# 5 Mike Ramsey................................... 63 11 24 35 63
# 6 Bill Baker.................................... 60 5 25 30 74
#14 Ralph Cox..................................... 31 13 13 26 27
# 3 Ken Morrow.................................... 63 5 20 25 12
#20 Bob Suter..................................... 38 7 11 18 67
#12 Jack Hughes................................... 49 3 15 18 62
#15 Mark Wells.................................... 29 9 7 16 2
# 2 Les Auge...................................... 29 0 14 14 14
# 4 Gary Ross..................................... 12 1 6 7 4
#22 Dave Delich................................... 13 4 2 6 4
#18 Tim Harrer.................................... 4 1 3 4 0
#30 Jim Craig (G)................................. 48 0 3 3 28
# 1 Steve Janaszak (G)............................ 17 0 1 1 0
#31 Bruce Horsch (G).............................. 9 0 0 0 0
Bench penalty minutes............................ 8
Totals: 68 gp, 336 goals, 535 assists, 871 points, 823 pim

Goaltenders Statistics (Pre-Olympic games)

Jim Craig...........41 gp...2371 mins...95 ga...30-8-1....2.40 gaa
Steve Janaszak..17 gp....894 mins....47 ga....9-5-1....3.15 gaa
Bruce Horsch.......9 gp....410 mins....25 ga....3-3-1....3.66 gaa

(Olympic Games)

Jim Craig.............7 gp....420 mins....15 ga....6-0-1....2.14 gaa...183 svs..924 sv%

(Pre-Olympic and Olympic Games combined totals)

Jim Craig...........48 gp...2791 mins...110 ga..36-8-2....2.36 gaa

In regards to the 1980 USA team Pre-Olympic results: the US squad was winless in 4 games against NHL teams in September exhibition games, being outscored by a margin of 24-8. Of interest, the '80 US team won only 3 of 7 games against Canada, despite outscoring the Canadian Nat's 28-22.

The U.S. Olympic team also played a series of home and home games with each team in the Central Hockey League (Salt Lake City Golden Eagles, Indianapolis Checkers, Fort Worth Texans, Birmingham Bulls, Tulsa Ice Oilers, Houston Apollos, Oklahoma City Stars, Dallas Blackhawks and Cincinnati Stingers). In the 18 games vs. CHL teams, the U.S. Olympians went 14 wins,1 tie, 3 losses, outscoring their opponents 85-57.

And in December, 1979 at Lake Placid, the U.S. team won the Pre-Olympic tournament going undefeated in 4 games and outscoring their opposition 15 to 6.
USA 4:2 Sweden "B" team (Goals: Broten, Strobel, Harrington, Eruzione)
USA 3:1 Canada (Goals: McClanahan, Strobel, Verchota)
USA 3:0 Czechoslovakia "B" team (Goals: Cox, Ramsey, McClanahan)
USA 5:3 Soviet Union "B" team (Goals: Johnson (3), Cox, Strobel)

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I was at game # 36 (at UND) in Sept. 1979, and still have the program! What's cool about that is that UND had more future NHLer's than the Olympic team did! Granted, some of them were only in the NHL for a year or two, but so were guys like Dave Silk and Jim Craig. Anyway, just a fun aside.

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hello 1980 olympic hockey sports fans. im happy to say that i found this website by mistake, and can now post information after being authorized to do so. im sure you're all wondering where im going with this, so here goes. my name is Rory Hill, and i was the stickboy for the miracle on ice team. very interested in hearing from other fans and answering questions about my experiances and memories with the 1980 team. The miracle still continues for me after 25 years. ive been to several reunions and get togethers with the guys over the years. i just spent a fantastic weekend with buzz schnieder, and his son billy (who played him in the movie miracle)in lake placid. buzzy was the guest speaker for the lake placid coorporate challange 2006 and was kind enough to invite me along. if anyone needs any information, or wants to know anything about the life and memories of a 15 year old stickboy of a gold medal hockey team, feel free to write me at oreowing@ verizon.net.


