Duchene has had an injury plagued season, and an off-year.
He is capable of putting up Nash-like numbers.
He is younger and cheaper.
However, he is not the leader that Nash is.
He does not provide the same type of game-in, game-out effort and consistency that Nash does.
And finally, no one has ever seen Nash play with a half-decent team around him, so who knows what he could accomplish...
So I pose the question, would you?
Lines could look like this next season...
McGinn, Stastny, Nash
Landeskog, O'Reilly, Downie
Van Der Gulik, Porter, Mueller
McLeod, McClement, Kobasew
hahahaha. No chance, only way I trade Duchene is if it's for someone along the lines of Stamkos, Giroux, Perry, etc AKA massive overpayment, don't be an idiot. The amount of people wanting to get rid of this 21 year old kid is insane.
Last edited by FoppaForsberg*: 04-06-2012 at 07:49 PM.
Honestly, I don't know why you all want defence men, we have plenty. Gaunce, Barrie, Elliott and Siemens are all real close to being regular NHL defence men. Plus Johnson, Hejda and Wilson, one of the O-B's... hunwick...More importantly, we're gonna lose Hejduk. We don't really have any decent wingers. I love Landy-Factor-Downie, but that's not really a competitive top line... We should get a top notch winger to play with Stastny, so we have a decent top 6, and we'd be a competitive team. Just my two cents.
Honestly, I don't know why you all want defence men, we have plenty. Gaunce, Barrie, Elliott and Siemens are all real close to being regular NHL defence men. Plus Johnson, Hejda and Wilson, one of the O-B's... hunwick...More importantly, we're gonna lose Hejduk. We don't really have any decent wingers. I love Landy-Factor-Downie, but that's not really a competitive top line... We should get a top notch winger to play with Stastny, so we have a decent top 6, and we'd be a competitive team. Just my two cents.
We lack quality defensemen not quantity. We need another top pairing d-man without a doubt.
hahahaha. No chance, only way I trade Duchene is if it's for someone along the lines of Stamkos, Giroux, Perry, etc AKA massive overpayment, don't be an idiot. The amount of people wanting to get rid of this 21 year old kid is insane.
You'll never get those guys, but you could get Rick Nash, potentially... and he's a stud. Personally, I feel that Duchene is a bit of a hot-dogger. He's more interested in his own highlight reel than the good of the team... Nash cares about his team, and he puts up the highlights too
Honestly, I don't know why you all want defence men, we have plenty. Gaunce, Barrie, Elliott and Siemens are all real close to being regular NHL defence men. Plus Johnson, Hejda and Wilson, one of the O-B's... hunwick...More importantly, we're gonna lose Hejduk. We don't really have any decent wingers. I love Landy-Factor-Downie, but that's not really a competitive top line... We should get a top notch winger to play with Stastny, so we have a decent top 6, and we'd be a competitive team. Just my two cents.
We have quantity but outside of Johnson we have no quality.
You'll never get those guys, but you could get Rick Nash, potentially... and he's a stud. Personally, I feel that Duchene is a bit of a hot-dogger. He's more interested in his own highlight reel than the good of the team... Nash cares about his team, and he puts up the highlights too
The way he demands trades shows just how much he cares.
The way he demands trades shows just how much he cares.
He didn't demand a trade, he asked for one... after playing like 8 years on a team that inhales scrotum. Wouldn't you ask for a trade?
It's the GM's fault that went public, and you can tell that after the media debacle Nash still led his team with confidence, and the players still believed in him. He's a true leader despite that situation. IMO...
Duchene may turn out to be a great player and a key piece to this organization's revival but I have a hard time picturing it.
You'll never get those guys, but you could get Rick Nash, potentially... and he's a stud. Personally, I feel that Duchene is a bit of a hot-dogger. He's more interested in his own highlight reel than the good of the team... Nash cares about his team, and he puts up the highlights too
That's my point, Duchene loves this team, he's only a kid and the only reason we would ever or should ever move him is if someone sends us an offer that's mind blowing. And hot-dogging, yeah.. maybe a bit. But again he's only been in the league for 3 seasons, as he matures i'm sure the fancy moves and such will be replaced by smarter choices on the ice. He'll probably keep doing these moves but not so often to hurt the team.
