HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

Kirill Kabanov

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
04-07-2012, 11:34 PM
  #51
pattyb91
Registered User
 
pattyb91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Merrick, NY
Posts: 1,493
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to pattyb91
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx View Post
Am I missing something or is this kid being severely overrated?

55 points in 50 games? Only 28 in 37 the year before? In the high scoring QMJHL?

The player taken one spot ahead of him, Max Reinhart, had 78 points in 61 games, had 79 points in 71 the year before, and had a hell of a playoff run.

I remember the criticisms people made against the Flames for refusing to take the risk with Kabanov.
Point totals don't tell you the whole story.

pattyb91 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-07-2012, 11:42 PM
  #52
Ashasx
Registered User
 
Ashasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,074
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by pattyb91 View Post
Point totals don't tell you the whole story.
Alright, but I could also say that Max plays on one of the lower scoring teams in the WHL and is one of the best two way players in the CHL.

What am I missing from him? Skill?

Ashasx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-08-2012, 03:57 PM
  #53
goldglove
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 760
vCash: 500
Since I am from shawinigan, i've watched a lot of Kabanov's games this year and all playoffs games so far and he is the best forward of the cats in the PO. He goes in the corners, strong with the puck , awsome hands. I've asked some questions about is off-ice character and he is doing everything the right way this season.

Shawinigan offence is spread on 3 lines that is why you see nobody in the top20 scoring race.

goldglove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-08-2012, 05:59 PM
  #54
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 12,920
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldglove View Post
Since I am from shawinigan, i've watched a lot of Kabanov's games this year and all playoffs games so far and he is the best forward of the cats in the PO. He goes in the corners, strong with the puck , awsome hands. I've asked some questions about is off-ice character and he is doing everything the right way this season.

Shawinigan offence is spread on 3 lines that is why you see nobody in the top20 scoring race.
I agree, I've watched Shawinigan when I can and when Kabanov has an off game it doesn't seem to be from a lack of effort, more that the team is based on balance and doesn't really let anyone take control.

He might not be the dominant force some predicted he would be but he's doing everything right at this point. Hopefully the Islanders let him make the NHL at his own pace, because he has really been dedicated to redeeming himself.

Et le But is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-08-2012, 08:17 PM
  #55
obie4life
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldglove View Post
Since I am from shawinigan, i've watched a lot of Kabanov's games this year and all playoffs games so far and he is the best forward of the cats in the PO. He goes in the corners, strong with the puck , awsome hands. I've asked some questions about is off-ice character and he is doing everything the right way this season.

Shawinigan offence is spread on 3 lines that is why you see nobody in the top20 scoring race.
I go to a lot of Shawinigan games too. They have tremendous depth on offense, so the ice time was spread up equally in season. At times, he was dominant on the ice, and at other games, he was tryin' to be too fancy with the puck. He is an incredible passer, but he doesn't use his shot enough. His strength and stick handling is impressive, but is IQ is only above average. He really need to take better decisions with the puck!

The coach Eric Veilleux, is a Dave Tippett kind of coach. He asks for a complete effort night in and night out, and he never blamed Kabanov publicly this season, so that's a good sign.

Now, in the playoffs, he's DOMINANT along with his linemates. He made some incredible plays this friday and his effort level was pretty good. He plays with Michael Chaput (CLB) and Anton Zlobin (not yet drafted).

My prediction...Michael Chaput will be an average 2nd line center or excellent 3rd in the NHL. He impresses me more than Kabanov! Strong on faceoffs, very good compete level, tape-to-tape passes, above average IQ.

I think Kabanov can be a very good 2nd line winger with the Islanders, but there prospect pool is strong (Strome, Niedereitter, oksposo, etc.) so my guess is he will end up on a 3rd line or in the KHL.

obie4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 10:57 AM
  #56
h22prelude93
Registered User
 
h22prelude93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: St.Louis, Mo
Country: United States
Posts: 1,397
vCash: 500
Lots of great info in here. Thanks a lot guys....please keep us updated. BTW he's heating up in the QMJHL PO's, 1 goal and 5 assists in his last 2 games for 3g 7a 10pt +7 in 6 gp.

h22prelude93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 01:00 PM
  #57
CH4
Registered User
 
CH4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicoutimi
Posts: 1,668
vCash: 500
Kabanov is playing great against us up to date.

his line is dangerous every shifts.

CH4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 01:31 PM
  #58
Parise9Crosby87
Registered User
 
Parise9Crosby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: boca raton florida
Country: United States
Posts: 2,193
vCash: 500
i think he was a real steal

Parise9Crosby87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 03:32 PM
  #59
StrongIslanders90
Registered User
 
StrongIslanders90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: StrongIsland
Posts: 6,649
vCash: 500
I have heard people say that with his past hype he should be tearing up Juniors with goals and points at 19...


