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04-04-2012, 04:18 PM
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Yep, so 2nd round definitely seems most likely.

Even if they sweep (or get swept?) in the finals, he might be able to make a (1st round) game 6 here, at the earliest.
And that would be after an overseas flight and without having any practice with the team to play in a PLAYOFF game. That's just not a realistic expectation. He'll be a black ace until he gets a few times to actually skate with the team. Everybody has to be on the same page for this team to upset the Bruins. Silf doesn't know Mac's system.

And lets say he wins, are we going to recall him the minute he wins and not allow him to celebrate and take part in the parade etc. I just don't feel like reason is being used in this discussion...

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And that would be after an overseas flight and without having any practice with the team to play in a PLAYOFF game. That's just not a realistic expectation. He'll be a black ace until he gets a few times to actually skate with the team. Everybody has to be on the same page for this team to upset the Bruins. Silf doesn't know Mac's system.

And lets say he wins, are we going to recall him the minute he wins and not allow him to celebrate and take part in the parade etc. I just don't feel like reason is being used in this discussion...
Oh, I'm with you.

My post seemed like a best-case scenario, all things considered.

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One way or another this doesn't tell us anything.

Silverberg and Rundblad aren't even comparable players. And the latter having a tough transition was predictable.
A ton of people were predicting Rundblad would be more successful than Cowen, so no it wasn't predictable.

the only thing it proves is that the SEL isn't as reliable predictor of NHL performance as the AHL.

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Agreed, although I think he might want a few days in between to take a breather, hence the few days I added. Immediately jumping from the SEL finals right into the NHL playoffs is pretty intense.

Wouldn't that be crazy though: Finish sweeping the SEL finals on the eve of the 15th, on a plane, and playing in Game 3 of the Sens-Bruins series the very next day? That would garner an INCREDIBLE amount of respect, however unrealistic it is.
Pfft.

How many players in history have won the SEL championship AND the Stanley Cup in the same season, or would he be the first?


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Murray said when interviewed by Ian Mendes during the intermission yesterday that they will be bringing Zibanejad over to play in the AHL as soon as he finishes (soon), and Silfverberg to play in the NHL, but it is up to the Sens to stay around long enough for that to happen.

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I think he's pretty banged up as well. He had a shoulder injury a few months ago, and recently took a pretty hard hit that got the same shoulder.

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Please temper your expectations.... Alfie potential hall of famer and best player to ever play for this organization. I hope he turns out to be a solid 20/20 player that is defensively responsible.

Unbelievable to hear he is doing so well! Hopefully it translates over next season and he can make an easy transition to the NHL. I dont see him just coming over here and playing that seems like incredibly lofty expectations for any player. Even Radulov had a short transition period.

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Rundblad ripped up the SEL and didn't exactly transition easily.
Rundblad is very good offensively. In 24 games with the Sens, he created quite a few goals with nice moves/passes. His problem is not offensively, it's his defensive game and decision-making. He plays way too "relaxed". His style needs a lot of adjustment to the NA game. Silfverberg is a different beast because his defensive game is already really polished (was his strenght before he developped offensively). Of course, we can't be sure how his offensive game will translate but the chances are it will be smoother than Rundblad... From the start, Jakob always played a more "NA game". We will see anyway, not everything is linear and most situations are unique

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He's going to be a great 1st line player!!! Just give him a little time. Even Alfie took a few years to mature into a great player!

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Who's Shawn Simpson?

Regardless, I'm also just hoping that he turns into a top 6 forward. There's been plenty of hype surrounding plenty of guys who didn't pan out.
Yeah, who is Shawn Simpson?

Fingers crossed Silfv will pan out though!

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Who's Shawn Simpson?

Regardless, I'm also just hoping that he turns into a top 6 forward. There's been plenty of hype surrounding plenty of guys who didn't pan out.
aka 'Simmer' on the Team1200. Also a former NHL player.

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aka 'Simmer' on the Team1200. Also a former NHL player.
More importantly, he's held a few different titles with a few different Management teams in Toronto, Washington and Minnesota. He seems to have lots and lots of contacts and has been a solid addition to the Ottawa media!!