He didn't demand a trade, he asked for one... after playing like 8 years on a team that inhales scrotum. Wouldn't you ask for a trade?
It's the GM's fault that went public, and you can tell that after the media debacle Nash still led his team with confidence, and the players still believed in him. He's a true leader despite that situation. IMO...
Duchene may turn out to be a great player and a key piece to this organization's revival but I have a hard time picturing it.
No I would not instead I would stay and try to help the franchise turn it around.
hahahaha. No chance, only way I trade Duchene is if it's for someone along the lines of Stamkos, Giroux, Perry, etc AKA massive overpayment, don't be an idiot. The amount of people wanting to get rid of this 21 year old kid is insane.
You can trade the entire Avs roster and you still wont get Stamkos
We lack quality defensemen not quantity. We need another top pairing d-man without a doubt.
While I agree with you and while I don't want to see Duchene traded,
Our biggest problem this year was scoring goals not letting them in for once. How many games did we need just ONE goal and we never got it? I guess you could argue the same way around though, but I think more often then not our problem was putting the puck in the back of the net.
Now I'd rather see Stastny traded, the lack of emotion from him is what really drives me insane. He's been angry what like once?
Maybe it's just because I see ROR wearing his heart on his sleeve and being genuinely upset about losing last night, then you see Stastny and he's trying to hold back his smile. However I just don't see Stastny playing like he cares, yes he's played better this second half but his body language is still the same. There's a big difference between keeping your legs moving and being flashy.
Anyways rant aside, if we got a top pairing D man to go with Johnson I wouldn't complain, just saying I think we need some help offensively as well, or just for our guys to play 100% to what their capable of. Which makes me think new coach but that's a whole 'nother discussion.
While I agree with you and while I don't want to see Duchene traded,
Our biggest problem this year was scoring goals not letting them in for once. How many games did we need just ONE goal and we never got it? I guess you could argue the same way around though, but I think more often then not our problem was putting the puck in the back of the net.
Now I'd rather see Stastny traded, the lack of emotion from him is what really drives me insane. He's been angry what like once?
Maybe it's just because I see ROR wearing his heart on his sleeve and being genuinely upset about losing last night, then you see Stastny and he's trying to hold back his smile. However I just don't see Stastny playing like he cares, yes he's played better this second half but his body language is still the same. There's a big difference between keeping your legs moving and being flashy.
So because he doesn't cry like O'Reilly it means he has no heart?
Plus he doesn't play like he cares? That's why he looks like he doesn't care whenever we score right? Also how many times did Sakic show emotion?
Honestly, I don't know why you all want defence men, we have plenty. Gaunce, Barrie, Elliott and Siemens are all real close to being regular NHL defence men. Plus Johnson, Hejda and Wilson, one of the O-B's... hunwick...More importantly, we're gonna lose Hejduk. We don't really have any decent wingers. I love Landy-Factor-Downie, but that's not really a competitive top line... We should get a top notch winger to play with Stastny, so we have a decent top 6, and we'd be a competitive team. Just my two cents.
Siemens is not really close to being in the NHL at all.
We've got 3 great centres, and only one certain top 6 winger in Landeskog... Essentially I think we have to make a decision and turn one of those centres into a top 6 winger. I'd rather trade Duchene than Stastny... Duchene has higher trade value IMO, and he's more of a showboat, less of a team guy... so that's my rationale.
I think Stastny has been showing a lot of emotion and leadership lately, maybe not by crying, but by turning up the intensity of his on-ice play when his team needs a goal or a win.
We've got 3 great centres, and only one certain top 6 winger in Landeskog... Essentially I think we have to make a decision and turn one of those centres into a top 6 winger. I'd rather trade Duchene than Stastny... Duchene has higher trade value IMO, and he's more of a showboat, less of a team guy... so that's my rationale.
I think Stastny has been showing a lot of emotion and leadership lately, maybe not by crying, but by turning up the intensity of his on-ice play when his team needs a goal or a win.
Mueller and McGinn are pretty sure-fire top 6...as long as they're healthy.
