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04-05-2012, 03:00 PM
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your suppose to think like theyve never played a game before
i've cleared it up, thanx for pointing it out....again!

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04-05-2012, 03:04 PM
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Little hypocritical, you have Yakupov over the Calder front runner....
hypocritical? i still feel Yakupov will be more of an impact player than Landeskog....and i have cleared up my misread, as i have posted already, but i wouldn't be handing it to Landeskog just yet, it's not cut and dried.

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04-06-2012, 11:19 AM
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These threads always go the same. Fan whining about how there player too low and how ridiculous that is, in this case Avs, Oils, and Devs fans. Honestly in a few years and even when all is said and done, an unconventional list (With lets say Larsson or Landeskog outside of the top 5) is just as accurate. Don't rip someone for an unconventional opinion.

Honestly, this is how I would have pick based on what I have seen so far:

1. Yakupov
2. RNH
3. Grigorenko
4. Larsson
5. Landeskog
6. Murray
7. Huberdeau
8. Dumba
9. Galchenyuk
10. Couturier
11. Hamilton
12. Forsberg
13. Bartschi
14. Strome
15. Scheifele

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04-06-2012, 02:26 PM
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1. Nail Yakupov
2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
3. Jonathan Huberdeau
4. Adam Larsson
5. Mikhail Grigorenko
6. Gabriel Landeskog
7. Ryan Murray
8. Alex Galchenyuk
9. Matthew Dumba
10. Dougie Hamilton
11. Filip Forsberg
12. Sean Couturier
13. Ryan Strome
14. Griffin Reinhart
15. Morgan Rielly

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04-07-2012, 03:36 AM
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Who in their right mind would draft Larsson over Yakupov.

No, just no.
I am in my right mind. RNH, Landeskog and Larsson over Yakupov. Comfortably. This draft is so weak. I put him even with Huberdeau.

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04-07-2012, 07:03 AM
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I am in my right mind. RNH, Landeskog and Larsson over Yakupov. Comfortably. This draft is so weak. I put him even with Huberdeau.
This is why they need context when they say the draft is weak...because people who don't want these players are going to think all the players are weak.

The top 10, maybe 10 top 15 for this draft is as good as any. The first overall pick is not weak, infact Yakupov is up there with Tavares and Stamkos. Yakupov is ahead of every player from last draft, and it's insulting to both him and Huberdeau (Because it gives too high expectations on Huberdeau) to suggest he's only at his level.

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04-07-2012, 09:28 PM
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Off what we've seen so far it is....
I disagree. As good as Landeskog was this season I still think there is a very good chance Larsson will be a better player than him 5 years from now.

I remember last year before the draft a lot people thought that out of all the 1st round prospects Landeskog was the most likely to find immediate success in the NHL because of his size and the fact that he was already playing a pro style game. Larsson on the other hand not only had to make the change from European hockey to North American hockey but also had to do so playing a position where prospects typically take longer to develop than wingers.

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04-07-2012, 09:43 PM
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Some of these lists are horrid. Huberdeau over Grigorenko and Galchenyuk? Do you realize how good these two kids are?

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04-07-2012, 10:44 PM
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Oh man. People are STILL putting Larsson 2nd despite the fact that hardly anyone outside of HF put him there?

RNH, Landeskog, and Huberdeau were picked before Larsson for a reason. RNH and Landeskog have already proven their worth. Larsson could potentially end up being worth more, but nothing we've seen so far would indicate an inkling of that (and certainly not enough to reverse the scouts/consensus professional opinions).

Maybe, just maybe, the scouts were right.

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04-07-2012, 10:47 PM
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1. Nail Yakupov
2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
3. Mikhail Grigorenko
4. Alex Galchenyuk
5. Gabriel Landeskog
6. Ryan Murray
7. Jonathan Huberdeau
8. Mathew Dumba
9. Adam Larsson
10. Sean Couturier
This is the best one.

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04-07-2012, 10:50 PM
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Some of these lists are horrid. Huberdeau over Grigorenko and Galchenyuk? Do you realize how good these two kids are?
Without a doubt Huberdeau is as skilled and less of a risk. Grigs is the softest top forward to come out since Filatov and Galchenyuk isn't even slightly better than Huberdeau.

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04-07-2012, 10:58 PM
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Without a doubt Huberdeau is as skilled and less of a risk. Grigs is the softest top forward to come out since Filatov and Galchenyuk isn't even slightly better than Huberdeau.
Hopefully this is a joke or troll post. Grigorenko isn't even soft, but he doesn't go looking to hit everyone. Galchenyuk would have challenged for first overall had he had a full healthy season. He also has one of the best work ethics I've ever seen from a prospect rated so high.

