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04-05-2012, 12:21 PM
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Is the frozen four semifinals games today or tomorrow?
Tonight.

Ferris St. vs Union at 5:30 on ESPNU
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Jeremy Welsh of Union is a Monster. Who owns his rights or is he FA?
I remember hearing that between BC and Minn there are 26 players that have been drafted.

between Union and Ferris St. there are 0 drafted players.

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I remember hearing that between BC and Minn there are 26 players that have been drafted.

between Union and Ferris St. there are 0 drafted players.
Union doesn't even have scholarship athletes like Yale, Princeton, ect. Zero recruiting power aside from the draw of playing D1.

What they are doing here is very impressive.

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Welsh looked really good IMO.

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04-05-2012, 06:30 PM
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Welsh looked really good IMO.
yep please sign him slats...i will be pissed if we miss out cause we have no contracts to add him

i want him even more after learning he was 63% on draws.

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04-05-2012, 06:51 PM
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Welsh is too unrefined to be an NHL pivot.

Definitely a winger.

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Any rumors as to who Welsh is looking to sign with or whay teams are going after him?

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I recall reading up and 56 points isn't brushing what any of the NHL caliber kids before him put up.

But, if the scouts like him I don't see why not, we've just never had luck with the "less talented relative" acquisitions before.
Stepan looked great last year. No idea why he hasn't progressed this year. He was looked at as a top 30 pick last year by some. Definitely hit a wall. I wouldn't be surprised if he went undrafted at this point. With that said, I'd take a flyer on him in the 6th or 7th round.

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feck. welsh signed with the canes right after the game. will play for them saturday

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1 year deal for welsh, so he'll play 1 game to burn the year and become a rfa

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1 year deal for welsh, so he'll play 1 game to burn the year and become a rfa
Wow. With our cap structure we would not be able to offer something like that to a completely unproven player.

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The Rangers have the 29th pick in the draft right now. The 4 conference finalists will get the last 4 picks. #27-#30. The earliest the Rangers pick could be is #25 if they and Vancouver fail to reach the conference finals.

1-BJs
2-EDM
3-MTL
4-NYI
5-TO
Top 5 teams can lottery and get #1 pick
6-ANA
7-MIN
8-CAR
9-WIN
10-TB
11-CAPS(AVS)
12-DAL
13-BUF
14-CAL
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15-OTT
16-CAPS
17-LA(Columbus has the option to take pick in 12 or 13)
18-SJ
19-CHI
20-NJ
21-TB(DET)
22-PHILLY
23-BUF(NASH)
24-PITT
Division winners are seeded #25-#30
25-FLA
26-PHO
27-BOS
28-STL
29-NYR
30-VAN

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I would assume BJs would take LA's pick this year for several reasons.

1. This year's draft is seen as being stronger than next year's.

2. LA will likely improve next year and they will pick later.

3. The BJ GM will want to rebuild as quickly as possible to save his own job. Having 3 picks in the top 31, including the first overall, would give fans a lot of hope that the future is bright and things will turn around quickly.

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04-09-2012, 01:22 AM
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Union doesn't even have scholarship athletes like Yale, Princeton, ect. Zero recruiting power aside from the draw of playing D1.

What they are doing here is very impressive.
Impressive yes but Colgate and Quinnipiac are the only schools in the ECAC that have the ability to offer athletic scholarships.

The rest including your examples are either Ivy League, which does not allow scholarrships or schools that are D3 for the rest of their sports.

I know it's OT but I hate when people complain about Ivy's having an advantage (especially Cornell since I go there) versus St Lawrence or Union or RPI when it isn't true. The advantages they have have nothing to do with scholarships.

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Impressive yes but Colgate and Quinnipiac are the only schools in the ECAC that have the ability to offer athletic scholarships.

The rest including your examples are either Ivy League, which does not allow scholarrships or schools that are D3 for the rest of their sports.

I know it's OT but I hate when people complain about Ivy's having an advantage (especially Cornell since I go there) versus St Lawrence or Union or RPI when it isn't true. The advantages they have have nothing to do with scholarships.
No, you're correct. I never meant to insinuate that one ECAC school had an unfair advantage over another. I just am always pleased when one does well on an NCAA tournament scale.

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04-10-2012, 11:31 AM
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Why is ESPN reporting Jack Connolly as a Dallas Stars draft pick? I can't find that information anywhere...hockeydb has him undrafted, so does elite prospects, and hockeys future has no mention of him on Dallas' page...

Just another ESPN brain fart?

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A Duluth native and Dallas Stars draft pick, Connolly had 20 goals and 40 assists in 41 games this season. He had 66 goals and 131 assists in 166 career games, leading the Bulldogs to the national title last year.
EDIT - Link: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ey-baker-award

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Why is ESPN reporting Jack Connolly as a Dallas Stars draft pick? I can't find that information anywhere...hockeydb has him undrafted, so does elite prospects, and hockeys future has no mention of him on Dallas' page...

Just another ESPN brain fart?



EDIT - Link: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ey-baker-award
I think they're confusing him with Jack Campbell, lol.

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04-10-2012, 12:29 PM
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What do you guys think of Martin Frk? when he was just starting with the Mooseheads I'm pretty sure he was seen as a top 10 pick in his draft year. He had a big injury this season but I think he is playing with Nathan MacKinnon. I've only ever seen him at the World Juniors and he looked good there.

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What do you guys think of Martin Frk? when he was just starting with the Mooseheads I'm pretty sure he was seen as a top 10 pick in his draft year. He had a big injury this season but I think he is playing with Nathan MacKinnon. I've only ever seen him at the World Juniors and he looked good there.
He's a bit of an enigma as a prospect. On the upside, it's hard not to like his blend of skill and tenacity. On the downside, his skating isn't great and he hasn't quite met the expectations that were put upon him. Granted, a serious concussion to start the year certainly hindered him, but I think he's going to end up as a guy who's taken by a team in the early 2nd round.

Good upside, but I'm not sure he has the character qualities that the Rangers would look for.

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Why is ESPN reporting Jack Connolly as a Dallas Stars draft pick? I can't find that information anywhere...hockeydb has him undrafted, so does elite prospects, and hockeys future has no mention of him on Dallas' page...

Just another ESPN brain fart?



EDIT - Link: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ey-baker-award
Idiots got him confused with jack Campbell.

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http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=62970

TSN final ratings. Stepan is at 53, so a viable option

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I want Christian Djoos just to have the potential of another Djoos on the Rangers

Interesting how close Kerdiles and Nieves are to each other. I'm telling y'all, if they can get an extra second rounder or even two for their first rounder and Gordie and comp know something....move down.

Some teams like CBJ and Tampa have multiple second round picks.

Rangers only have four picks at this time. The 5th rounder went for Scott, the 6th was to get Ceresnak last year, and the 7th was for Mitchell.

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Edmonton gets the #1 pick again?
I understand the reason for the lotto but jeez, three years in a row? Reminds me of another certain team.

I'd be pissed if I was a Columbus fan.

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Kerdiles at #29. About right.

If he's in the 25-30 range on draft day, im going to have my hopes up.

He's a player I've been high on since before Miller was picked.

Rangers should know him well. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they have been scouting him.

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Eberle, Hall, RNH, Gagner, Smyth, Hemsky. Then there's also MPS.

If I'm Oilers I'd try to trade down with say Isles or Leafs. Take a D-man, Murray or Dumba and get extra picks. Hard to pass up on a guy like Yakupov but they wont be making playoffs until they improve that blue line.

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