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04-06-2012, 11:09 AM
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Ben Scrivens

I seriously feel this kid is ready for fulltime NHL duties.

He has been excellent. Mind you hes killing the tank but thats another story.

He is very good at communicating with the dman
He is a true battler
He is a winner
He has been excellent at every level. AHL goalie of the month last month.

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2008-09 Cornell University ECAC 36 0 2 2152 65 0 7 1.81 22 10 4 871 0.931
2009-10 Cornell University ECAC 34 0 0 2018 63 0 7 1.87 21 9 4 894 0.934
2010-11 Reading Royals ECHL 13 0 2 779 29 1 0 2.23 10 3 0 442 0.938 3 0 0
2010-11 Toronto Marlies AHL 33 0 0 1929 75 3 2 2.33 13 12 5 912 0.924
2011-12 Toronto Marlies* AHL 37 2 0 2174 75 2 4 2.07 21 14 1 928 0.925
2011-12 Toronto Maple Leafs* NHL 11 0 4 613 32 3 0 3.13 4 4 2 301 0.904

Does anyone think he has secured a spot on the Leafs next year?

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Annnnnnnd let it begin!

Anyone remember James Reimer?

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I'd have no problem with him backing up a veteran to gain more experience next year, however, with Reimer under contract, I can't see the point. We need to acquire a vet, and it probably makes more sense to pair him with Reims for 12/13. At least we can find out if James can get through his sophomore slump.

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Lol. I hope you are not saying that he is ready for NHL fulltime duty because you have watched him play in 8 games this year.

And this kid you talk about is 25, soon to be 26 in the offseason.

And what exactly has he won to make him a winner?

You throw out stats, but his numbers (especially his SV%) are similar to Reimer.

Reimer is our goalie to be.

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04-06-2012, 11:18 AM
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It would seem that way. A good playoff run with the Marlies will be good for him.

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Is he the next Saviour? . In all seriousness, I hope they keep who's best in training camp from the goalies and try to acquire a steady veteran through some means. Goaltending is clearly a deficiency. Scrivens has been good this year (not great) but his real skill level will be decided once shooters start picking spots and how he reacts to that.

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Is he the next Saviour? . In all seriousness, I hope they keep who's best in training camp from the goalies and try to acquire a steady veteran through some means. Goaltending is clearly a deficiency. Scrivens has been good this year (not great) but his real skill level will be decided once shooters start picking spots and how he reacts to that.
Yep. He hasn't even been all that good in the NHL this year.

We can't afford to go into next year with Reimer and Scrivens, it's too much of a risk.

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I'm telling you, he will be our future #1 for many years.

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He's been solid in his short time with the big club. But seriously, Leafs fans just never learn. Reimer/Scrivens next season would be such a retarded move, especially after seeing how going with two young goalies worked out for the Leafs this season

Burke should try and get a more experienced goalie that is a LEGIT goalie, i.e Thomas Vokoun. Have Reimer backing Vokoun up (playing in about 30 games?) If Reimer can't handle that, then Burke should look to trade Reimer and give Scrivens a chance.

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I wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt and go on to have success elsewhere. The team is in a tough situation due to the need for goaltending stability. They just can't go into next season with Reimer/Scrivens.

I believe he's up for waiver eligibility next year too (if he's not, it could change what happens with him). So as much as it would be great to see Reimer/Vet (NHL), Scrivens/Owuya (AHL) it may make more sense to move Scrivens' rights for a draft pick. Similar to what St. Louis did with Ben Bishop. Maybe to a team that has a vet in place, but could use a youthful backup with the potential to be a starter.

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Is he the next Saviour? . In all seriousness, I hope they keep who's best in training camp from the goalies and try to acquire a steady veteran through some means. Goaltending is clearly a deficiency. Scrivens has been good this year (not great) but his real skill level will be decided once shooters start picking spots and how he reacts to that.
Reimer's contract could be come a problem if it comes down the two of them for the #2 job.

Stylistically at least I prefer Scrivens at this point it time. He's seems to have a lot more dexterity in terms making glove saves and handling the puck as well.

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Reimer's contract could be come a problem if it comes down the two of them for the #2 job.