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This has nothing to do with your question but some may be interested in the 1972 U.S. Olympic team - the subject of a new book. A link to a review is below. I have seen a couple of TV news stories in recent days about them:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...6_striking.php
Great stuff, thanks for the link.

That team was about my earliest hockey memory. Mark Howe played on the team. And - talk about weird recollections - the one thing I remember about those Olympic hockey games was that the boards in Sapporo were clear plexiglass! See-through from ice to top of the glass.

This line from that article is soooooo true and soooo unfortunate, IMO:

"In another sign times have changed, even a silver medal for Team USA in Turin would be considered something of a disappointment. Gold is expected nowadays, especially with the NHL players involved. The excitement of a group of kids shocking the hockey world in Squaw Valley, Sapporo and Lake Placid will probably never be duplicated."

Having a hard time remembering something/anything about the '76 hockey games in Innsbrook, Austria.

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Great stuff, thanks for the link.

That team was about my earliest hockey memory. Mark Howe played on the team. And - talk about weird recollections - the one thing I remember about those Olympic hockey games was that the boards in Sapporo were clear plexiglass! See-through from ice to top of the glass.

This line from that article is soooooo true and soooo unfortunate, IMO:

"In another sign times have changed, even a silver medal for Team USA in Turin would be considered something of a disappointment. Gold is expected nowadays, especially with the NHL players involved. The excitement of a group of kids shocking the hockey world in Squaw Valley, Sapporo and Lake Placid will probably never be duplicated."

Having a hard time remembering something/anything about the '76 hockey games in Innsbrook, Austria.
Fifth place finish. Try this link:

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0300769.html


IIRC, Buzz Schneider was on the 1976 squad. Here is another link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc...inter_Olympics


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The 1976 U.S. Olympic team at Innsbruck was the youngest Olympic team ever to represent the United States in Olympic competition, averaging just 21 years of age, and was coached by the late Bob Johnson of the University of Wisconsin, who had coached the national team since 1973. Nine of the 18 team members were holdovers from the U.S. college all-star squad which lost 10 straight matches at the 1975 world championships at West Germany.

Conditioning (yoga & gymnastics were a big part of the training) and skating ability were the keys to the Americans' slim hope at these games and assistant coach Grant Standbrook stated: "No team in the world is going to skate us off the ice." The U.S. team played a rigorous 58-game exhibition schedule over six months leading to the '76 games compiling a record of 39 victories, 17 losses and 2 ties in playing a number of collegiate, European and Russian teams. Steve Jensen of Michigan Tech was the team's leading goal-scorer with 44 goals and 42 assists.

The American team defeated Yugoslavia 8-4 on Feb. 3 (Steve Sertich scoring 3 goals in the 2nd period) in a one-game qualifying round to advance to the five-game, round-robin championship, with the Americans seeded fifth behind the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Finland and Poland. Sweden and Canada did not take part in protest over the banning of professional players in Olympic play.

The U.S. amateur team opened play Feb. 6 against the mighty Soviets and put up a stubborn struggle before giving up 2 costly power-play goals in a 6-2 loss. West German referee Josef Kompalla handicapped the U.S. squad by giving them 7 of the 9 penalties called including two cheap back-to-back penalties against American goalie Jim Warden. Coach Johnson was happy about his squad's over-all performance saying his "boys never stopped trying, playing just as hard in the opening minute as they were before the final buzzer." Because of that performance, there were some who felt the U.S. team--young as it is--had a fine chance for a bronze medal with the Czechoslovaks and Finns expected to be the chief obstacles.

In the next game on Sunday, Feb. 8, the U.S. battled the highly-rated Czechoslovaks on nearly even terms for two periods before succumbing to a third-period onslaught in a 5-0 loss. Despite getting a strong game from goalie Jim Warden, Milan Novy tallied for 2 goals and goalie Jiri Holecek was brilliant in net for Czechoslovakia.