But in interviews Kabby has said he concentrates on his defense more now and being a two way foward....

For those who watch him is this true?


Could he still be a top 6 winger skill wise in the NHL?

StrongIslanders90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 03:50 PM
  #60
Bjindaho
Registered User
 
Bjindaho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,698
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by StrongIslanders90 View Post
I have heard people say that with his past hype he should be tearing up Juniors with goals and points at 19...


But in interviews Kabby has said he concentrates on his defense more now and being a two way foward....

For those who watch him is this true?


Could he still be a top 6 winger skill wise in the NHL?
He's not in the CHL to work on his puck skills. He is there to work on his defense and to be a good boy. Other than refusing to report to Montreal, he's been good this year.

Also, keep in mind that while Shawinigan has a deep offense, they don't have a great top end (Zlobin/Chaput/Kabanov are their big guns offensively). His current line is the probably their best 3 players, but they like to mix up the lines (and create a 1A/1B/1C situation).

Bjindaho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 03:54 PM
  #61
StrongIslanders90
Registered User
 
StrongIslanders90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: StrongIsland
Posts: 6,649
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjindaho View Post
He's not in the CHL to work on his puck skills. He is there to work on his defense and to be a good boy. Other than refusing to report to Montreal, he's been good this year.

Also, keep in mind that while Shawinigan has a deep offense, they don't have a great top end (Zlobin/Chaput/Kabanov are their big guns offensively). His current line is the probably their best 3 players, but they like to mix up the lines (and create a 1A/1B/1C situation).
So I'm correct?

StrongIslanders90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 05:19 PM
  #62
seafoam
Oh It's Fading Fader
 
seafoam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Connecticut
Country: United States
Posts: 13,594
vCash: 291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjindaho View Post
He's not in the CHL to work on his puck skills. He is there to work on his defense and to be a good boy. Other than refusing to report to Montreal, he's been good this year.

Also, keep in mind that while Shawinigan has a deep offense, they don't have a great top end (Zlobin/Chaput/Kabanov are their big guns offensively). His current line is the probably their best 3 players, but they like to mix up the lines (and create a 1A/1B/1C situation).
Now that's a player I would like to see the Isles grab in the later rounds, I've heard some good stuff about him, have you seen him?

seafoam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 10:07 PM
  #63
pattyb91
Registered User
 
pattyb91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Merrick, NY
Posts: 1,493
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to pattyb91
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaStromey View Post
Now that's a player I would like to see the Isles grab in the later rounds, I've heard some good stuff about him, have you seen him?
The Isles were gonna have him at camp, but there was some visa issues. Kabanov is good friends with Zlobin, and he has been an advocate of him to Isles management. If he is still available later in the draft, I expect the Isles to grab him.

pattyb91 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 10:53 PM
  #64
obie4life
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaStromey View Post
Now that's a player I would like to see the Isles grab in the later rounds, I've heard some good stuff about him, have you seen him?
I have seen Zlobin played a lot the pas two seasons. It's very tough to say if he has any NHL potential. He is purely a finisher, his hockey sense and skating is only above
average. He really needs to ask some bulk because he can be pushed off the puck against big defensmen.

Since Kabanov came over in a trade, Zlobin has upped his intensity level a lot (has someone to talk to, etc.), but he still needs to improve in this area. The coach must bench him once in a while to get him going. But it's pretty tough for a russian kid to come in NA without talking french or english and stay motivated.

If he makes it in the NHL, he will score 30 goals or be a complete bust. He has the ability to put puck in the back of the net from anywhere on the ice, but too many times he is invisible.

obie4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-10-2012, 10:58 PM
  #65
obie4life
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjindaho View Post
He's not in the CHL to work on his puck skills. He is there to work on his defense and to be a good boy. Other than refusing to report to Montreal, he's been good this year.

Also, keep in mind that while Shawinigan has a deep offense, they don't have a great top end (Zlobin/Chaput/Kabanov are their big guns offensively). His current line is the probably their best 3 players, but they like to mix up the lines (and create a 1A/1B/1C situation).
Chaput and Kabanov have great chemistry since they were in Lewiston last season. Their skillset mesh very well together and I think the Islanders should try to get Chaput (big center, the best on faceoffs, great energy, etc.). They seem to have a lot of fun on the ice and that's a good sign!

obie4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-11-2012, 07:53 AM
  #66
seafoam
Oh It's Fading Fader
 
seafoam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Connecticut
Country: United States
Posts: 13,594
vCash: 291
Quote:
Originally Posted by obie4life View Post
I have seen Zlobin played a lot the pas two seasons. It's very tough to say if he has any NHL potential. He is purely a finisher, his hockey sense and skating is only above
average. He really needs to ask some bulk because he can be pushed off the puck against big defensmen.

