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A strong PHX team in the playoffs may bring a new owner.
Absolutely. I could see many successful businessmen say "Wow, that second round series was pretty entertaining. I would gladly lose $25 million a year so they could do that again in Phoenix one day"
2009-2010 season 107 points. 3rd best point total in the West, but given 4th seed due to weird playoff structure.
2010-2011 season 99 points. 6th best point total in the West and 6th seed
2011-2012 season Currently 95 points with 1 game left in the season; max possible 97 points for the season. Currently 6th best point total in the West, but currently 3rd seed due to weird playoff structure. Note: If Phoenix loses to Minnesota tonight, the winner of the Los Angeles vs San Jose game takes 3rd seed, and Pheonix drops to 7th best points and 7th seed.
The only reason Phoenix is in the running for their division championship (and 3rd seed) is because San Jose has dropped off considerably from their performance the previous 2 seasons.
Edit: Update... the Coyotes did win their final season game. They end up with 97 points, and the division title. This gives them 3rd seed, notwithstanding that they have the 6th best record in the West. So their worst record of the past 3 seasons results in their best seeding of the past 3 seasons.
Last edited by knorthern knight: 04-08-2012 at 09:09 PM.
Reason: Update with results of final season game.
The problem is that during that period, Quebec was pulling attendence numbers within 1000 of the league average. And no the tickets weren't cheap. I remember paying 30 bucks 20 years ago for a noosebleed ticket. When you take inflation and the value of the dollar, comes to about 50 of today's US dollars.
At the time Things were rough in Quebec, uneployement rates were high. Still the team sold for 90M$, 7 years after Moslon resold the team after buying out Carling O'Keefe for 15 millions. And Gary took an additional 15M$ pound of flesh.
Yeah comparing Quebec at the start of the 90s and today's Quebec is like comparing today's Detroit and 90s Detroit. The city has changed a lot and the province too, I'm pretty that within 2 years of a Nordiques team it will rank in the top 10 of NHL markets, the only reason Winnipeg won't is because of their tiny Arena.
2009-2010 season 107 points. 3rd best point total in the West, but given 4th seed due to weird playoff structure.
2010-2011 season 99 points. 6th best point total in the West and 6th seed
2011-2012 season Currently 95 points with 1 game left in the season; max possible 97 points for the season. Currently 6th best point total in the West, but currently 3rd seed due to weird playoff structure. Note: If Phoenix loses to Minnesota tonight, the winner of the Los Angeles vs San Jose game takes 3rd seed, and Pheonix drops to 7th best points and 7th seed.
The only reason Phoenix is in the running for their division championship (and 3rd seed) is because San Jose has dropped off considerably from their performance the previous 2 seasons.
But they never went past the 1st round. If they go to the Conference final, it will be a whole different story than those past years.
My point is that until now Arizona didn't have anything so that they would care about the Coyotes, if they get finally get something to make the evening news things could change.
This is clearly the best Coyotes team in the past 3 years. Smith has been consistently excellent in goal. Bryz was a sieve in the playoffs last year. We have 4 lines rolling which hasn't been there before. Vrbata and Whitney are having a career year.
Yeah comparing Quebec at the start of the 90s and today's Quebec is like comparing today's Detroit and 90s Detroit. The city has changed a lot and the province too, I'm pretty that within 2 years of a Nordiques team it will rank in the top 10 of NHL markets, the only reason Winnipeg won't is because of their tiny Arena.
I really wouldn't use detroit as a good example. I've been there 3 times in recent months. Its not a pleasant site
This is clearly the best Coyotes team in the past 3 years. Smith has been consistently excellent in goal. Bryz was a sieve in the playoffs last year. We have 4 lines rolling which hasn't been there before. Vrbata and Whitney are having a career year.
A strong Coyotes playoff run will do little for keeping the team in Phoenix. It's all about making money and even a deep playoff won't counter the losses. Winning doesn't cure all in a market that doesn't work and you can't even assume playoffs are a given every year - which results in even bigger losses.
All a deep playoff run does is make the team more attractive to someone who wants to relocate the team.
A good playoffs run for the Coyotes in front of 8000 10000 fans (how many will actually pay thier tickets?) is a disaster for anybody who wants them to stay there.
Their awesome season brought total indifference in PHX.
Anyway, you can't work such a deal in a couple days. Serious people would already have bought the club.
Quebec wasn't at all pleasant at this period of time, maybe Baltimore is a better example but replace gang wars with biker wars.
I was trying to be nice when I said not pleasant. Its the ugliest city in North America. 25% of the city doesn't have street lights because they can't afford the light bill. Its going to suck for a long time there.
I was trying to be nice when I said not pleasant. Its the ugliest city in North America. 25% of the city doesn't have street lights because they can't afford the light bill. Its going to suck for a long time there.
If you are going to bash a city, cite your sources or keep your mouth shut, please.
The situation in Detroit is simple, in the past half of century the state and city decided to expand the suburbs of the city in investing billions of $ in real-estate at rates so that lower income families could buy. But with the growing criminality in the past 30 years, the real-estate bubble that collapsed and the thousands of jobs that were lost most of those suburbs died and became a haven for squatters, criminals and eventually decayed. From 2000 to 2010 the population decreased by 200 000. It's only now that the city is recovering, mainly in it's inner core, but those suburbs will stay there until they are razed and rebuilt.
Comparing Quebec in the 80s to Detroit today is really not a good example but Quebec was suffering a lot from poverty and criminal activities, it was blue collar town that had little or no tourism money apart from the winter carnival a situation that has drastically changed in the past 15 years.
If you are going to bash a city, cite your sources or keep your mouth shut, please.
There was a New York Times article that 25% of the city is dark. Same is true for some of the immediate suburbs. I personally met with the economic development director of Highland Park where DTE took the light polls from all the side streets and only the main street has lights.
I think Detroit looks much, much better now than it did 20 years ago. Then, I kept my windows rolled up and prayed that my car wouldn't break down. Now there are still rough spots, but nothing like it was then.
How did Detroit get dragged into this discussion anyway?
I thought that the team was gone 2 years ago to Hamilton. Wait, I think it was that I thought that the team was gone last year to Bryzgaloville. Now this year, QC is all the rage. Next year it will be Saskatoon. During the Saskatoon year I expect a new local owner to take the Coyotes and revitalize the fan base.
This is clearly the best Coyotes team in the past 3 years. Smith has been consistently excellent in goal. Bryz was a sieve in the playoffs last year. We have 4 lines rolling which hasn't been there before. Vrbata and Whitney are having a career year.
As I pointed out earlier, this season is the lowest point total in the last 3, notwithstanding Smith in goal. Actually, if Calgary had scored 3 additional goals at the right time, they would be in the playoffs, and Phoenix would be out. It was that close, even over 82 games.
Phoenix will have problems making a deep run. The wierd playoff seeding gives them home advantage versus Chicago, instead of Nashville having home advantage versus Phoenix. In the season series versus Chicago, Phoenix had 2 regulation wins, 1 regulation loss, and a shootout win. Phoenix looks to be the favourite in this round, but round 2 could be different.
If you say so.