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04-07-2012, 11:01 PM
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LOL at people not putting Forsberg in the top 10 hahahaaha

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1. Nail Yakupov
2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
3. Mikhail Grigorenko
4. Alex Galchenyuk
5. Gabriel Landeskog
6. Ryan Murray
7. Jonathan Huberdeau
8. Mathew Dumba
9. Adam Larsson
10. Sean Couturier
Easily the best list. Maybe replace couturier with Hamilton but other than that it's perfect.

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LOL at people not putting Forsberg in the top 10 hahahaaha
In fairness to them, most people haven't even seen Forsberg play.

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04-07-2012, 11:09 PM
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In fairness to them, most people haven't even seen Forsberg play.
fair enough... but based on scouting reports by people such as MacKenzie, Button, etc it's evident that he is one of the top prospects in the draft

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Filip Forberg is one of the premier power forwards in this year’s draft. Most publications have him as one of the three best forward talents eligible in 2012. Big and strong with excellent puck-protection capabilities. He’s great along the boards and in traffic, absorbing hits to make plays. He’s tough on his skates and doesn’t shy away from contact, using that strength to create opportunities on virtually every shift. Forsberg looks excellent when carrying the puck through the neutral zone on the rush. He’s a plus-finisher who has a nose for the net. The Swede is capable of shooting with finesse and power and even has an excellent backhander in his arsenal. Aggressively weaving through defenders, single-mindedly focused on the attack, Forsberg can dangle and finish with authority. Additionally, the young Swede has people lining up left and right to commend his work ethic and drive to be better. He understands his flaws and is willing to put in the time and effort to fix them.
Projection: First-Line Power Forward (40g, 80p potential)


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04-07-2012, 11:56 PM
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Hopefully this is a joke or troll post. Grigorenko isn't even soft, but he doesn't go looking to hit everyone. Galchenyuk would have challenged for first overall had he had a full healthy season. He also has one of the best work ethics I've ever seen from a prospect rated so high.
No joke and saying Grigorenko is not soft is like saying Phil Kessel is physical.

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04-08-2012, 01:16 AM
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I agree with all who say it'd be Yakupov as number 1 and RNH as number 2. Yakupov is supposedly miles ahead of the others in his draft class. RNH...many thought he was the weakest first pick. Glad The Nuge has blown everyone's expectations apart.

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04-08-2012, 01:23 AM
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Trying to put the NHL season out of my mind, i think i would do something like: (considering final junior year before draft-to be fair)

Yakupov
Nugent-Hopkins
Grigerenko
Landeskog
Huberdeau
Larsson

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04-08-2012, 11:22 AM
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You dont rest a guy for 4 games down the stretch cause hes tired. Especially one that has only played 64 games, I dont care how old he is. He is sitting because he was playing badly.....

Yakupov over RNH imo. RNH was called the worst #1 in a long time.
What's your argument really? He has a great impact on his team as a 19 y.o. defenseman. Yeah, now he is rested and yeah, maybe he played badly for a stretch. So what?

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04-08-2012, 11:45 AM
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Since everyone has Grigorenko aead of Landeskog, I hope Montreal drafts Grigs and offers him + some other assets to Colorado. Can't wait to see them hang us the phone on our face.

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04-08-2012, 12:22 PM
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Yakupov
RNH
Landeskog
Grigorenko
Galchenyuk
Huberdeau
Dumba
Larsson
Couturier
Murray

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04-08-2012, 12:49 PM
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I'm trying to gauge how people view this year's draft crop compared to last year. If the 2011 and 2012 drafts were held at once, how would the top 15 come out? Would Yakupov be able to crack the incredibly strong top 4 from last year? How many of the projected top 5-6 (i.e. Yakupov, Grigerenko, Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Murray and Dumba) would make it into the 15, and where do you think they would go?

I would think it would look like:

1. RNH
2. Larsson
3. Yakupov
4. Landeskog
5. Huberdeau
6. Hamilton
7. Grigerenko
8. Couturier
9. Galchenyuk
10. Forsberg
11. Murray
12. Schiefle
13. Strome
14. Dumba
15. Faksa
Where is Mika Zibanejad, you know the top 5 rated prospect in the world by THN ahead of Halimton?

Or you gotta be playing in junior to be in this list?? I see Schiefle who looked very poor in the WJC and Strome who just isn't the same player as last year and actually regressed too.

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