Since Kabanov came over in a trade, Zlobin has upped his intensity level a lot (has someone to talk to, etc.), but he still needs to improve in this area. The coach must bench him once in a while to get him going. But it's pretty tough for a russian kid to come in NA without talking french or english and stay motivated.

If he makes it in the NHL, he will score 30 goals or be a complete bust. He has the ability to put puck in the back of the net from anywhere on the ice, but too many times he is invisible.
Thanks for the info! Any comparisons to Zlobin? It seem's like his overall 'game' is comparable to current Isle Matt Moulson.

seafoam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-11-2012, 06:20 PM
  #67
h22prelude93
Registered User
 
h22prelude93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: St.Louis, Mo
Country: United States
Posts: 1,397
vCash: 500
Well looks like Kabanov will be playing in Russia next season. Apparently he's signed with Salavat Yulaev of the KHL.

h22prelude93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-11-2012, 06:23 PM
  #68
StrongIslanders90
Registered User
 
StrongIslanders90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: StrongIsland
Posts: 6,649
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by h22prelude93 View Post
Well looks like Kabanov will be playing in Russia next season. Apparently he's signed with Salavat Yulaev of the KHL.
WHAT?? Thats messed up...He has an ELC with NYI and even said he does not want to go back to russia, is this official?.....He could of atleast went to camp and seen if he made the team....I think he just wants to be handed an NHL spot, imo being in the AHL would be good for him....

StrongIslanders90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-11-2012, 06:25 PM
  #69
JeromeHP
@Jerome_Berube
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,544
vCash: 500
Kabanov has denied the rumor today.

JeromeHP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-11-2012, 06:26 PM
  #70
pattyb91
Registered User
 
pattyb91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Merrick, NY
Posts: 1,493
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to pattyb91
Quote:
Originally Posted by h22prelude93 View Post
Well looks like Kabanov will be playing in Russia next season. Apparently he's signed with Salavat Yulaev of the KHL.
Nope, the Shawinigan beat writer said Kirill denied the rumor. It isn't true.

pattyb91 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-11-2012, 06:39 PM
  #71
Isles Junkie
Moderator
 
Isles Junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 7,118
vCash: 500
Very happy the rumor turned out to be false

Isles Junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-11-2012, 07:00 PM
  #72
PWJunior
Moderator
Proud Watertownian
 
PWJunior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Watertown, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 7,181
vCash: 500
The KHL rumor couldn't be true considering all the factors. It really would have been a major WTF? moment.

PWJunior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-15-2012, 07:56 PM
  #73
h22prelude93
Registered User
 
h22prelude93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: St.Louis, Mo
Country: United States
Posts: 1,397
vCash: 500
Good to hear. So many bunk rumors floating around...really glad this one isn't true. I also think it's cool that Kabanov(despite being labeled a wild child early on)is doing things the right way. Not too many young Russians will bite the bullet and play in the AHL nowadays. Not sure exactly why that is, but I'm sure glad he chose a different path.

h22prelude93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-16-2012, 10:16 AM
  #74
WildcatMapleLeafs28
Registered User
 
WildcatMapleLeafs28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Atlantic Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,485
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by h22prelude93 View Post
Okay so he's expected to play in the AHL next season, and maybe make the NHL in the next few. Makes sense. It doesn't seem there's much room for him on RW with Parenteau, Okposo, and Grabner. And I couldn't see him being used as a 4th liner. Also, just noticed Niederreiter has one goal and zero assists in 54 games and is -29. Ouch! Is he considered some what of a bust or was he perhaps rushed into the NHL?
Hes been obviously rushed too quickly.. Cant call a 19year old a bust

WildcatMapleLeafs28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-16-2012, 10:21 AM
  #75
WildcatMapleLeafs28
Registered User
 
WildcatMapleLeafs28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Atlantic Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,485
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by pattyb91 View Post
Nope, the Shawinigan beat writer said Kirill denied the rumor. It isn't true.
He wants to play in the NHL but if he dosnt make the jump in the next couple of seasons, i could see him giving up and returning to Russia. I watched him many times this season and I think hes mentaly matured alot. Its not all about him anymore and he takes Eric Veilleux (Shawinigans head coach) very serious. Kabanov gets his message and its helped him pick up his play as well ..

WildcatMapleLeafs28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.