Stylistically at least I prefer Scrivens at this point it time. He's seems to have a lot more dexterity with hands in terms making glove saves and handling the puck as well.
Isn't he earning something like 1.35 for the next 2 years? I don't think that's a problem.

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He better not play tomorrow. We need that top 5 pick.

That said, I think Scrivens could handle backup duties next year. If we get a vet goalie, he can compete with Reims for the backup role.

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Annnnnnnd let it begin!

Anyone remember James Reimer?
This.

He is also like 26.... He is playing well and imo could be a capable backup, however Reimer will be our backup next year

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He better not play tomorrow. We need that top 5 pick.

That said, I think Scrivens could handle backup duties next year. If we get a vet goalie, he can compete with Reims for the backup role.
This. 100% spot on

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Annnnnnnd let it begin!

Anyone remember James Reimer?
I kind of agree with this

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Yep. He hasn't even been all that good in the NHL this year.

We can't afford to go into next year with Reimer and Scrivens, it's too much of a risk.
^^^^ this.

we went into this season with reimer and gus and just about every one thought it was a risky move going with 2 unproven goalies except for burke. burkes stubburness to bring in someone more established was a big problem this season for the leafs.

i happen to agree that scrivens is probably ready for the nhl however it is too big of a gamble for burke to leave up to chance imo. scrivens is still a young goalie. most likely burke will find a more established goalie and leave him on the marlies where he will hopefully dominate in the ahl and train with allair.

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Can we just rename Scrivens? Call him Reimer2.0

We heard "too small of a sample size" how many times last year and all summer? Well, this applies, again. Yes he's good. Yes he's solid. But give him a full season in the NHL before calling him legit. Because right now, I don't see a single legit NHL goalie in the Leafs organization.

We have 2 inconsistent NHL goalies, and a couple of potential NHL goalies. Not a single one of those guys should be next season's starter.

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at the start of the season i think a bunch of us felt that if our goalies could maintain a SV% of around .900 we'd be in the playoffs.

all 3 of our goalies have a SV% of .900+ ... and we're battling for a lottery pick.

is the goaltending to blame for the brutal GA numbers? the players? the system? all of the above?


anyways...i don't see any point in rushing Scrivens. i'd like to see him get more time with the Marlies.

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Isn't he earning something like 1.35 for the next 2 years? I don't think that's a problem.
1.8 for the next 2.

And if Scrivens beats Reimer out for the #2 job it's going to hard to send Reimer down especially if we may have other players(Lombardi or Armstrong e.g) down there already.

Also Owuya needs to play at least 55-60 games(IMO) next year for the Marlies, And if Reimer is there he's not going to play as much as he should.


When you boil it down actually I have hard time seeing both of them back with us next season.

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Annnnnnnd let it begin!

Anyone remember James Reimer?
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Yep. He hasn't even been all that good in the NHL this year.

We can't afford to go into next year with Reimer and Scrivens, it's too much of a risk.
This is what I have been saying.
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I wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt and go on to have success elsewhere. The team is in a tough situation due to the need for goaltending stability. They just can't go into next season with Reimer/Scrivens.

I believe he's up for waiver eligibility next year too (if he's not, it could change what happens with him). So as much as it would be great to see Reimer/Vet (NHL), Scrivens/Owuya (AHL) it may make more sense to move Scrivens' rights for a draft pick. Similar to what St. Louis did with Ben Bishop. Maybe to a team that has a vet in place, but could use a youthful backup with the potential to be a starter.
Couldn't of said it better myself.

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stick with reimer and add a vet to platoon with him, if reimer faulters next season then maybe give scrivens a shot but a solid vet would be much better

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Reimer 2.0

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You guys should get a proven goalie. No offense to your current line up. Leafs with a true #1 goalie and not a potential #1...is the difference between say 12th in the east and 7th.

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This.

He is also like 26.... He is playing well and imo could be a capable backup, however Reimer will be our backup next year
Sounds like the sense of entitlement is alive and well in TO after all these years. Outside of the first 10 games of his career, Reimer hasn't done anytihng to earn the #1 goalie spot that's been kept warm for him for most of this season, and he certainly hasn't done anything this season to deserve the uncontested backup role next season.

If we do get a vet to play #1 for us next season, he should be backed up by the goalie who plays the best.

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