The U.S. won its first game on Feb. 10 (with an assist from Russian referee Viktor Dombrovski, Steve Jensen scoring 2 goals) in a 5-4 victory over Finland. Each team had put the puck in the net five times but Dombrovski disallowed the Finns' last goal with only 2 minutes to play ruling that Hannu Kapanen had knocked down a rebound with his body and kicked the puck with his skate past goalie Jim Warden. The Finns' coach contended the puck went from shoulder to stick to score. Coach Johnson said: "It was our biggest victory of the year, a super effort." Before coming to Innsbruck, the Americans had stopped off in Finland for two exhibition warm-up games in which they lost them both, 9-2 and 9-3. The U.S. must now beat West Germany and Poland for the bronze prize.

Feb. 12, the Americans beat the Poles, 7-2, to keep their medal hopes alive. They dominated the game after the halfway mark of the first period. Poland & the U.S. each scored early but then Gary Ross took a pass from Bob Miller and tallied, giving the Americans a lead they never relinquished, leading 3-1 after the opening period.

But the long, tiring six-months adventure ended in game five on Feb. 14, when the Americans needing only a tie to win bronze, lost the prize to West Germany, 4-1, on the final day of play. And although they came close, they weakened in the final period before the strength of 6-foot-5 inch centre Erich Kuehnhackl, who scored the game's opening goal and assisted on the next three goals, the last two coming in the final 13 minutes. They were enough to win the bronze as West Germany, Finland and the U.S. each finished with 2-3 records. To break the tie, the IIHF considered only the goals difference in the games played between the three deadlocked teams. The Americans had a 6 for, 8 against (minus 2 difference), West Germany had a 7 for, 6 against (plus 1 difference), while Finland also had plus 1 difference (9 for, 8 against). But the percentage for 7 and 6 is higher than for 9 and 8 and thus the West Germans benefited from the complicated mathematics. The U.S. was given fourth place because it had beaten the Finns.

The Soviet Union won the gold, rallying several times to defeat the Czechoslovaks 4-3, who got the silver. This last game of the tournament proved to be a gem. The USSR trailed 2-0 midway through the 2nd period when a pair of penalties left them two men short for two minutes. The Soviet penalty killers smothered the Czechoslovak attack, not allowing a single dangerous shot on goal during the two-man disadvantage. The USSR eventually came from behind to tie the game 2-2 before the Czechoslovaks scored a go-ahead goal with nine minutes remaining in the third period. Taking advantage of a power-play, the Soviets tied the game with less than five minutes to play and then scored the eventual winner just 24 seconds later.

The Soviets gold medal represented the first time in Olympic hockey history that a team had won four consecutive Winter Games titles.

The 1976 U.S. team:

Goalies: Blane Comstock, 26, Roseau, Minn.; James Warden, 21, Altadena, Calif.

Defencemen: Jeff Hymanson, 21, Anoka, Minn.; Paul Jensen, 20, Crystal, Minn.;
Richard Lamby, 20, Auburn, Maine; Gary Ross, 22, Roseau, Minn.; John Taft, 21, Minneapolis.

Centres: Jeff Boeser, 22, St. Louis; Robert Dobek, 23, Taylor, Mich.; Robert Harris, 22, Omaha; Robert Miller, 19, Billerica, Mass.

Wings: Steven Alley, 22, Anoka, Minn.; Daniel Bolduc, 22, Waterville, Maine; Steven Jensen, 20, Middleton, Wis.; Robert Lundeen, 23, Minneapolis; Michael Randolph, 24, Duluth, Minn.; Douglas Ross, 24, Dearborn, Mich.; Buzz Schneider, 21, Babbitt, Minn.; Stephen Sertich, 23, Virginia, Minn.; Theodore Thorndike, 23, Andover, Mass.

Coach: Robert Johnson, Madison, Wis.
Assistant Coach: Grant Standbrook, Hanover, N.Y.

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I see we'd rather rehash cut and pasted articles from other sites on this subject instead of asking a guy who was part of the team that is in our midst.

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