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03-26-2012, 10:59 PM
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things really got heated in the championship game, love this rivalry!

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then later on the coaches get on the ice and have to be held back lol

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http://isport.ua/hockey/ukraine/news/195885.html

PHL looking to expand to 20 teams next year and will now be an international league with 1 team from each of Poland, Slovakia, Moldova, Belarus, and Russia

Of course, don't hold your breath. Money has a tendency to cause these things to fall apart over the summer.

Really cool to see Poland and Moldava get involved for the sake of growing the game.

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PHL looking to expand to 20 teams next year and will now be an international league with 1 team from each of Poland, Slovakia, Moldova, Belarus, and Russia

Of course, don't hold your breath. Money has a tendency to cause these things to fall apart over the summer.

Really cool to see Poland and Moldava get involved for the sake of growing the game.
I heard that they will change the name of the competition as well, now it it will be called FDL - Fool's Day League.

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PHL looking to expand to 20 teams next year and will now be an international league with 1 team from each of Poland, Slovakia, Moldova, Belarus, and Russia

Of course, don't hold your breath. Money has a tendency to cause these things to fall apart over the summer.

Really cool to see Poland and Moldava get involved for the sake of growing the game.
Is there hockey in Moldova? I've never even heard of them having a national team.

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Is there hockey in Moldova? I've never even heard of them having a national team.
Their U18 side (I dont know who was on the roster) won the U18 Romanian league and they were suppose to have a club in the Romanian league (roster was mostly Russians with one Moldovan player) but were kicked out. They dont even have a rink or league so you are right, they dont have a National team.

Edit: The U18 club had 5 players from Moldova and the rest were Russians with parental ties to Moldova.

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I heard that they will change the name of the competition as well, now it it will be called FDL - Fool's Day League.
I'm looking forward to the FDL!

First hint: 20 teams. Second hint: Moldova

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This is pretty awesome- I'm visiting Ukraine right now and I've been trying to get a feel for how popular hockey is around here. (mostly because I want to find a place to watch the playoffs...I'll be in Eastern Europe for all of it!). I met someone who plays goalie at a bar last night, and now I'm reading this. It's encouraging to see that hockey is alive in Ukraine!

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I thought it was a good joke.

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Read yesterday, that luxury tax funds last year were necessary to keep the team from Brovary going the distance last year so there's a good chance that there will be less teams in PHL next year.

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Read yesterday, that luxury tax funds last year were necessary to keep the team from Brovary going the distance last year so there's a good chance that there will be less teams in PHL next year.
Brovary was the second worst team in the league this year (after Vinnytsia), I think it might be addition by subtraction for the league. With that said it would be good to have another legitimate team (Sokil, Donbass and Berkut are the only ones). It would be nice to see Kharkiv invest in their hockey club, they started to develop a fairly decent hockey program a while back.

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Brovary was the second worst team in the league this year (after Vinnytsia), I think it might be addition by subtraction for the league. With that said it would be good to have another legitimate team (Sokil, Donbass and Berkut are the only ones). It would be nice to see Kharkiv invest in their hockey club, they started to develop a fairly decent hockey program a while back.
If we follow this logic of subtraction we can close the shop already. I've heard that first next year's addition might be Ukrainian U20 side, though this team might be created on the basis of Brovary or Vinnitsa so it doesn't particularly mean that there will be more teams next year. Though I'm sure there will be more teams next year that there were this season, because all in all first PHL season was a success.

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Brovary was the second worst team in the league this year (after Vinnytsia), I think it might be addition by subtraction for the league. With that said it would be good to have another legitimate team (Sokil, Donbass and Berkut are the only ones). It would be nice to see Kharkiv invest in their hockey club, they started to develop a fairly decent hockey program a while back.
One of our friend's son just moved to Russia because Kharkiv did not offer him a good enough training environment.


He's only 14 so he's obviously nowhere close to being as good as Zherdev or Babchuk etc, but one has to wonder whether if he ever got that good, which national team he would represent.

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One of our friend's son just moved to Russia because Kharkiv did not offer him a good enough training environment.


He's only 14 so he's obviously nowhere close to being as good as Zherdev or Babchuk etc, but one has to wonder whether if he ever got that good, which national team he would represent.
Where did this kid moved to? Belgorod, Yaroslavl or Voskresenk? My bets are in this order. That aside, if by 14 kid doesn't feel any attachment to his birth country, something is wrong with his upbringing.

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Where did this kid moved to? Belgorod, Yaroslavl or Voskresenk? My bets are in this order. That aside, if by 14 kid doesn't feel any attachment to his birth country, something is wrong with his upbringing.
He moved to Moscow

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http://hc.lviv.ua/newsukr/2764.htm

just noticed, but in preparations for Lviv's 2022 olympic bid, they want to build as part of the olympic park a 17,000 seat hockey arena (and a 7,000 seat arena)

really hope this goes through

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He moved to Moscow
it's only normal, if he's got talent - he's not going anywhere from Ukraine, not the way hockey is there today.

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just noticed, but in preparations for Lviv's 2022 olympic bid, they want to build as part of the olympic park a 17,000 seat hockey arena (and a 7,000 seat arena)

really hope this goes through
I can't imagine a day when Lviv will actually need such an monstrous arena for hockey game.

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I can't imagine a day when Lviv will actually need such an monstrous arena for hockey game.
I can, when Ukraine becomes better than Russia in hockey for the game

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I can't imagine a day when Lviv will actually need such an monstrous arena for hockey game.
In Soccer Ukraine has a trend of building new stadiums and seeing attendance sky rocket. Whether that happens in Hockey I don't know.

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In Soccer Ukraine has a trend of building new stadiums and seeing attendance sky rocket. Whether that happens in Hockey I don't know.
yeah true that...Russian league is such a garbage (soccer) everything is bought and sold behind the curtains.

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I can't imagine a day when Lviv will actually need such an monstrous arena for hockey game.
well i guess (obviously) it would be dual purpose for figure skating and other olympic events - and ideally double for basketball in the summer?

they can't bid without it, and having it would indeed be great (for the sake of even having an arena in the city, since the Lions have to play out in the sticks at the moment)

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yeah true that...Russian league is such a garbage (soccer) everything is bought and sold behind the curtains.
At least soccer in Russia is an attractive product, right?

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At least soccer in Russia is an attractive product, right?
Unfortunately most of their stadiums are crap. Only Lokomotiv has a decent new stadium on the metro line in Moscow. Khmiki is relatively nice, but it's such a pain in the ass to get to.

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Unfortunately most of their stadiums are crap. Only Lokomotiv has a decent new stadium on the metro line in Moscow. Khmiki is relatively nice, but it's such a pain in the ass to get to.
My previous post had a completely different meaning. In NA hockey is an industry which sellls everything around the game, Russia has gone one step further

Actually AFAIK from the tales of my father, such capitalism in Russian soccer existed already in Soviet times.

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oh yes, dogovornie igry was all over USSR...for political reasons very often.

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