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Does anybody think Rundblad will challenge for ROTY next year? He has the skills, but I am sure this year will have been a wake up call for him. He could figure it out this summer, and prove himself next year.

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Does anybody think Rundblad will challenge for ROTY next year? He has the skills, but I am sure this year will have been a wake up call for him. He could figure it out this summer, and prove himself next year.
I think Phoenix will probably screw him up more than help him. Phoenix is the country club of the NHL.

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Not proven enough on the small ice as far as I'm concerned.

He sounds like he could be really good, but his injury history is bothersome.

Definitely top 6 material potential with those numbers

Murray talked about bringing him over for Ottawa's playoffs... I guess that speaks volumes about how he feels about the kid and how good he thinks he can be.

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I think Phoenix will probably screw him up more than help him. Phoenix is the country club of the NHL.
Phoenix develops defenceman VERY well. Forwards not so much. DR7 is in good hands. If Tippett can't teach him to play defence, no one will be able too.

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Phoenix develops defenceman VERY well. Forwards not so much. DR7 is in good hands. If Tippett can't teach him to play defence, no one will be able too.
Really? Turris came here very well prepared for the NHL so I don't know where that idea comes from. Just because he didn't get the playing time he wanted that doesn't mean Phoenix is clueless about developing forwards

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Shhh... that's only the opinion after we trade him with a 2nd rounder for Luke Schenn.
Get over the trades (Bishop & Turris), it's done

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Phoenix develops defenceman VERY well. Forwards not so much. DR7 is in good hands. If Tippett can't teach him to play defence, no one will be able too.
How so? They picked two terrific players from "lesser" leagues in Yandle and Ekman and they've been very good. Others, not so much. Think it's unfair to say that they can't develop forwards but can defenseman. Don't think there's much pointing towards that.

As for Rundblad as a Calder candidate for next year, do we really think he's gonna have a significant enough role for that to be considered?

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Problem is that with Rundblad, you have to teach him more than just defence. You have to teach him to play with some intensity.

Obviously I think we should have reserved expectations of him next year, but comparing him to Rundblad is also just as over the top.

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Does anybody think Rundblad will challenge for ROTY next year? He has the skills, but I am sure this year will have been a wake up call for him. He could figure it out this summer, and prove himself next year.
No I don't. There are some good rookies coming in probably next year too probably scheifle, Bartschi, silfverberg, huberdeau, maybe even a yakupov or a grigorenko maybe.

Not to completely disregard that but I don't think so based on everything I saw this year.

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Does anybody think Rundblad will challenge for ROTY next year?
He played over 26 games this year. I could be wrong, but I think that eliminates him.

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I wasn't talking about the trades. I was mocking some people on this board about their wildly fluctuating opinions of players dependent on the crests they wear.

If Murray trades Silfverberg at the draft, we will have an entire thread, with the people saying he'll be a future Alfie now stating that he'd be lucky to become an AHL version of Andy Dackell.

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If Murray trades Silfverberg at the draft, we will have an entire thread, with the people saying he'll be a future Alfie now stating that he'd be lucky to become an AHL version of Andy Dackell.
who cares?

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who cares?
I do in a thread where Rundblad is mentioned... after last summers absurd overrating about he was going to be better than Karlsson, then Turris is going to be a 70 point center and now Silfverberg is going to be the next Alfie.

Until they're traded, then they're crap.

Couldn't we just be remotely reasonable here and hope that Silfverberg falls somewhere around the Michalek-Foligno range?

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Rundblad and Silveberg are completely different players in terms of style of play and defensive awareness and risky plays. Also you can throw skating/speed there.

Silveberg can grind if need there be in the NHL and play on a 3rd line to start, use his size and skating, and play defensive 2 way hockey.

Rundblad can still be a star but there is no middle ground in his game. For him even to get a chance and develop in the NHL his defensive game as a Dman needs to be a lot better than it is right now.

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